Girls - What Does "Romance" Mean To You?

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"the person in the thread question" is masonic boom!!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i meant the person she was referring to

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It seems like the two people she mentioned were using it in a pretty straightforward way, but I dunno - I'm not even sure what we're talking about any more.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Not being a woman, I really shouldn't respond, but as a romantic this seems like crap.

It's easy to get stuck in a routine when in a relationship, and believe that it's just the natural order to live with someone, sleep with them, do social actitivies together, etc. Romance is when one person recognizes that there's something special about the person he or she is with and reaches above that routine to express it to the other, who is hopefully also jolted out of the routine and happier for it.

Could be anything from something that's said in passing that betrays a deep understanding of your s.o. that no one else has to a fancy dinner or present.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Romance is someone buying me some KFC for chrisesakes.

Abbott (Abbott), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

are you flava flav?

. . .and a soda on the side (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Romance is when one person recognizes that there's something special about the person he or she is with and reaches above that routine to express it to the other, who is hopefully also jolted out of the routine and happier for it.

i.e. anal

Fluffy Bear, among 100% of the population (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want any "jolting out" during that particular expression of romance. Yikes.

Abbott (Abbott), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

a friend once said that what she wanted was To Be Taken Care Of

This is about 75% my worst nightmare and 25% what I want. (Which I suppose makes sense.)

Romance is when one person recognizes that there's something special about the person he or she is with and reaches above that routine to express it to the other, who is hopefully also jolted out of the routine and happier for it.

This is completely OTM -- or at least, anyone who I'd ever want to be with would see things this way.

And I don't think anyone's out of line in pointing out that it's very easy for it to seem like the burden of "acting romantic" is primarily on men, and that it can seem tied to having to spend $$$. The gender studies angle there is obvious. But as has been pointed out, I don't think most people here are in the "diamonds-are-forever" crowd, so pointing it out is probably a little redundant.

lurker #2421, inc. (lurker-2421), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a lot of pointing out in that last paragraph. To make up for it, here's a picture of a (creepy stuffed animal of a) rabbit dressed up like a dentist:

http://www.openplease.com/cat-images-lg/FF967.jpg

lurker #2421, inc. (lurker-2421), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I find blatant romance embarrassing and nauseating, probably because I dislike being centre of attention. However, actions which are not obviously or traditionally romantic can be moving and bring you closer to that person - i.e. if they're performed in a way that is not making a statement like THIS IS ROMANTIC

These actions usually just subtly indicate thoughtfulness - even just asking if you would like a cup of tea and then making it for you after a long day, or taping a programme they thought you might enjoy. The everyday sensitivities to what you are like, rather than a SPECIAL OCCASION, MUST BE BRILLIANT, which can seem kind of forced, especially if this is NOT what you are like. Of course, this is a personal p.o.v so feel free to disregard/challenge it.

salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.walkenworks.com/eastercontinental.jpg

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 12 October 2006 04:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, your wife is a SOUTHERN BELLE. I'm almost positive the rules are different down there.

i'm a born-n-bred yankee and i like the trad romance crap too (creative expressions of it, anyway). guys never think i do because i'm all tomboyish or whatever, but i spend so little time caring about my gender in my day-to-day life that i actually do enjoy some sort of acknowledgment that i'm female.

a portal to squee heaven (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 October 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Thing is, Mary, yes, I agree, that a lot of those things are "just the stuff that successful relationships are made of".

The thing is, in today's blah blah disposable, past-paced, over-mediated, hypersexual culture, where there seems to be no such thing as a straightforward "Relationship" any more, and everybody is getting bent out of shape about noyfriends, fuckbuddies, friends with benefits, NSA, and all the other shades of "let's pretend we're not in a Relationship" - I think that it is perfectly fair to come out and say, at the beginning of a relationship "I am interested in ROMANCE" and mean - I want all that nice stuff that successful relationships are made of, not some quasi-relationship Noyfriend.

But that is 100% *MY* interpretation, of the sort of thing *I* would say if I were to start dating again. And nothing to do with the woman in the question.

Three In A Bed Socks Romp (kate), Thursday, 12 October 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

This has been said in various ways on this thread already I know, but I think I have two concepts of 'romance' in my head. 1) better defined as 'thoughfulness' perhaps - it's the private personal things which wouldn't look especially romantic to the rest of the world but just prove that I have, at some point, been listened to and my needs understood. 2) gestures which I appreciate almost BECAUSE the rest of the world will 'get' them. It's really shallow, but sometimes I do want to be able to show off about my relationship, to make people go 'awww', to feel like I'm in a movie. Even if the gesture (flowers, minibreaks (ha like we ever have those), chocolates, jewellery etc) don't mean anything to my private self, they do to my public one.

But if I had to choose I'd go for number 1 every time.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that it is perfectly fair to come out and say, at the beginning of a relationship "I am interested in ROMANCE"

but when you use 'romance' in that fashion, isn't what you're really saying that you want something better than nothing? 'a little romance', or even the pretense of romance? and doesn't it diminish the concept to use it in that fashion?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

The thing is, in today's blah blah disposable, past-paced, over-mediated, hypersexual culture, where there seems to be no such thing as a straightforward "Relationship" any more, and everybody is getting bent out of shape about noyfriends, fuckbuddies, friends with benefits, NSA, and all the other shades of "let's pretend we're not in a Relationship" - I think that it is perfectly fair to come out and say, at the beginning of a relationship "I am interested in ROMANCE" and mean - I want all that nice stuff that successful relationships are made of, not some quasi-relationship Noyfriend.

One thing I like about the social circles I move in is that everyone is very upfront about what they want right from the start. They might change their mind occasionally about what sort of person they're looking for (I know I have), but they always make it very clear what they do and don't want.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link


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