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she's sniffing the White-Out already, isn't she?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

It's Rudy [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

So many e-mailers this morning are predicting that the McCain trial balloon is really about Giuliani.

I don't think it's being floated for Liebermann or Ridge.
I think he's considering Giuliani.
- Might put NY in enough play to make Obama spend a lot of money there.
- Has name recognition and gets plenty of respect on law enforcement/national security
- Might be more palatable to pro-lifers if he were to make clear that it's McCain's pro-life administration

The McCain campaign has already hired a Giuliani staffer as the unnamed veep's communications director...

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

Indicators [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

A reader asks:

Okay, so the parking lots are filling up at the polls. With what,
hybrids or SUVs?

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:01 (seventeen years ago)

Surely I'm Not the Only One with This Thought? [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Maybe, if I go to sleep tonight, I'll wake up to November 2007 and we can try this whole primary-and-election thing again and have the Hillary-Mitt race I expected we'd have.

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

god think how horrible a hillary mitt race woulda been

good luck usa (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

bo-ring

flyover statesman (will), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

Imagine the VP debate in that one!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

On A Less Cheery Note [Jonah Goldberg]

Karl Rove:

"The final Rove & Co. electoral map of the 2008 election cycle points to a 338-200 Barack Obama electoral vote victory over John McCain tomorrow, the largest electoral margin since 1996. All remaining toss-up states have been allocated to the candidate leading in them, with Florida (27 EV) going to Obama, and Indiana (11 EV), Missouri (11 EV), North Carolina (15 EV), and North Dakota (3 EV) going to McCain. The two candidates are in a dead heat in Missouri and North Carolina, but they go to McCain because the most recent polls conducted over this past weekend show him narrowly ahead. Florida, too, could end up in McCain’s column since he’s benefited from recent movement in the state."

Update: From a reader:

Brilliant! The perfect Rovian move. "Even Karl Rove says Obama's going to win, and boy, that line at the polls sure is long . . . Ahhh, he doesn't need MY vote."

Update II: Lots and lots of folks are noting that there's not much analysis here. Basically Rove is simply giving the states where Obama and McCain are leading to...Obama and McCain.

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

Ethan, ask K-Lo who her favourite member of Duran Duran is and depending on reply we'll know the answer to the Dee suspicion for sure.

Drinking Points Memo (suzy), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

Probably someone lame like Warren Cuccurullo.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

Just Saying.. [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

DeLay isn't mincing words:

"I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, Barack Obama is a Marxist," said Tom DeLay, the former congressman and House Republican majority leader, in a recent radio interview.

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:11 (seventeen years ago)

how does someone prove they aren't a marxist

the perfect blovian move (gbx), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

And thus you see into the cunning mind of Tom DeLay.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:15 (seventeen years ago)

unless he proves me wrong, barack obama is merely concealing his ability to fly.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

By giving Tom Delay a tax cut.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

The Village People [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

As Mark says, these stories don't mean much and they are more just to pass the time and to celebrate the democratic process. But I'll add to this one before I paste it below that I have been surprised how many people in New York City — from security guards to millionaires, have seen me with a McCain-Palin pin and asked, "Have any good news?" or "Is there any chance?" They tell me "I have my fingers crossed." They even say, "I am praying. " Does this mean McCain will win? Of course not. But it's been interesting/surprising and does serve as a reminder that no election is over when the media — or a candidate — says it is, but when the voters are in and counted.

I live right off Washington Sq Park,, in the middle of NYU-ville and where Obama signs are everywhere.

As I stood in line, I looked around and assumed I was the only person who was going to vote for McCain (aka voting against Obama). As I waited outside the voting booth, I noticed that the curtain had a "hole" in between those metal things that it hangs from - I'm tall and it was in such a place that I could see who she was going to vote for. I indulged my human urge to be nosy and see who she voted for. I also chose to be a masochist and watch her pull down the thingie for Obama.

oops, she voted for McCain.

I'd like to see the Vegas odds on two people in Greenwich Village voting McCain back to back.

I know it's optimistic (in the extreme) to think this is being played out again and again in Greenwich Village but it did make me wonder just how often today, in the privacy of the booth, people are going to go against the conventional wisdom and vote McCain.

I have a feeling in my gut we're in for a big surprise.

Or, it might simply be gas.

good luck usa (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:55 (seventeen years ago)

k-lo on some larry craig shit titling her post about gloryholes in voting booths "the village people"

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

lol epic fail

http://i37.tinypic.com/2dqsu53.png

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

who knew adler was friends with the mod of net art

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

Tuesday, November 02, 2004

Warning (KJL)

Do not, again, do not take any exit poll resports too seriously. JUST GET OUT THE VOTE. Exit polls not always reliable, ESPECIALLY early ones. AND, this isn't over until the polls close. So please get to work while there is still time.

