Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

this was better than the last ep, which was one of the worst ever

i did kinda enjoy this one mostly but i have no fucking idea why. what is even the point of having kate shot etc.

hope ben, richard and miles are just sat in a hot tub on another secret dharma station puffing on cigars.

what is even the point of having kate shot etc.

ha. yeah i hadn't even thought of this. no-one thinks she will die this way, do they?

idk this show's discourse about faith has become this meta thing about the many unresolved plotlines etc. we are all alpert in that one ep.

what is even the point of having kate shot etc.

like i said upthread, to fill me with fleeting hope

i thought considering they killed a couple of people, and considering it was clear from a point that the sub was gonna blow, i really feel you wanted the sub to go fucking KEBLAMMO and really explode, not this crappy pop gun explosion into sayid's ribcage and a slow watery grave.

i mean to get the sense of mib as evil i think you really wanted a horrifying death, the trailer for this ep had people screaming as if the sub was dark, horrible, burning, full of death.

not to sound too sinister but seriously, it lacked impact as an ep where people died, the scene with jin and sun was sad but it was rushed. i just feel like i wanted some towering inferno and the flames reflected in locke's psychotic pupils.

as it is mib just seems kind of thuggish...not evil. i mean by now don't we want him to be a total angel of death terror machine?

the sub explosion didn't even seem like a crisis, surely they could channel people's fear of the fucking horrible mental confusion a sub sinking would invoke, the blind panic, the disorientation. they were all really collected and only couldn't escape cos sun was stuck.

anyway i thought the whole thing in the black rock was Jack and Hurley couldn't be killed period because they were CANDIDATES -- if Sun and Jin both died does that mean that's bullshit or that they'd been ruled out as candidates by some random logic in the interim?

Think it's pretty obvious by now that Jack is the only one who can't be killed period, think Sayid knew what he was talking about when he told him to go find Desmond.

I kind of love scenes in which several major characters die in quick succession, but Lapidus's death was so dumb it was kinda lol. If he doesn't come back, I really have no idea what the point was of the island magically making him pilot the Ajira flight back.

Also trying to work out what the point was of Widmore kidnapping Jin, but that scene looked pretty final.

The flashforwards are definitely going somewhere but I wish they'd hurry the fuck up and get there.

surely they could channel people's fear of the fucking horrible mental confusion a sub sinking would invoke, the blind panic, the disorientation. they were all really collected

This didn't happen on an about-to-explode freighter either.

I really have no idea what the point was of the island magically making him pilot the Ajira flight back

It was all so they could give him the line "We're not going to Guam, are we?" and then they were stuck carrying him along for the duration of the season.

i forgot this too the first time around - Widmore kidnapped Jin to find the energy pockets marked on the old Dharma map

xp tbf it worked all right, just that six of them had to survive and you knew this from like half a season before

The Widmore/Desmond stuff is the one mystery I still really care about, like how does Widmore know what's going to happen? How is Desmond so special? The Jacob/Smokey ep has the potential to be illuminating but in all sorts of terrible ways. So of the people who are left, I reckon:

Jack: OMG future Jacob god type dude
Desmond/Widmore: Mystical time travel shit
Kate/Sawyer: Adam & Eve
Hurley: Gets to actually go home
Richard & Ben: Actually kill Smokey, and probably die as well
Miles: Cannon fodder

place yer wagers!

i did actually think the sub was gonna blow up and that Jack and co would have to cross from alt line to the real world.

Dudes, what if the whole thing resolves with Walt creating a best-selling graphic novel? Maybe the plane crash was real, but the rest of it was just his teenage mind embellishing an uneventful story?

Walt a little too young to be dropping refs to dead philosophers and jamming to Iggy.

Richard is immortal.

I think New Jacob (whoever that might be) will give him the choice to die and he will choose to continue to serve goodness and light or whatever.

It would explain many a loose end, though. xp

I forgot Claire: turns out to have broken the circle of ash and let Smokey out of the cabin. And also has an excruciating scene involving the mystical child in the jungle.

I think Claire and Kate will have a big fight at some point.

If you guys really want to see the worst finale ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxI_UwYThgU

Claire: turns out to have broken the circle of ash and let Smokey out of the cabin

don't think this works because Smokey approached her in the jungle as Christian

oh no jin and sun are dead

what indelible characters, such a shame

― Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Wednesday, May 5, 2010 5:35 PM (3 hours ago)

lol

I really have no idea what the point was of the island magically making him pilot the Ajira flight back

I think we're still confusing mystical forces on the island. Jacob probably wanted Frank there for some reason, and MIB either wanted him dead or didn't care. It's not like MIB plays along with what the island wants.

