Longtime ILXors - how has this board changed over time?

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Dee you know I love you, but you take things WAY too personally. There's really no reason why anything in this thread (or anything in the whole of ILX) should depress you.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 1 August 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, oops. I just feel like so many people around here don't really consider you of substance unless you're a superstud knowledge-wise and I don't really have anything to offer in that area, unless you're curious about San Antonio, in which case you could just look up one of the posts I've already made about my hometown, end of story. (Oh, and um, Those Guys You're Probably Already Sick And Tired Of Hearing About, even though I'm really a disillusioned fan of theirs.) Also, various events throughout the day and tonight have dredged up some things I guess I should've just compartmentalized and kept far away from this forum.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 1 August 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'll just be going now before I contribute more ammo to the haters....)

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 1 August 2004 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

hey Dee, it's not true, I have like zero indepth knowledge on anything but I think I get on okay here. You write thoughtful posts and come across as an interesting person, so don't stop let threads like this get you down :) We've been navel-gaving since day one, so the truth is ILX hasn't changed that much at all.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I just feel like so many people around here don't really consider you of substance unless you're a superstud knowledge-wise

This is true, but it's (a nearly inevitable) consequence of the mode of interaction a message board allows. One's intelligence and one's humor are basically the only traits that are able to conveyed and, therefore, appreciated. (but even on those two qualities, you're selling yourself short)

oops (Oops), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Charm and personality are imagined around here, not ever established. Until you meet the person, that is, which is why FAPS are so important. Which is why i say, yuo need to come to at least one Chicago FAP, oops, you ass.

Kenan (kenan), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

That'd ruin my mystique and shit.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh huh.

Are you aware of the fact that whenever somone says "Chicago FAP!" there's this eternal protracted debate as to when and where and why and how? If you said "Chicago FAP!" tonight, we'd all pretty much bend to your will, short of driving to whatever backwater you live in.

Kenan (kenan), Sunday, 1 August 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I just feel like so many people around here don't really consider you of substance unless you're a superstud knowledge-wise

With ILM, you can search the archives for seemingly every band you can think of and come up with several threads devoted to them. So, the bands that almost everybody knows have already been C/D & S/D'ed to death, thus, most of the new threads are related to more obscure bands in sub-sub-genres and relatively few people are able to participate.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 1 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The bad thing, about ilx, is that Alba has never really liked me.

the bellefox, Sunday, 1 August 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

dee i luv u, you my ilx boo, but you get a bit nate patrin sometimes (and OBV. i luv nate!)(ie. drop the agita already girl)

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 1 August 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread has moved on quite a bit since I last posted.

I think alba's post on actually doing commentary on every thread is maybe the craziest (and I mean this in a good way) meta post ever!

Its been 2-4 years posting for some, and that is a very long time.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't post super-frequently, but I've been on the boards since (I think) late 2000. Generally speaking, a lot of threads lately come across to me as "who can make the wittiest, best-timed, most pithy remark?" contests. I LOVED (and still revisit) the long-post discussions -- for a while, I would be exposed to five or six ideas in a single day that truly made me re-examine my attitudes toward music. I don't have time to post as much as I'd like to, but I feel way more out-of-the-loop and not-a-part-of-things than I used to. Weirdly, ILX felt *more* like an online community to me when it was more focused on music and issues and stuff. Not that frivolous and humorous stuff has no place on here (who am I to say that after all?), but nowadays ILX *asserts* its sense of community so often and in so many ways (knowing all the minutae of each other's daily lives, threads consisting entirely of in-jokes and flippancy, etc.) that it makes me feel like the community consists of nothing but us being familiar with one another. It's been a while since I've really been floored by a thread, when I've felt really compelled to really dig into a discussion and think things through, and while I'm sure that says something about me and where I am in my life right now, I can't help but wonder if it says something about the boards, too.