DO NOT get depressed. DO NOT get mad. JUST GET OUT THE VOTE.

I contend this is the most important election of many of our lifetimes. I'm almost willing to make a deal and give the Dems 2008 if we can have this one.

I DIED, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

My favorite part is their ability to entertain the belief that McCain could win NY.

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

Voting in Illinois & Ohio [Jonathan Adler]
A friend in Illinois writes:

I vote in a small, rural, conservative, Republican town in Illinois. There is nothing major for either state or local on the ballot. I waited 20 minutes to vote at 6:30 a.m. and the elderly poll workers said they had never seen an election like this before, even when there was a major local issue on the ballot.

I take some hope from this – I think all those people were there, just as my wife and I were there, to vote against Obama when it won’t make a difference at all, since he’ll easily carry Illinois based on Chicago. As my wife noted, the folks in the Remington caps were unlikely to be Obama voters.

Right, that's for sure it. It's not that people want to participate in a historic election. It's that they want to register their dissent against Obama and are therefore lining outside the door at 6:30 in the morning. Loltastic!

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

I would be totally creeped out by some lady sneaking up behind me to see who I voted for.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

America, It’s Cheney Time
She's ready.

By Kathryn Jean Lopez

Rudy? Fred? Mitt? McCain? Some Republicans seem not to know how to handle a situation in which the current vice president is not the obvious successor to the current president.

Well, fine. I have a solution: Cheney 2008.

Lynne Cheney, that is.

The beloved wife, mother, and grandmother is an accomplished historian and the author of over ten books, several of them bestsellers. As a former National Endowment for the Humanities chairman and current American Enterprise Institute fellow who has been married to a White House chief of staff, defense secretary, and vice president, Mrs. Cheney certainly knows her way around Washington.

She has been book touring of late, going on near every talking-head show, including the hostile Daily Show. That she had no fear going on Jon Stewart’s patronizing comedy news show is no big surprise. Lynne Cheney is a woman who knows how to make herself heard.

Recall that in a 2004 debate, John Kerry tried to use the Cheneys’ daughter, who is gay, against President Bush, who supports a federal amendment to protect traditional marriage. Lynne Cheney shot back the next day, calling “a cheap and tawdry political trick” and that Senator Kerry “is not a good man” for lowering himself.

Or check out that much-viewed YouTube of her having her way with Wolf Blitzer when he decided to grill her on U.S. torture policy instead of her children’s book, The 50 States: A Family Adventure Across America. She not only ably defended the administration, but also turned the tables on the veteran newsman, scolding CNN for its airing of enemy propaganda. Lynne — who once worked for CNN as a co-host of Crossfire — is a media-savvy lady.

And an independent one, too. Rather than join the conventional chorus that reflexively venerates former Democratic presidents — especially when they build houses — Mrs. Cheney bridled when asked about Jimmy Carter’s description of her husband as a “militant.” She said: “I really lost respect for Jimmy Carter in 1991. . . . He didn’t like the idea that we were going to get a United Nations resolution to kick Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. And so, he, as a former president, took it upon himself to write heads of state, urging them not to let their representatives in the United Nations vote for the resolution, supporting the action in Kuwait. You know, that — he really has crossed some kind of line here.” Lynne Cheney loves her country and won’t let anyone tear it down — TV network or former president.

And she’s even been a candidate before — or close enough. When Dick was recovering from a heart attack during a run for the House in 1977, she was his stand-in. Cheney biographer Stephen Hayes writes that “by all accounts, she filled in well.”

And while I don’t agree with her on every policy issue — e.g., she’s against a federal amendment to protect traditional marriage — I find her demeanor and approach to life overwhelmingly refreshing. Unlike so many women pols, she just does it. It’s only natural for her. Her new book, Blue Skies, No Fences (Threshold), is a delightful memoir of more innocent days. She was raised with, literally and figuratively, “no fences”: She does not see herself as a gender victim.

Cheney writes: “It never occurred to me that my chances of doing this were diminished because I was a girl. . . . My first-grade readers might show mothers at home and fathers off at work, but I saw my mother working and my grandmother, too. My female teachers . . . were role models of amazing strength. And while the girls I knew had few opportunities to shine on athletic fields, they were always finding skills they would perfect.”

The best reason to back Lynne Cheney for president, though, is the sheer fun of it: She would shake up the race, and she would make watching it a treat. The woman knows what she wants to say and says it well — which would take some stress off her natural allies. Moreover, she has declared herself “uncomfortable” with the thought of Hillary Clinton as president, and has voiced a preference for “politicians that are more in the Dick Cheney mold, who say what they mean and mean what they say”; I’d call that fire in the belly. Run, Cheney, run!

