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My favorite part is their ability to entertain the belief that McCain could win NY.

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

Voting in Illinois & Ohio [Jonathan Adler]
A friend in Illinois writes:

I vote in a small, rural, conservative, Republican town in Illinois. There is nothing major for either state or local on the ballot. I waited 20 minutes to vote at 6:30 a.m. and the elderly poll workers said they had never seen an election like this before, even when there was a major local issue on the ballot.

I take some hope from this – I think all those people were there, just as my wife and I were there, to vote against Obama when it won’t make a difference at all, since he’ll easily carry Illinois based on Chicago. As my wife noted, the folks in the Remington caps were unlikely to be Obama voters.

Right, that's for sure it. It's not that people want to participate in a historic election. It's that they want to register their dissent against Obama and are therefore lining outside the door at 6:30 in the morning. Loltastic!

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

I would be totally creeped out by some lady sneaking up behind me to see who I voted for.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

America, It’s Cheney Time
She's ready.

By Kathryn Jean Lopez

Rudy? Fred? Mitt? McCain? Some Republicans seem not to know how to handle a situation in which the current vice president is not the obvious successor to the current president.

Well, fine. I have a solution: Cheney 2008.

Lynne Cheney, that is.

The beloved wife, mother, and grandmother is an accomplished historian and the author of over ten books, several of them bestsellers. As a former National Endowment for the Humanities chairman and current American Enterprise Institute fellow who has been married to a White House chief of staff, defense secretary, and vice president, Mrs. Cheney certainly knows her way around Washington.

She has been book touring of late, going on near every talking-head show, including the hostile Daily Show. That she had no fear going on Jon Stewart’s patronizing comedy news show is no big surprise. Lynne Cheney is a woman who knows how to make herself heard.

Recall that in a 2004 debate, John Kerry tried to use the Cheneys’ daughter, who is gay, against President Bush, who supports a federal amendment to protect traditional marriage. Lynne Cheney shot back the next day, calling “a cheap and tawdry political trick” and that Senator Kerry “is not a good man” for lowering himself.

Or check out that much-viewed YouTube of her having her way with Wolf Blitzer when he decided to grill her on U.S. torture policy instead of her children’s book, The 50 States: A Family Adventure Across America. She not only ably defended the administration, but also turned the tables on the veteran newsman, scolding CNN for its airing of enemy propaganda. Lynne — who once worked for CNN as a co-host of Crossfire — is a media-savvy lady.

And an independent one, too. Rather than join the conventional chorus that reflexively venerates former Democratic presidents — especially when they build houses — Mrs. Cheney bridled when asked about Jimmy Carter’s description of her husband as a “militant.” She said: “I really lost respect for Jimmy Carter in 1991. . . . He didn’t like the idea that we were going to get a United Nations resolution to kick Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. And so, he, as a former president, took it upon himself to write heads of state, urging them not to let their representatives in the United Nations vote for the resolution, supporting the action in Kuwait. You know, that — he really has crossed some kind of line here.” Lynne Cheney loves her country and won’t let anyone tear it down — TV network or former president.

And she’s even been a candidate before — or close enough. When Dick was recovering from a heart attack during a run for the House in 1977, she was his stand-in. Cheney biographer Stephen Hayes writes that “by all accounts, she filled in well.”

And while I don’t agree with her on every policy issue — e.g., she’s against a federal amendment to protect traditional marriage — I find her demeanor and approach to life overwhelmingly refreshing. Unlike so many women pols, she just does it. It’s only natural for her. Her new book, Blue Skies, No Fences (Threshold), is a delightful memoir of more innocent days. She was raised with, literally and figuratively, “no fences”: She does not see herself as a gender victim.

Cheney writes: “It never occurred to me that my chances of doing this were diminished because I was a girl. . . . My first-grade readers might show mothers at home and fathers off at work, but I saw my mother working and my grandmother, too. My female teachers . . . were role models of amazing strength. And while the girls I knew had few opportunities to shine on athletic fields, they were always finding skills they would perfect.”

