haha
what's amazing is how common these stories are.
― goole, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
more amazing is how some ppl don't understand why everyone assumes virulent homophobes are closeted gays given the frequency of these stories
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
my guess is (james baldwin ahoy) people like this get into the firebreathing racket early in life and those already in it are more than happy to have them.
― goole, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
...and we'll probably never really know how it works since none of these dudes has the self-possession to give an honest account of their life, inner or outer. they're too deep in the game, and the whole life around it; self-exile is hard work and these guys have raised cowardice to an artform. ted haggard did a prayer weekend and he's off the cock now, remember?
― goole, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
jd otm
― brandon softerserve (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
interesting how this guy helped enforce Florida's gay adoption ban, 'cos it could lead to "sexual abuse of an adolescent male foster child by that homosexual"; adopts a 16 yr old boy himself, and then has sex with a rent boy that is barely a few yrs older than that. Sooooo hypocritical.
― nevermind312, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Going down fighting. As it were.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
lolling hardcore at "teensextoday.com"
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
this slanderous article
fightin' words!
― goole, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
and we'll probably never really know how it works since none of these dudes has the self-possession to give an honest account of their life, inner or outer.
http://rgr-static1.tangentlabs.co.uk/media/9781400047284/blinded-by-the-right-the-conscience-of-an-ex-conservative.jpg
― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
oh right, forgot about that dude.
― goole, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
and gram the one-eyed snake
― am0n, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link
his research contributions on child gender identity disorder.
WTF
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/05/06/alg_abs_rekers_inset.jpg
lol
― am0n, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFo8NGO4nTA
― am0n, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Contrary to Internet stories based on this slanderous article, following medical advice Professor George Rekers requires an assistant to lift his luggage in his travels because of an ongoing condition following surgery.
As documented in this photo... er...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/06/article-1273778-09741145000005DC-475_468x357.jpg
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 6 May 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
What's worse is this guy was in Europe. Is he also secretly a socialist who hates America?
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
one thing's for sure: whether it's to talk or keep quiet, the kid's going to end up getting paid a lot more for his week in europe than he planned
oh look, new hilarious update at professorgeorge.com (boldface his):
Dr. Rekers found his recent travel assistant by interviewing different people who might be able to help, and did not even find out about his travel assistant’s Internet advertisements offering prostitution activity until after the trip was in progress. There was nothing inappropriate with this relationship.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
"I need a stenographer."
"A stenographer?"
"...yeah."
"Huh."
"Wait, no, an ostler."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Y1mFTNU2c
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
"I need a stenographer... for my COCK."
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
"Monster.com, just what I needed!"
...
"Wait, this isn't about...um..."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Elsewhere:
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/05/video_stephen_colbert_names_ge.php
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
'Lifting luggage' = 'naked body rubs'. One for urbandictionary.com, then.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
New Times spent more than three hours with Lucien in the wee hours of Thursday morning. Check back this afternoon for stories detailing the trip, the document Rekers asked Lucien to prepare in the hopes of preventing any future disclosures, and a character sketch of what we think is a brave kid -- one who dawdled for less than 24 hours before opting to tell an exceptionally painful story.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
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He is proving how much he likes america by only renting american boys rather than giving into free socialised european boys.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
how much luggage does one teen sex specialist need??
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
those are the bags the various pieces of his cut-up body were to be secreted in
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Carefully phrased.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
one does what one can
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
okay that sentence really pivots on how you interpret 'secreted'
― vike me down (dyao), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
And pronounce it...
― Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont mind these guys bc they make it really easy to b. all "lol u homo-repressive hate internaliser" to homophobes
― plax (ico), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
they'd be easier to not mind if they also didn't work so hard to make so many people's lives miserable
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
misery loves company, tho
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes it even rents it
― am0n, Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
well played
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
ike constantly policing yourself to never, ever for a second contemplate who you might really be, what your real feelings are, what kind of life you'd actually like to lead; never share with anybody how and who you are; construct an entire life toward trying to strike the pose of being the sort of person you think of as good, as opposed to the sort of person you make a point of painting publicly as sick or narcissistic or sinful, which is actually just you talking about how you feel about yourself
i thought this was just called "being alive"
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:35 (Yesterday)
i know you're joking or doing your ilx "thing" but that just makes your sad bullshit disgusting bullshit.
