DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

given Cable is far more economically literate than Gosbourne there could be massive tensions there.

can't believe gideon osborne is actually chancellor of the fucking exchequer. incredible.

Osborne's first job was to provide data entry services to the National Health Service to record the names of people who had died in London.[8] He also briefly worked for Selfridges. He originally intended to pursue a career as a journalist, but after failing to become one at a national newspaper, was informed of a vacant job at the Conservative Central Office.[8]

Tory bloggers already going in on Cable as their #1 bogeyman for the next five years.

They'd still be less powerful than Cameron and Clegg, TV debates or no TV debates.

Don't think we're gonna get debates next time anyway, given two out of three parties seem to have decided they were A Bad Idea.

Just wondering if this means a flatshare at No 10? Couldn't give a toss about any of the other details in this ugly union tbh.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/5/12/1273654747693/David-Cameron-Nick-Clegg--001.jpg

so used to seeing no 10 waving pic of husband and wife that it looks like clegg and cameron just announced their civil partnership

nothing civil about it imo

hatesex as legislative process, should be interesting

Considering emigration, cd you put us up until I can get a cushy job as a builder?

What's depressing me at the moment is that the LDs actually proposed NOT ringfencing the NHS from cuts.

Why? I'm not one to stan for public sector cuts but if there are savings to be made in the NHS *without affecting quality patient care, staff well-being, etc.* why shouldn't they be made? Should we cut an efficient and useful branch in another department while ignoring a wasteful/useless branch in the NHS because the NHS is somehow untouchable?

(sounding like Vince Cable now. Hope NV's got some bleach left)

nah man I agree the NHS needs to be a bit less sacred cow

I'm not just talking about election debates, more that the way politics tends to get talked about and presented is binary. The LDs have struggled against this mightily with a bit of success - sometimes winning a place at the table in a panel discussion on the radio, for instance. But now that they're part of the ruling party even this half-hearted attempt at equal representation in the media will be out the window. Or at least up in the air. Hung out to dry?

this five years shit is so the conservatives can avoid the vestigial remains of the lib dems kinda like that american woman driving home with a critically injured vagrant on her caved-in windscreen

Should we cut an efficient and useful branch in another department while ignoring a wasteful/useless branch in the NHS because the NHS is somehow untouchable?

YES MY ARGUMENT IS OBVIOUSLY YES, WE SHOULD CUT EFFICIENT AND USEFUL THINGS WHILE KEEPING WASTEFUL ONES WELL DONE

No, the reason I'm depressed about NHS cuts is that I don't trust the Tories to do them.

Why? I'm not one to stan for public sector cuts but if there are savings to be made in the NHS *without affecting quality patient care, staff well-being, etc.* why shouldn't they be made? Should we cut an efficient and useful branch in another department while ignoring a wasteful/useless branch in the NHS because the NHS is somehow untouchable?

Any money that's being saved should be reinvested in the health service IMO.

saving money and improving services can be done
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/28/doctors-nhs-cuts-guardian-letter

george osborne's approach to the nhs will be informed by his childhood vivisection experiments w/ rabbits and voles

New Labour leader is going to have to get used to being the third most important party leader in the country. That'll be chastening.

Heseltine was talking about the deputy PM role last night and called it an 'all or nothing' job iirc - suggestion seemed to be that his position there was 'all' and Clegg's... wouldn't be

xp. swans and peasants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t16PTMOnLEc&feature=player_embedded#!

Funny

Considering emigration, cd you put us up until I can get a cushy job as a builder?

― Coalition (Remix) (Noodle Vague), 12 May 2010 09:50 (25 minutes ago)

jeez we really having been paying any attention to the Irish Politics thread, have we kids? a darraghmac will be starting an emigration nominations thread as of gf's graduation next year iirc

cable 'delighted'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8677174.stm

these two men look the same

So with two Eton boys in No.10, is Clegg basically Cameron's fag now?

YES MY ARGUMENT IS OBVIOUSLY YES, WE SHOULD CUT EFFICIENT AND USEFUL THINGS WHILE KEEPING WASTEFUL ONES WELL DONE

This is live on an international message board. Dignity. Dignity.

That's actually never going to get old.

clegg is a westminster boy.

terrible, terrible people

jokes bruv

ken clarke is justice minister. oof.

i keep forgetting the home office is split now. theresa may just in charge of keeping immigrants out then?

I for one am utterly shocked that the Liberals turned out to be Liberals to the core.

Liam Fox defence, Theresa May home sec. Awful, awful, awful. It's not going to go away. It's like 2004 when I thought everyone would see that we'd been conned and the Bush victory was illegitimate. You can't get rid of these bastards.

She's an idiot, based on not being able to win an argument with *me* at a youth in politics function - and if she's the only woman in Cabinet it will tell you all you need to know about her (Tory women suffer from Queen Bee syndrome ie. 'I'm the only bitch in this room, the rest just make the coffee').

Primary and secondary education should be more of a sacred cow than the NHS imo. And they would be if more voters didn't pay for private schools than private hospitals.

theresa fucking may

Let's 'shop today's Telegraph headline, shall we?

http://www.thedrum.co.uk/pub/files/photos/news/13785/master.telegraph1.jpg

theresa fucking may

Oh don't worry, Dave says they have a commitment to decentralising power and protecting civil liberties, though secretly I fear that this will mean no CCTV on our slop buckets rather than no more Ian Tomlinsons.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01042/Cam6280_1042165a.jpg

Yes he Cam ... our celebration image

Nice double-chinny pic there, Sun.

Primary and secondary education should be more of a sacred cow than the NHS imo. And they would be if more voters didn't pay for private schools than private hospitals.

― snakebite and a passable pinot noir (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 11:55 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

they have pledged to preserve funding for schools. you're out of luck if you're studying at an fe college or university though.

http://www.daleklinks.co.uk/media/66500/ironside-poster.jpg

lib dems will contest thirsk and malton against the tories, should make for an awkward campaign.

This is Northern. Could Labour win it through the motivating factor of RAGE?

you're out of luck if you're studying working at an fe college or university though

Apparently Mrs V overheard our kids plotting emigration this morning, no lie. Might as well given imminent decimation of employment

Not that kind of North. This is basically Vale of York and Ryedale in a new constituency - 20-25pt Con majs.

xp

(xposts) In '05 Tories had over 50% to Lab at 20% and Lib at 18%, so unlikely, but some RAGE would be nice.

(Do Lib Dems like Tories more or less in very Tory constituencies? Perhaps I should know this since I voted Lib Dem in one in '05.)

Big Tory vote from the baboons at Flamingoland.

Apparently Mrs V overheard our kids plotting emigration this morning, no lie. Might as well given imminent decimation of employment

Oh no, and I only just got a job about 10 mins from Bondi...

here's a consolation: at least james delingpole is unhappy.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100039479/10-reasons-to-be-cheerful-about-daves-new-coalition-of-the-unwilling/

I bet the flamingoes aren't too keen on all those baboons coming in and taking their jobs. xps