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

http://article.nationalreview.com/images/author/img20801322934491b48868824.gif

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Well, ok, THAT SETTLES THAT.

Another Reminder About Exit Polls [Ed Whelan]

Based on exit polls, the early word from election analysts in 2004 was that Virginia might be a big upset for John Kerry. President Bush ended up winning Virginia by a comfortable eight points, 54-46.

Virginia might go Barack Obama’s way tonight, but don’t trust the early reports. I’ll believe the forecast results, on Virginia and elsewhere, when I hear Michael Barone state them.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

K-lo has a lot of girl crushes, doesn't she? She's kind of like the female Lindsey Graham.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

lol stalinism

xp

goole, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

female Lindsey Graham

http://mikk2.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vanity-fair-mccain-lieberman-graham3.jpg

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

grosssss

GOOD LUCK USA! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

wau

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

I hate you so much right now, ugh ugh ugh.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

C:\HARD DRIVE\AND WHAT\LINDSEY GRAHAM XXX\vanityfair.jpg

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

i hate you

good luck usa (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

much hard one

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

>And while I don’t agree with her on every policy issue — e.g., she’s against a federal amendment to protect traditional marriage —

Gosh, K-lo, I wonder why she's against that

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, Tom DeLay eats a bowl of dicks for breakfast every chance he gets.

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

Ocean Nervous About Obama Presidency? (Jonah Goldberg)

Barack Obama has promised to lower the oceans whether they like it or not. Perhaps the oceans are merely trying to pad their advantage a bit so the retreat isn't so painful? From the Boston Globe:

Massive waves a mystery at Maine harbor

Dockworker Marcy Ingall saw a giant wave in the distance last Tuesday afternoon and stopped in her tracks. It was an hour before low tide in Maine's Boothbay Harbor, yet without warning, the muddy harbor floor suddenly filled with rushing, swirling water.

In 15 minutes, the water rose 12 feet, then receded. And then it happened again. It occurred three times, she said, each time ripping apart docks and splitting wooden pilings.

"It was bizarre," said Ingall, a lifelong resident of the area. "Everybody was like, 'Oh my God, is this the end?' " It was not the apocalypse, but it was a rare phenomenon, one that has baffled researchers. The National Weather Service said ocean levels rapidly rose in Boothbay, Southport, and Bristol in a matter of minutes around 3 p.m. on Oct. 28 to the surprise of ocean watchers. Exactly what caused the rogue waves remains unknown.

"The cause of it is a mystery," said National Weather Service meteorologist John Jensenius, who first reported the waves from a field office in Gray, Maine. "But it's not mysterious that it happened."

11/04 12:24 PM

I DIED, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

It's not mysterious that Jonah Goldberg is posting about it.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

posts I expect to be on The Corner in the next 24 hours:

- It wasn't the blowout the media were predicting (cites high outlier poll number)
- fraudulent voting was almost certainly a factor in (close state)
- we were only (x) number of votes from victory {where (x) is the smallest possible margin to flip the smallest possible number of states}
- the country will see they've been sold a false bill of goods and we'll sweep 2012
- I'm going to the movies with my daughter (Jonah Goldberg)

I DIED, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, Tom DeLay eats a bowl of dicks for breakfast every chance he gets.

Keep the pics of DeLay getting man-head to yourself, plz.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

(xxpost) that Goldberg item is maybe the first time in Corner history they've suggested human behavior could have an impact on the environment! Even if it's in a totally insane and wrong way.

I DIED, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:33 (seventeen years ago)

posts I expect to be on The Corner in the next 24 hours:

- It wasn't the blowout the media were predicting (cites high outlier poll number)
- fraudulent voting was almost certainly a factor in (close state)
- we were only (x) number of votes from victory {where (x) is the smallest possible margin to flip the smallest possible number of states}
- the country will see they've been sold a false bill of goods and we'll sweep 2012
- I'm going to the movies with my daughter (Jonah Goldberg)

― I DIED, Tuesday, November 4, 2008 2:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lolz

deej, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 21:59 (seventeen years ago)

http://mikk2.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vanity-fair-mccain-lieberman-graham3.jpg

and what, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

OMG <3<3<3

Greetings. I'm taking a second from continuously hitting refresh on The Corner to report a depressing voting experience. No NBPP members with billy clubs promising to get black to me later.

These are the lolz I'm talking about!

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

I am really tempted to write a trashy Jacqueline Susann type novel based on a Lindsey Graham-esque senator for nanowrimo, where he has to stop an ambitious hussy potential vp from murdering his true love.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

omg nicole do this

must involve garter belts, sniper rifle, blowing curtains, columbia outdoor gear

goole, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

Still time for NaNoWriMo this year.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

I know.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

it's kind of a story that writes itself

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:23 (seventeen years ago)


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