Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I really have no idea what the point was of the island magically making him pilot the Ajira flight back

I think we're still confusing mystical forces on the island. Jacob probably wanted Frank there for some reason, and MIB either wanted him dead or didn't care. It's not like MIB plays along with what the island wants.

I've compiled all of the deaths of the Oceanic 815 passengers. Most of this is taken from http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Oceanic_Flight_815_Crew_and_Passengers

324 people on board

253 died instantly
Pilot killed by Smokey
Gary Troup(e) pulled into turbine
Eddie Mars had fatal injuries and was euthanized by Jack
4 more died from injuries
1 carried away by riptide
Boone fell off a cliff
Scott killed, probably by Ethan
Arzt blown up by nitroglycerin
Nathan (tailie) had neck snapped by Goodwin
Shannon shot by Ana Lucia
Ana Lucia and Libby shot by Michael
Eko killed by Smokey
Nikki and Paulo buried alive
Charlie drowned in the Looking Glass by Mikhail
3 or 4 killed by Keamy & co ("Stay in the house!")
Michael and 3 extras died when the freighter exploded
Frogurt and 16 more killed by flaming arrow attacks
2 extras blown up in 1954
Locke strangled by Ben
Sayid blown up by Smokey's bomb
Jin and Sun drowned on the sub

Who's left: Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Claire, Walt, Cindy, Emma and Zach (the kids with Cindy), Rose and Bernard (maybe), and Aaron was born. 10 background Tailies presumed alive and following MIB.

Actually MIBs followers ran off after the Widmore bombs, so those last must be in the jungle somewheres.

think killing off the kwons was pretty shitty tbh, despite their uselessness for the entire season

I think the Kwons, and also Claire, were necessary elements in the story for the first three seasons or so, when they were all still out on the beach and they needed that domestic aspect to the community. They probably could have written all three out by giving them a Walt style ending rather than dragging them round as dead wood for such a long time.

Really fucked off about the casual way they wrote in Sayid's death but then again he's already died once so if anyone can survive a bomb blast it's probably him.

I agree they could have killed Sun & Jin long ago. That's what happens when characters are popular even though they've outlived their usefulness. Around the end of SSN 3 the show became mostly about Ben, Locke, Desmond, Jack, Sawyer & Hurley (sorta) with all the other characters pushed to cannon fodder land. Except for Kate, who has always been useless but will outlive everyone.

i'm not quite sure sun & jin are/were popular, except for the small minority that also seem to love rose & bernard

Sun & Jin were great when they were all about the betrayal and intrigue and sinister gangster shit and they gradually became more and more two-dimensional. Then again pretty much everyone has become more two-dimensional as the series has gone on.

Didn't really care about the deaths in this episode, they can just come back as ghosts who talk to Hurley so they had no real impact for me.

i'm not quite sure sun & jin are/were popular,

Daniel Dae Kim is just behind Sawyer in the being-drooled-over sweepstakes.

Really fucked off about the casual way they wrote in Sayid's death but then again he's already died once so if anyone can survive a bomb blast it's probably him.

Sayid is the new Mikhail, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him again.

There Is No Sayid..

man someone mentioning charlie's death reminded me that this show had good episodes once upon a time

also the time jump episodes were great

i wish the writers would give us something to talk about

the whole Sayid death/possession plot is one of the things I'm holding out hope will come to fruition in some interesting way in the finale, just because otherwise it'd be one of the biggest wastes of time the show's ever had.

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xp Would it? I mean, seems like the whole point of it was really to play up MIB's role in all of this as a mysterious heel. Sayid's redemption/fall arc seems long ago mostly settled, and like a lot of these storylines will probably resolve in the alt.

geez try a little harder for Katey Segal, cartoonist

Intrigued by what Claire will do with her time now alone again - more skiletun boyby i hope.

MIB had nothing to do with Sayid's death/resurrection, and the only reason Sayid followed him was...I guess MIB made a vague promise to bring back his dead wife? Either way that didn't really necessitate or explain Sayid dying and coming back to life, it seems like it's all just a vague smoke(heh)screen to make Sayid a mysterious maybe-bad guy.

