UK Digibox: Classic or Dud

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I might still get one!

the bellefox, Monday, 2 January 2006 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Freeview laptop - Does it have a red button, or is ti the Alt+Shift+9 or something?

Yesterday I pressed the red button hoping for all the goalmouth action, but all I got was a load of souped-up Ceefax reports.

PF, go on, take the plunge.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Red button: very good around FA Cup weekend cos you get all the goals from all the ties running on a loop in alphabetical order.

I am intrigued to see which way you go on Saturday afternoons, PJM - to BBCi's Score Interactive with Stubbsy or Sky Sports News with Stelling(sy). Or out, to the shops.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 09:31 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a tough choice. I feel like a Roman emporer, having people watch stuff for me. It's very exciting when someone nearly scores while the cameras are on their watcher. Thing is, I have to be up really close to see the scores on the real time videprinter. I think I prefer Stubbsy, but one can tire of their colour scheme.

Incidentally, I think they must have those laptop gadgets. Or is that just my imagination getting the better of me?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Surely the presence of Crooksy must make the difference, unless Clive Allen also enters the equation somehow?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, Stelling wins every time. I don't know why, except that he is a God amongst pundits, and also you get to laugh at Chris Kamara freezing his arse off in the rafters of a stadium somewhere wondering if he'll ever get to join Le Tiss, Marsh etc in the studio.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

How much electricity does a digibox use?

I ask because I am having difficulty training my family to switch it off when they switch the telly off and I need to get just the right level of psycho dad-ness.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 09:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Quite a lot, I read. There – is that enough detail?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=315617&page=2&pp=25 is only slightly elucidating on the topic.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank you, Alba. This particular point had never occurred to my BRANE:

One piece of information that has been mentioned which is true is that there is little difference in power consumption etc between the on and standby modes of a Sky box. All standby does is switch off the video output, the box is otherwise completely functional.

Is a Sky box the same as a Freeview box, only with different channels?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, there's no moving parts inside the box so I'd presume that power consumption is pretty much the same whether it's on or off.

But then I'm the sort of person who's convinced that all this talk of the oncoming "energy crisis" could be solved by everyone switching off their computers when they leave work at night.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Which is why I switch off my computer when I leave work at night. I try to get everyone sle to do the same thing, but I get no joy whatsoever.

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Sky are launching their High Definition TV service later in the year. For HDTVs carrying Sky digital, will this mean that the picture will no longer look so bad (in terms of compression noise, particularly noticeable around footballers when viewed from afar)?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

And the power consumptiopn of HDTVs is sky high, I believe...

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i think that depends Steve. if they bump up the resolution but don't bump up the bandwidth sufficiently then it'll look just as bad, possibly even worse.

(the tivo has real problems with grass, smoke, fire, tv static and especially water on lower qualities)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

it would certainly be ridiculous to trump up HDTV like that without boosting the bandwidth/decreasing the compression level.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, there's no moving parts inside the box

There's the Little People inside mine.

I switch my computer off at night and I have recently started going round switching off lights.

Do I really have to wait until March for a choice of two football matches?

grass, smoke, fire, tv static and especially water

I wish to make a poor quality joke out of this.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Where's Ed when you need him? Is HDTV H.264 or is it MPEG-4? I can't help thinking the broadcast picture quality will be miles short of HDTV's potential.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

computer says mpeg-2

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1573979,00.asp

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

that said, cable companies who do both the encoding before transmission and the decoding before display are pretty much free to use what they want as long as it comes out of their decoder box looking like something the tv is expecting.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I do so enjoy the Fred Dibnah Channel.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I turn off everything at the plug, including the toaster and the kettle.

Not the fridge.

I can't believe some people don't even turn their computers off.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I usually leave my computer asleep (=Mac word for "on standby") rather than turn it off, pf, cause then I don't have to wait for it to boot up when I want to use it again.