― Matt P, Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Man I know this is extremely touchy-feely territory & I can also get into the schadenfreude of hateful hypocrites getting their comeuppance for sure, but amidst that feeling when this sort of thing happens I usually also feel a terrible sadness.
I mean, fuck these guys for all the harm they do, but that they spend most of their lives in this prison of shame is tragic to me. getting all the way to old age without ever allowing yourself the chance to be who you are without hiding it? having a whole family to whom you can only show part of yourself? that is so sad, what a sad world.
― brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, May 5, 2010 9:20 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
to go back to this for a second. j0hn's post got me thinking about compassion and politics in this case. j0hn's point is totally sound but i find i just have a limited amount of mercy for guys like this. a lot of people are self-hating for any number of reasons but very few make a whole damn career out of it, which j0hn also said.
rekers himself was the one who chose to be a public face of anti-gay politics, is it right then to judge him as such, rather than as a broken-down guy with a twisted life? i know you must be miserable, dr. rekers, but by ye fruits (lol) we shall know you, so fuck you -- is that fair?
putting on my scolding PC hat, i have to say i'm a little uneasy with the rent-boy punchlines, lolsy as they are. give a thought to Lucien the whore. it's not an easy life.
― goole, Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think any of them have (intentionally) been at Lucien's expense.
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
there's more homophobia in media rentboy jokes than reker's entire career
― Matt P, Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
can i see your math on that?
― goole, Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
In London, those now loiter on the half-dead part of Oxford Street by Centre Point, if dude is willing to go free-range.
― sharia twain (suzy), Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
lol that was phrased in a challopy way, sorry. i just don't think that the secret-gay's anti-gay career affects society at large or gay people nearly as much as omnipresent assumptions and stereotypes about hot man sex or whatever do, even if they appear to be relatively harmless and played for laughs, and that valuing person x's bad, bad public career against the dysfunctionality of their personal lives in order to feel good about condemning something is such a red herring. i mean, i'm not the one who's comparing ethical sums here! x-post
― Matt P, Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm afraid i don't understand what you mean there.
what i said was, yes, i made a judgement, but then wondered if the judgement is fair, and wondered if the public/private split really matters
― goole, Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Dear Matt P: No
The rentboy lulz I've seen don't seem any more specifically homophobic than the Ashley Dupré lulz tbh. Whereas...
During a presentation on research conducted by George A. Rekers, professor of Neuropsychiatry and Behavioral Science at the University of South Carolina, the presenters noted that “boys and girls adopted by lesbian and homosexual couples show a greater level of stress than that which is already generated by their status as orphans or children abandoned by their biological parents.” They added that this situation “produces diverse trauma and behavioral disorders that can even lead to suicidal tendencies or attempts.” “According to various studies containing testimonies from children of homosexual parents, most them of admit to suffering strong emotions, such as fear, anxiety, apprehension, shame and anger in trying to hide from their friends and relatives the homosexuality of their father or mother,” they continued.http://www.calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=ab3efae8-b9bf-4269-828b-13604acaa059
“According to various studies containing testimonies from children of homosexual parents, most them of admit to suffering strong emotions, such as fear, anxiety, apprehension, shame and anger in trying to hide from their friends and relatives the homosexuality of their father or mother,” they continued.
http://www.calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=ab3efae8-b9bf-4269-828b-13604acaa059
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, then i agree with you. i get annoyed by the schadenfreude in instances like this and i'm trying to articulate why. not arguing w/ anyone per se. it might sound like it just cuz it bugs me.
x-post ok, i was waiting for someone to give an example! the guy can go fuck himself obviously. but i still think there's a better way to deal w/ the damage of "research" like that than to hang the author for being a fuck-up. i think it's good to know to clear the air for some, but it doesn't really change any opinions imo, or self-opinions. it's not like it has to. but when people think it's more important than it is or proves something that it doesn't -- not thinking of anyone here -- then it's annoying and wrong imo
― Matt P, Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I think I might get what you're saying. More or less homophobia, I don't know, but whereas Reker's homophobia is considered unacceptable, it seems pretty OK to mock the hustler boy and whatever you imagine he did with Reker.
― fabulous mussels (Jesse), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
One of my best friends just told me he went out on a date with "Lucien" last year.
― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
date or "date"?
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link