When Sayid came back, Jacob was dead, the water was impure, they tested him for Smokey corruption which turned out to be true - thought this all implied MIB was responsible, just like with Claire's mysterious survival of the rocket attack back in S4.

meh

dunno if this was posted, some are kinda lol. jack and kate captured perfectly as airheads.
http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2010/05/04/lost-characters-at-a-young-age/

Sayid kept saying that he didn't "feel anything" anymore. I figured he's more logical and will go through life doing whatever is most logical. He wanted the love of his life to live, so following around smokey and doing his bidding seemed to make sense. Logically, when it seemed like smokey was really just trying to screw people, he changed allegiances. Pretty simple.

in another parallel universe, Sawyer is a purse-snatcher targeting Alicia Silverstone - @ 3.23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfNmyxV2Ncw

Ha ha--it looks like told him, "Just play the guy you played in the Aerosmith video."

My friend Chris just laid this theory on me. What say you all?

Desmond's still the key. He's going to break the cycle that I think has been happening for ever and ever and ever. I think because the island is a special place where time nearly doesn't matter that it's been looping and looping through this scenario, and we are watching the second to last scenario. In this scenario, somehow, this Desmond guy got involved, but he wasn't supposed to, making him the unforeseen variable that throws the balance off. The balance is not thrown off for MIB and Jacob, but against both of them. Desmond's obviously the one they referred to when MIB or Jacob said "He's coming" and scared the shit out of the other one.

He's going to end the cycle for both Jacob and MIB. MIB just wants off the island, but he doesn't want to die, Jacob wants to say on the island, but doesn't want to die. I think Desmond is going to somehow kill both of them, for good, and then when the island resets everything, the two of them don't exist, and the Flash-sideways is what occurs as a result.

Or not, who knows... oh wait, we all will, in three weeks!!! Yikes!

didn't Jacob say "they're coming" tho? multiple Desmonds i hope

These are always worth a read:
http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/things-i-noticed-candidate-by-vozzek69.html

I think the show is too Jack-centric for Desmond to be that important. I think he is mostly a seer, a guy who points Jack et al. in the right direction ... like Faraday, etc.

the DarkUFO blog was excellent, I was thinking of lots of those things as I was watching - definitely still very much enjoying the show on those terms

ok the biggest "oh shit yeah" moment brought up in the darkufo thing is def the fact that MIB took the wristwatch off the dead dude before he "discovered" the bomb on the plane which means either he planted it or knew it was there all along.

ah yes, that is right!

^^^ brilliant!

ive been pretty much face-palming myself ever since reading that because i totally goddamn missed it and now i feel kinda dumb

I feel like I'm going to be doing that a lot when I get around to re-watching this in a few years.

I noticed that but I thought he remade the bomb with the same materials.

i was ready to throw something at the tv when jack kate sawyer hurley washed up on shore, like, these are the survivors, you literally picked my four least favorite characters on the show to survive??

tho in retrospect jack has been thousands of times more tolerable the last couple episodes

i didn't get why sayid all of a sudden just woke up and acted normal when there was a bomb to deal with. thought he was a zombie or something and then he's his normal self.

the DarkUFO blog was excellent

― Nhex, Thursday, May 6, 2010 4:46 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

actually interested in ending again now

how did none of them get the bends having to dive and ascend so quickly?

yeah, thanks for that blog link. never seen it. its interesting AND well-written. 2 for 2.

xpost LISTEN, THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT

didn't Jacob say "they're coming" tho?

Given what we know now, the whole thing with Christian telling Locke to turn the donkey wheel seems part of MIB's long con--he wanted the candidates stranded in the past, so that when he killed Jacob in the present there'd be no one there to replace him. Jacob however had been working his own angle, getting the candidates to blow up Jughead so they could return to the present (and create another reality?) Hence him knowing that "they" were coming.

max what you got against Hurley or Sawyer?

These ladies are pretty much nailing my feelings on that episode:

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/05/06/thursday-lost-roundtable-the-candidate/

favorite bit:

"SADY: At least Jack stalks dudes AND ladies. Oh, no, wait, that is not actually any fucking better! Fuck this show. Fuck this show for giving me Jack, and fuck this show for taking away any interesting non-Jack material that made Jack bearable because at least he didn’t have ALL the screen time, and fuck this show for making me watch the rest of it knowing that if I ever get interested in anything other than Jack, that will be taken away for MORE TIME WITH JACK, and his JACK FEELINGS."

I greatly prefer Jack of seasons 5 and 6 to previous years! That post was way too sanctimonious for me bit I loled at

But fear not, remaining characters of color! Do you … make white people laugh? If so, you’re relatively safe! Rest easy, Hurley and Miles!

Sanctimonious yes, but they're also the only people I know who are as angry about that episode as I am.

That dark UFO post is sort of stupid, it's little more than a detailed summary of the episode with an assumed knowledge of "the answers" throughout, eg jack and Locke can't see the wood for the trees.

Can't they? What is the wood?