I read years ago that modern computers have very low power consumption, so don't feel too guilty about leaving it on. Is that correct?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to always leave my stereo's amplifier on, cause it was supposed to make it sound better and maybe last longer too. Then I gave up caring.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

mine is a laptop, so it's not really using power.

i fear that if i switch off my tv or vcr at the mains, they will forget all their presets. is that insane?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Well - another old story is that it takes more energy to turn things on and off than to leave them on. That could yet be true, too. What do I know?

If that is not true, though, then I think Alba is being rather impatient. Surely you can switch it on and use it a minute later, and save power, rather than leave it on the whole time. But again, what do I know? When I try to put my computer on standby it basically shuts down - it returns to life frozen and unusable, and must be, I think, Reset.

Why a laptop computer is not using power, I don't know. But again - what do I know?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I would like to return to the glory days of switching everything off at the plug. Often I cannot reach comfortably nowadays. I hope MARK OATEN will sort this out for me.

I have erased Community TV and Teachers TV and Bloomberg. Perhaps I am becoming reckless. I am tempted to erase the pop video channels too.

I think the VCR will forget the time if you switch it off at the plug.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Even if you switch off at the plug, make sure you leave the plugs in so that the current doesn't leak out!

Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Why a laptop computer is not using power, I don't know. But again - what do I know?

i unplug it, it uses battery power while asleep.


Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I discovered the first episode of 'The Beiderbecke Affair' on ITV3 or something the other day. Lovely.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

James Bolam. I watched that, back in the day. I think.

Back in the days when I had an attention span.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

And the magnificent Barbara Flynn. IMDB reveals she was a hostage in middling Bill Murray vehicle Quick Change! The beginning and end of her Hollywood career.

ITV3 has been superceded in our affections by More4 and ITV4 (all yr ITC/RAI needs).

They're talking about debut hat-tricks on Sky Sports News. I bet they don't mention Tony Cottee OR if they mention Ian St John they neglect to point out that Everton beat Liverpool 4-3 in that match.

Hang on, I have email, they have email...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Did someone else get a debut hat-trick this weekend or has the entire universe fallen for the Scottish-media-led idea that getting a hat-trick against Peterhead (one of which was a penalty) makes Kris Boyd the new Pele? Or are they laughing at him in favour of *proper* debutante hat-tricks?

I have taken to watching National Geographic's rubbish list programmes (Top 10 "when bears fall out of trees onto trampolines", that sort of thing - seriously, the other night I watched a bear fall out of a tree onto a trampoline. It bounced off the trampoline and fell head first onto the ground. Then they followed it with some people who nearly drowned trying to rescue a cow off a cliff. Do you even get National Geographic on Digibox?

I still haven't watched anything on ITV4. Too many channels!

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to always leave my stereo's amplifier on, cause it was supposed to make it sound better and maybe last longer too. Then I gave up caring.

An old-fashioned valve amplifier would definitely last longer if it was kept switched on all the time - valves are really just a sophisticated sort of lightbulb, and valve failure nearly always occurs at switch-on.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

middling Bill Murray vehicle Quick Change

Middling? Vehicle?

It's a terrific picture!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, it tails off quite a bit, doesn't it? I think the first third is terrif, mind. And vehicle only in the sense that Bill was driving it (he co-directed). But can he get it to the airport on time? Ho ho.

I'm now watching a Snow show on one of the normal channels about land ownership. Pam is getting quite angry.

(I shamefully have left my CD player, phono pre-amp, line-level pre-amp, and monoblocs switched on for weeks at a time. The CD player has a class A output stage so it's probably sucking power from the wall like nobody's business 24 hours a day. It's the only concession to audiophile lore I make thesedays. I accept I'm also killing the planet).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

(Blimey, look at the serial comma in the first sentence of my last paragraph! It's the S0ft1tl3r virus.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

You are one of those people who knows what a serial comma is. I had never heard of them before that commas thread. And only now do I remember what they are called. I don't think I actually do them, mind.

Seeing as we are picking on your writing, you also made 'thesedays' into one word. Is that a new usage, like Morrissey's 'Everyday' meaning ... 'every day'?