The best reason to back Lynne Cheney for president, though, is the sheer fun of it: She would shake up the race, and she would make watching it a treat. The woman knows what she wants to say and says it well — which would take some stress off her natural allies. Moreover, she has declared herself “uncomfortable” with the thought of Hillary Clinton as president, and has voiced a preference for “politicians that are more in the Dick Cheney mold, who say what they mean and mean what they say”; I’d call that fire in the belly. Run, Cheney, run!

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

http://article.nationalreview.com/images/author/img20801322934491b48868824.gif

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Well, ok, THAT SETTLES THAT.

Another Reminder About Exit Polls [Ed Whelan]

Based on exit polls, the early word from election analysts in 2004 was that Virginia might be a big upset for John Kerry. President Bush ended up winning Virginia by a comfortable eight points, 54-46.

Virginia might go Barack Obama’s way tonight, but don’t trust the early reports. I’ll believe the forecast results, on Virginia and elsewhere, when I hear Michael Barone state them.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

K-lo has a lot of girl crushes, doesn't she? She's kind of like the female Lindsey Graham.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

lol stalinism

xp

goole, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

female Lindsey Graham

http://mikk2.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vanity-fair-mccain-lieberman-graham3.jpg

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

grosssss

GOOD LUCK USA! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

wau

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

I hate you so much right now, ugh ugh ugh.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

C:\HARD DRIVE\AND WHAT\LINDSEY GRAHAM XXX\vanityfair.jpg

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

i hate you

good luck usa (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

much hard one

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

>And while I don’t agree with her on every policy issue — e.g., she’s against a federal amendment to protect traditional marriage —

Gosh, K-lo, I wonder why she's against that

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, Tom DeLay eats a bowl of dicks for breakfast every chance he gets.

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

Ocean Nervous About Obama Presidency? (Jonah Goldberg)

Barack Obama has promised to lower the oceans whether they like it or not. Perhaps the oceans are merely trying to pad their advantage a bit so the retreat isn't so painful? From the Boston Globe:

Massive waves a mystery at Maine harbor

Dockworker Marcy Ingall saw a giant wave in the distance last Tuesday afternoon and stopped in her tracks. It was an hour before low tide in Maine's Boothbay Harbor, yet without warning, the muddy harbor floor suddenly filled with rushing, swirling water.

In 15 minutes, the water rose 12 feet, then receded. And then it happened again. It occurred three times, she said, each time ripping apart docks and splitting wooden pilings.

"It was bizarre," said Ingall, a lifelong resident of the area. "Everybody was like, 'Oh my God, is this the end?' " It was not the apocalypse, but it was a rare phenomenon, one that has baffled researchers. The National Weather Service said ocean levels rapidly rose in Boothbay, Southport, and Bristol in a matter of minutes around 3 p.m. on Oct. 28 to the surprise of ocean watchers. Exactly what caused the rogue waves remains unknown.

"The cause of it is a mystery," said National Weather Service meteorologist John Jensenius, who first reported the waves from a field office in Gray, Maine. "But it's not mysterious that it happened."

11/04 12:24 PM

I DIED, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

It's not mysterious that Jonah Goldberg is posting about it.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

posts I expect to be on The Corner in the next 24 hours:

- It wasn't the blowout the media were predicting (cites high outlier poll number)
- fraudulent voting was almost certainly a factor in (close state)
- we were only (x) number of votes from victory {where (x) is the smallest possible margin to flip the smallest possible number of states}
- the country will see they've been sold a false bill of goods and we'll sweep 2012
- I'm going to the movies with my daughter (Jonah Goldberg)

I DIED, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, Tom DeLay eats a bowl of dicks for breakfast every chance he gets.

Keep the pics of DeLay getting man-head to yourself, plz.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

(xxpost) that Goldberg item is maybe the first time in Corner history they've suggested human behavior could have an impact on the environment! Even if it's in a totally insane and wrong way.

