American Beauty - I'm a fucking dumbass

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i have a european PAL version that i (downloaded)

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I loved Fargo.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't Larry Clark sock someone in the jaw at a banquet who was going to release it here?

Yes, at the London Film festival.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

My bad, it was the UK distributor:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A872057

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I am very pleased that someone else likes Buffalo '66.

i like it, too. when he buys her the heart cookie from dunkin' donuts? aw, shit.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Buffalo 66 is good here.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

and i'm dying to see the brown bunny too.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i like it, too. when he buys her the heart cookie from dunkin' donuts? aw, shit.

EXACTLY

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope Gear's roommate doesn't think this too.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

is that a heart cookie? did you make that?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

someone said the trailer for Buffalo 66 is amazing. i haven't seen it.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

it's nothing the movie doesn't have in it

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I seem to remember it being a rapid-fire succession of stills from the movie, intercut with title cards (black text on white) and accompanied by the Yes song "Heart of the Sunrise." Classic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I linked to it on a thread somewhere. It has Jackson C Frank playing over it.

xpost that's different from the one I linked to. It had Jackson C Frank playing and some scenes from the movie playing in split screen.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I could be wrong, too! This is all based on my memory of those heady days of 1998!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

anyway american beauty is dumb

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

as dear as buffalo 66 is to me, i have no desire to see the brown bunny.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Japanese trailer?

The track is "Milk And Honey", now I remember.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Mmmmmmm, grain.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Mmmm, wmv's turnin' into ASCII bullshit on my iMac.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

no picture only sound on my mac. hmmmph.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Update your Windows Media Players!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

yessir!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

a lovely trailer indeed (though i was actually talking about the Buffallo 66 one earlier).

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

@d@ml my roommate doesn't really watch movies unless they're currently trendy so therefore it's all about Eternal Sunshine and Lost In Translation

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Happiness is bollox, BUT 'Storytelling' DOES contain an amusing AB piss-take.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought it was more of an american movie piss-take.

the neighbor from american movie is IN storytelling and the name of his movie is AMERICAN SCOOBY.

i think you are wrong, sir.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay -- but it DOES have the bit about the plastic bag yes, which would refer to AB?

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

ok, FINE.

but the whole idea of making a "serious" documentary about a subject to later turn it into an exercise of ridicule and laughter is the essence of the american movie/american scooby parallel.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

so much beauty....*sniff*....sex me up plz
http://www.exuberance.com/photo/2002-05-beach-litter/img/17.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

should have been an other music bag.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoa, Brown Bunny looks like it could be amazing or complete crap, no room in between.

Every time I hear about that "plastic in the wind" thing it reminds me of how much that character was just some bullshitting corny indie fucker trying to get laid with some false sincerity and DV cam shots of a Rite Aid bag.
Which is quite the metaphor for the movie itself. (And it worked, Sam Mendes is married to Kate Winslet)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Going WAY back to the original thread question, wouldn't the fact that the wife is still walking up to the house when the gunshot goes off a clue as to who killed Kevin Spacey (let alone the aforementioned scene with the neighbor frantically scrubbing blood off of himself ect ect)?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

His neighbor. Idiot.
-- Allyzay (whydoyouthin...), June 9th, 2004. (later)

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

eek. ALlyzay's email address got cut off:

whydoyouthink@hewascoveredinblood.com

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

let alone the aforementioned scene with the neighbor frantically scrubbing blood off of himself

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

DON'T RAIN ON MY DOGPILE

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

no no you're all wrong, the wife did it, the neighbor just happened to bump into a freshly painted barn on the way back home

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

ect ect? bad dan!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

ect ect ect

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

(aka "Things what I haff stolen off thee infinite STARRY SARAH")

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i should have known.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

there was some janet maslin article once upon a time that ended a review with a comment like "has even more alienation than [x, some film that had opened recently]!" like it was some kind of sweepstakes.

"yi yi" is utterly remarkable, though.

i don't think "american beauty" is terribly made at all. it's not terribly imaginative, but much more than competent. but i found the compacency and confusion of the screenplay very hard to take, and i uterrly loathe kevin spacey's acting.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

"acting"

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

no, it's acting. and i suppose given a certain kind of role, one that dovetails with his tendency for telegraphing his own phoniness, he could shine. but i've yet to see him in such a role.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I know it's a Film Studies 101er but 'Usual Suspects' calls on that, as does 'LA Confidential'.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Enrique OTM.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

& Glengarry Glen Ross (where he is slightly more understated than usual).

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

oh yeah, i forgot about those movies. although "usual suspects" was naff, the other two were good and made much better use of spacey than "american beauty," where his phony routine seemed really misplaced.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

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