I suppose I can meet you halfway on Quick Change.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

No, it's a shocking error. Or shockingerror. But, as we say in my line of work, it's not a resupply. It's also an excitable crushing together of words in tribute to an REM song I would like to hear right now.

The MOD owns 600,000 acres of land in the UK - cor! The mods own only a few promenades.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, yes, *that* song - it's smashing! One of my favourites.

Another parallel is 'Inbetween Days', where I am not sure the first word is quite a proper word.

It is only now that I understand what you meant by 'Snow show'.

The rockers, I suppose, own only a red guitar, three chords and the truth?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

We have got our usb digibox thing for our pc, which is great, but we need to buy another ariel because we can't get BBC3&4, any of the itv's or channel 4, and goodness knows what other lesser known channels. For some reason we get More4+1 and E4+1 but not the normal ones. (we're just using the ariel that came with the box, the TV ariel is at the other end of the house, so a little out of reach)

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

It'll be the arrangement of the channels on each multiplex, Vicky (I think)...

See http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/terrestrial/mux/

If you can't get BBC3 (Mux1), you probably can't get BBC1, BBC2 or News 24 either?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

No, we get BBC 1, 2 and News 24, just not 3&4, bizarre.

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I had missed whole swathes of this thread.

I call serial commas, "the Oxford Comma". Sounds much posher.

This morning: red button goals galore action from the likes of EVERTON.

In the near future:

Friday 20 January - 1900-2030 GMT, BBC THREE
Group A: Egypt v Libya

Saturday 21 January - 1900-2110 GMT, BBC THREE
Group A: Morocco v Ivory Coast
Group B: Cameroon v Angola
Group B: Togo v DR Congo

Sunday 22 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group C: Tunisia v Zambia
Group C: South Africa v Guinea

Monday 23 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group D: Nigeria v Ghana
Group D: Zimbabwe v Senegal

Tuesday 24 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group A: Libya v Ivory Coast
Group A: Egypt v Morocco

Wednesday 25 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group B: Angola v DR Congo
Group B: Cameroon v Togo

Thursday 26 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group C: Zambia v Guinea
Group C: Tunisia v South Africa

Friday 27 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group D: Ghana v Senegal
Group D: Nigeria v Zimbabwe

Saturday 28 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group A: Egypt v Ivory Coast
Group A: Libya v Morocco

Sunday 29 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group B: Angola v Togo
Group B: Cameroon v DR Congo

Monday 30 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group C: Tunisia v Guinea
Group C: Zambia v South Africa

Tuesday 31 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group D: Nigeria v Senegal
Group D: Ghana v Zimbabwe

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 19 January 2006 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

The Oxford Comma!

the bellefox, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"The Oxford comma is frequently, but in my view unwisely, omitted by many other publishers."

R.W. Burchfield - The New Fowler's Modern English Usage.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:46 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
So last month:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4614598.stm

"The guy who owns it really should do the lottery because the chances of sending out a signal from a digibox and sending out precisely and exactly on a major emergency channel are far more than 14 million to one."

Today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4712122.stm

SO JUST WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

It's ironic that this thread has turned into a bit of an S.O.S. list.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

number of dixigoxes / number of sos calls made by same: 1

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I expect Fireman Sam to come round any day now.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
(This is a repeat, and a boring one at that)

More digibox excitement: the other day I put it on top of the DVD player, and when I tried to play a DVD it wouldn't work, just kept saying "CLOSE" and flickering about. Took DVD back to library as "damaged". Got replacement DVD. Also refused to work. Tried DVD that is personal property and known to work. Would not work. Moved digibox. All was sweetness and light again.
That was a bit longwinded. To sum up:

a) I am a joey.

b) My digibox lacks some kind of "shielding".

c) funny old world.

I want one of those Humax recording things.

I wonder if ITV Digital boxes are collectors' items?

3-way at Argos sounds absolutely delightful. Brings a whole new meaninglessness to "please go to your collection point".

-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), January 4th, 2007.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 January 2007 08:58 (seventeen years ago) link


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