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Sunday, 1 August 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

This is true, but it's (a nearly inevitable) consequence of the mode of interaction a message board allows. One's intelligence and one's humor are basically the only traits that are able to conveyed and, therefore, appreciated. (but even on those two qualities, you're selling yourself short)

I don't find this quite true, at least not for myself. My favourite threads are often the ones where people discuss everyday or personal matters instead of "intellectual" ones, and I'm most impressed by the everyday wisdom and genuine empathy people here show. I you could call that a form "intelligence" too, but you don't need to write lengthy essays for answers to prove it (not that I have anything particular against essays). I liked the thread about male-female violence, for example, because people discussed a subject familiar to most of us in an deep, but not necessarily "intellectual" or "academic" way. I also like the odd trivia threads, like "Weird Animals", because it's nice to notice how so many folks besides me can get fascinated by such peculiar subjects.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 2 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

But then again, I'm nu-ILX, so it's only natural for me to like these things, right? ;)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 2 August 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The big thing I've noticed over the years is the big sense of community that characterised old ILX (by which I mean up to about a year ago) kind of dissipating. Partly this is due to people like Mark S and Tom leaving (although almost ALL the 'gone' ilxers are still in close orbit around the place, through FT in particular).

Mostly though its because there are just SO MANY PEOPLE these days, its impossible to keep track of everyone, especially as there are more and more changing psuedonyms and email addresses. The time difference makes a bigger impact than it used to be - UK ilx and US ilx are now light years apart in terms of subject matter, tone etc, and with the exception of long time posters like Ned and Dan, the two camps barely seem to talk to one another at all.

Also, the link to FreakyTrigger and the culture surrounding it is virtually non-existant these days.

It goes in waves though - the boards have been poor recently but there was a period from about February to April this year when the whole place seemed pretty cool again.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ILX seems almost a bit too diverse now, in a weird way. It seems to have lost a great deal of its identity in the process. There was a point at which the board seemed more cohesive, like it had some unstated mission.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Most of the people who have gone off do so for career things anyway, so I can't fault 'em even though I do miss them.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, believe it or not, I've been following ILx since 2001 but it is only in the last couple of months that I've felt entirely au fait with ILX. Perhaps it is because of the leaving of some of the old-schoolers giving others a chance to catchup with the in-jokes and terminology.
It is only until very recently that I've stopped feeling like an intruder in some kind of clique. I'm not saying that the original community was a bad thing, far from it, but ILE used to be utterly impenetrable for a long time - every post I wrote, whether I thought it was witty or interesting, was guaranteed to sink like a stone - often dragging the thread down with it. This in turn made me feel rather unworthy.
So yes, there is new blood here, as well as older posters who seem to have resurged and come to the fore, among them - PinXor, Ken C, Tuomas, Roxymuzak, Colette (i don't know if she is nu or olde ilx tbh), latebloomer, Gregory Henry, Wooden and many many many others- all of whom are sticking their oars in and providing some thoroughly great stuff to read. Even the Noise Dudes, irritating as they can be, do give the place a lot of character and have made me laugh out loud countless times.
The speed and length of posts can be hard to keep up with, admittedly but then I've found myself glossing over longer posts as I have to keep my ilxing covert whilst at work, and when I'm not working I'm usually too drunk to read huge essays. That is not to say that I'm against long posts - I especially enjoyed the responses to the Football Flags thread I started back in May or June.
Anyway, that's what I think - as you were!

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Baran once said it had always been rubbish, and I thought he had a point.

the bellefox, Monday, 2 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

the internet is rubbish.

the end.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

why not just say modern life is rubbish?

ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Abbey Road

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

heh, when I wrote "the end" i accidentally typed "the ned".

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

In the Ned, it doesn't even matter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Got Yer! Well it looks like we might have made it To The End but instead we need a Great Escape. Can't Explain why we can't Come Together. At least ILX doesn't have Adverts. Oooh, is that the door? Shit it's the Debt Collector.... stop me now please...

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

ME TO THREAD

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 2 August 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah the links to freaky trigger are practically nonexistent now which is a real shame; now ilm's closer to being a pfork discussion board than a ft one except the pfork guys who were ilxors aren't even around really anymore so it's like the worst of both worlds. sense of community not nearly what it was either as noted above - i can't recall the last huge fap thread, and i remember their being at least one of those a month and those were always fun - pics, gossip, good times (remember the arm wrestling tournament?)(and the lobster race?)(and of course the naked lemonade sale - can't forget that!). where have all the flower's gone?