I've compiled all of the deaths of the Oceanic 815 passengers. Most of this is taken from http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Oceanic_Flight_815_Crew_and_Passengers

324 people on board

253 died instantly
Pilot killed by Smokey
Gary Troup(e) pulled into turbine
Eddie Mars had fatal injuries and was euthanized by Jack
4 more died from injuries
1 carried away by riptide
Boone fell off a cliff
Scott killed, probably by Ethan
Arzt blown up by nitroglycerin
Nathan (tailie) had neck snapped by Goodwin
Shannon shot by Ana Lucia
Ana Lucia and Libby shot by Michael
Eko killed by Smokey
Nikki and Paulo buried alive
Charlie drowned in the Looking Glass by Mikhail
3 or 4 killed by Keamy & co ("Stay in the house!")
Michael and 3 extras died when the freighter exploded
Frogurt and 16 more killed by flaming arrow attacks
2 extras blown up in 1954
Locke strangled by Ben
Sayid blown up by Smokey's bomb
Jin and Sun drowned on the sub

Who's left: Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Claire, Walt, Cindy, Emma and Zach (the kids with Cindy), Rose and Bernard (maybe), and Aaron was born. 10 background Tailies presumed alive and following MIB.

Actually MIBs followers ran off after the Widmore bombs, so those last must be in the jungle somewheres.

think killing off the kwons was pretty shitty tbh, despite their uselessness for the entire season

I think the Kwons, and also Claire, were necessary elements in the story for the first three seasons or so, when they were all still out on the beach and they needed that domestic aspect to the community. They probably could have written all three out by giving them a Walt style ending rather than dragging them round as dead wood for such a long time.

Really fucked off about the casual way they wrote in Sayid's death but then again he's already died once so if anyone can survive a bomb blast it's probably him.

I agree they could have killed Sun & Jin long ago. That's what happens when characters are popular even though they've outlived their usefulness. Around the end of SSN 3 the show became mostly about Ben, Locke, Desmond, Jack, Sawyer & Hurley (sorta) with all the other characters pushed to cannon fodder land. Except for Kate, who has always been useless but will outlive everyone.

i'm not quite sure sun & jin are/were popular, except for the small minority that also seem to love rose & bernard

Sun & Jin were great when they were all about the betrayal and intrigue and sinister gangster shit and they gradually became more and more two-dimensional. Then again pretty much everyone has become more two-dimensional as the series has gone on.

Didn't really care about the deaths in this episode, they can just come back as ghosts who talk to Hurley so they had no real impact for me.

i'm not quite sure sun & jin are/were popular,

Daniel Dae Kim is just behind Sawyer in the being-drooled-over sweepstakes.

Really fucked off about the casual way they wrote in Sayid's death but then again he's already died once so if anyone can survive a bomb blast it's probably him.

Sayid is the new Mikhail, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him again.

There Is No Sayid..

man someone mentioning charlie's death reminded me that this show had good episodes once upon a time

also the time jump episodes were great

i wish the writers would give us something to talk about

the whole Sayid death/possession plot is one of the things I'm holding out hope will come to fruition in some interesting way in the finale, just because otherwise it'd be one of the biggest wastes of time the show's ever had.

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xp Would it? I mean, seems like the whole point of it was really to play up MIB's role in all of this as a mysterious heel. Sayid's redemption/fall arc seems long ago mostly settled, and like a lot of these storylines will probably resolve in the alt.

geez try a little harder for Katey Segal, cartoonist

Intrigued by what Claire will do with her time now alone again - more skiletun boyby i hope.

MIB had nothing to do with Sayid's death/resurrection, and the only reason Sayid followed him was...I guess MIB made a vague promise to bring back his dead wife? Either way that didn't really necessitate or explain Sayid dying and coming back to life, it seems like it's all just a vague smoke(heh)screen to make Sayid a mysterious maybe-bad guy.

When Sayid came back, Jacob was dead, the water was impure, they tested him for Smokey corruption which turned out to be true - thought this all implied MIB was responsible, just like with Claire's mysterious survival of the rocket attack back in S4.

meh

dunno if this was posted, some are kinda lol. jack and kate captured perfectly as airheads.
http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2010/05/04/lost-characters-at-a-young-age/

Sayid kept saying that he didn't "feel anything" anymore. I figured he's more logical and will go through life doing whatever is most logical. He wanted the love of his life to live, so following around smokey and doing his bidding seemed to make sense. Logically, when it seemed like smokey was really just trying to screw people, he changed allegiances. Pretty simple.

in another parallel universe, Sawyer is a purse-snatcher targeting Alicia Silverstone - @ 3.23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfNmyxV2Ncw