I DIED, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:33 (seventeen years ago)

posts I expect to be on The Corner in the next 24 hours:

- It wasn't the blowout the media were predicting (cites high outlier poll number)
- fraudulent voting was almost certainly a factor in (close state)
- we were only (x) number of votes from victory {where (x) is the smallest possible margin to flip the smallest possible number of states}
- the country will see they've been sold a false bill of goods and we'll sweep 2012
- I'm going to the movies with my daughter (Jonah Goldberg)

― I DIED, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 2:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lolz

deej, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 21:59 (seventeen years ago)

http://mikk2.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vanity-fair-mccain-lieberman-graham3.jpg

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

OMG <3<3<3

Greetings. I'm taking a second from continuously hitting refresh on The Corner to report a depressing voting experience. No NBPP members with billy clubs promising to get black to me later.

These are the lolz I'm talking about!

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

I am really tempted to write a trashy Jacqueline Susann type novel based on a Lindsey Graham-esque senator for nanowrimo, where he has to stop an ambitious hussy potential vp from murdering his true love.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

omg nicole do this

must involve garter belts, sniper rifle, blowing curtains, columbia outdoor gear

goole, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

Still time for NaNoWriMo this year.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

I know.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

it's kind of a story that writes itself

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

Oops, sorry Nicole, hadn't seen you'd mentioned that already!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

H-O-P-E [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
If you 21 and older college kids need a drinking game, look for talking heads overusing that word. Chris Mathews just declared this as exactly what Americans are looking for. This will be the hope election and there will be all kinds of thrills on MSM street.

Well, unless the voters decide something else, given they haven't finished voting yet.

11/04 05:03 PM

the perfect blovian move (gbx), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

oops, last clause was in italics: ...given they haven't finished voting yet.

the perfect blovian move (gbx), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:26 (seventeen years ago)

A beautiful day in the neighborhood [Lisa Schiffren]
Apparently the old gang votes together too: According to ABC's Jake Tapper,

CHICAGO, Ill. — Among the other voters who have shown up to vote at Shoesmith Elementary School this morning, where Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., will vote: Louis Farrakhan and William Ayers.

Seriously.

Welcome to the South Side of Chicago.

- jpt

Can't make this stuff up.

11/04 04:51 PM

the perfect blovian move (gbx), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:26 (seventeen years ago)

ts: hope vs morning in america

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

Exit Poll Data For Real [Jonah Goldberg]
Fox reporting that new voters make up 10% of voters nationwide. Polls are still open, remember. In the following states, Fox reports that the break down of new voters is

Obama McCain

Indiana 73 27

Virginia 69 31

Ohio 63 36

11/04 05:30 PM

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

fucking ohio

deej, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

doing worse than indiana, really???

deej, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

That's pretty embarrassing for Ohio!

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

I'd be thrilled if Obama won the election and lost Ohio. Just to shove it down their fat redneck throats.

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

that's just new voters -- not surprising really. not having been targeted in 04, indiana presumably would have more "new" nonvoters lying around to be picked up

goole, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

More from that post:

Obama McCain

Indiana 44 54

Virginia 47 51

Ohio 39 58

Late Deciders

Obama McCain

Indiana 52% 45%

Ohio 54 39

Virginia 44 55

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:39 (seventeen years ago)

playing the exit polls game is only going to make u crazy

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

This isn't the exit polls game. It's the Corner exit polls game.

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

I'm secretly hoping for K-Lo to start making up exit polls.

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

suggest ban for reposting exit polls

deej, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

Those polls are pure nonsense.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

IT Takes a Graphic [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

An e-mail:

K-Lo,

I've only just started noticing it today, so perhaps it's been that way for awhile and I just missed it, but having the American Flag be the only thing on the screen for a second or to before the NRO pages load is inspiring.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

fuck an exit poll

lol xps

goole, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

K-Lo has crazy fans

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:42 (seventeen years ago)


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