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

dog latin - OTM upthread, w/

Well, believe it or not, I've been following ILx since 2001 but it is only in the last couple of months that I've felt entirely au fait with ILX. Perhaps it is because of the leaving of some of the old-schoolers giving others a chance to catchup with the in-jokes and terminology.
It is only until very recently that I've stopped feeling like an intruder in some kind of clique. I'm not saying that the original community was a bad thing, far from it, but ILE used to be utterly impenetrable for a long time - every post I wrote, whether I thought it was witty or interesting, was guaranteed to sink like a stone - often dragging the thread down with it. This in turn made me feel rather unworthy.

and I want to second every sentiment in there.

x j e r e m y i n f l u x (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't recall the last huge fap thread

Eh? There have been two huge London-based ones in the past week, with plenty of pictures galore, as well as the (comparatively smaller) LA one! Give us some credit! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah and the big NYC one from some months back, also.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't find this quite true, at least not for myself.

You're right, it's not completely true. I should've said that other traits are harder to convey and pick up on, not impossible.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

haha ned, maybe it's just that since [pick yr foxy nycilxorchick] stopped posting (as much) i don't bother to pay nearly as much attention to the fap recaps

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

that previous post could be referring to at least eight different women

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

and yancey

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

'yeah the links to freaky trigger are practically nonexistent'

no its still strong, during the break a few ppl off ilx have started contributing to it, and most of the ppl that post comments also post here.

London ilx has had a shift from FAPs to events in the last six months, threads on these are full of anticipation and talk post-event.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, just i remember once a while back someone (probably snrub, god bless 'im) on ilm asking 'what's freaky trigger?' and thinking 'how the hell could someone be on ilm and not know freaky trigger?', it's like finding out someone's subscribed to playboy for twenty years but is unfamiliar with the concept of tits, whereas now it's far too imaginable that someone on ilm would be unfamiliar with freaky trigger.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i probably off here but maaaybe once people found out about ilm thru freaky trigger and now they find out about freaky trigger thru ilm?

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I started posting to post on ilm in mid-to-late 2001 and found it through google so for me it was ilm --> freaky trigger, which i found out about through one of the 'article response' threads.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

but yeah, I think what you're describing goes a while back.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

posit: the advent of noize was the single most important event in ilx history

(♥_♥) (roxymuzak), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:40 (sixteen years ago)

there's thruth in that. for a start the brits had to get more american, or they had to die

dyao know what i mean (acoleuthic), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

image posting used to be somewhat frowned upon in general, iirc. it's strange now to imagine how different and, for some, grating the noize aesthetic was around here in 2004.

(♥_♥) (roxymuzak), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

there's thruth in that.

I gotta give lols where there are due here

Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

also, not being "nice" xpost

haha did not catch u lj

(♥_♥) (roxymuzak), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

haha whereas nowadays what killed noize board was the rest of ilx becoming too much like it! or at least, like some sort of amalgamation of its zing-happy brevity with the cosy bro-ness of pre-noize ilx. i can imagine how it came across as highly impolite at first! sometimes it still is. i'd love to see the usual ilx register applied to a british messageboard about, say, cricket. oh wait, i have done. permabanned. XD

dyao know what i mean (acoleuthic), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:48 (sixteen years ago)

btw ilx is MUCH friendlier than it was in 2006 - the snark level, be it thru SB or w/e, has dropped dramatically, and people are far quicker to give each other a break, mostly because if there's a problem it's dealt with rapidly, and the proliferation of poster numbers has made it easier to avoid trouble. maybe also quite a lot of established posters beyond the o.g. canon have become real bros IRL, which wasn't so much the case in days of yore?

dyao know what i mean (acoleuthic), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

I've never known what to make of the noize board, assuming it was just about noize bands. Is that how/why it started? What's the history?

(I guess I'm somewhat longtime... been kicking around since 2002.)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 December 2009 02:55 (sixteen years ago)

JF, you do realize that hstencil, msp, jack cole, gygax! and dead dead bird were early noize board denizens.

quiet and secretively we will always be together (Steve Shasta), Monday, 21 December 2009 03:08 (sixteen years ago)


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