I watched season 2 in a short block of a few days and I'm kind of hazy on a lot of it but has this season really just taken this whole show to the next level or what?
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Monday, 3 May 2010 12:43 (sixteen years ago)
it feels like i guess a lot of big shit has gone down...after a lot of pieces being put in place.
i'm guessing now the cops go wild on hank's operation now that two people tried to kill him, obv he's on the right track etc.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 3 May 2010 12:44 (sixteen years ago)
xp - stop reading this thread & find out for yrself ;)
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Monday, 3 May 2010 12:54 (sixteen years ago)
oh I'm all caught up I was just wondering if this season just seems a lot more awesome than season 2 because I wasn't paying attention enough.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Monday, 3 May 2010 13:11 (sixteen years ago)
So now Hank & his boss'll think Jesse was behind the whole thing: declines to press charges, decides to call the twins instead
― too dancy, rocking, jazzy, funky or american (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, May 3, 2010 12:03 AM
ehh i dunno, i think they'll connect them to tuco and realize its from that. jesse's too small-time to call in something like that. also i thought the phone call to hank was the bald guy that works for gus, since he's known for tailing people
― am0n, Monday, 3 May 2010 13:17 (sixteen years ago)
megalollin' @
― Sandwiches That You Will Like.(2002).XviD.torrent (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, May 3, 2010 1:14 AM
haha as soon as they showed that chart i knew there'd be a closeup of that guy
― am0n, Monday, 3 May 2010 13:28 (sixteen years ago)
they might make the twin's connection to Tuco, but i'm not convinced they won't assume it had something to do with Jesse aswell.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 3 May 2010 13:58 (sixteen years ago)
the first four eps or so have been all setup and not that great but damn when it got its tires on the ground it got ROLLIN
― i never promised you a whinegarten (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 May 2010 15:02 (sixteen years ago)
ehh i dunno, i think they'll connect them to tuco and realize its from that
my guess is that this will lead the cops/DEA to connect the dots to the murder house from last ep &, if not to some direct info on Walt (they were stalking him, after all, & prob kept notes of some kind, however cryptic), at least back to the crude "Heisenberg" sketch & this will finally put Walt on their radar? Much to their credit tho & already noted in this thread is the writer's knack for thwarting conventions & mixing the pacing up in unexpected & original ways.
I think someone mentioned this as well, but another thing I've really grown to appreciate abt. this series is how rarely the writers have employed the narrative crutch of cliffhanger endings, or at least particularly gimmicky ones. I'm a sucker for that stuff, admittedly, but you know that any series of this stripe, even the good ones, would have had the last couple eps end five minutes or so earlier than the BB guys did. Like if the last ep ended w/ Hank in the parking lot waiting for the warrant to be served, or if this last one had ended on Hank counting down one minute on his car display. The tension is thick enough, naturally, w/o having to rely on such devices & if they had done so OMG the wait week to week would be fucking UNBEARABLE.
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Monday, 3 May 2010 17:49 (sixteen years ago)
this show is fuckin boss
props 2 u gukbe
― cozen, Monday, 3 May 2010 18:03 (sixteen years ago)
I'm surprised nobody brought this up, and I'm fully prepared to be jumped on for this statement, but a big downer for me is that the women characters in the show seem to be really badly or aggravatingly written. Skyler in particular, while perfectly acted, is this archetypal wifely shrew and foil who I dread seeing every time she comes on screen.
love that they're starting to address this and skyler's sanctimoniousness this season through her relationship w/ted
― cozen, Monday, 3 May 2010 18:14 (sixteen years ago)
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― iiiijjjj, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 00:47 (sixteen years ago)
Does anyone know how many episodes are in this season?
Hard to belive they've only aired seven considering how much has happened in a condensed amount of time.
― Darin, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 04:26 (sixteen years ago)
Six more, 13 in total.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 04:28 (sixteen years ago)
Amazing episode (esp. the end) but I'm finding Jesse's petulance a little hard to take frankly.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 15:31 (sixteen years ago)
Hank is my favorite character on the show now btw. I was kind of sad when I thought he might die.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 15:48 (sixteen years ago)
yea, i feel like jesse's dialogue has been a little ott lately. minor gripe though, i mean this episode holy shit! hank has really become the center of everything, which is cool shift in focus.
in the av club review they said that in the opening flashback the twins' uncle was talking to gus on the phone, referring to him as a south american and "generalissimo" - you guys get all that? i remember the line about not trusting south americans but i must've been zoning out on the other details.
― second toughest in the internets (another al3x), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 16:08 (sixteen years ago)
he was speaking unfavorably about him with someone else i think? something like "some cook he is, more like fry cook." and then something else about how dirty south americans are.
― iiiijjjj, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah I got that too.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 17:05 (sixteen years ago)
ahhh that makes more sense
― second toughest in the internets (another al3x), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)
"yea, i feel like jesse's dialogue has been a little ott lately."
I can't tell if they are setting up Jesse as having a death wish or just imply that he's too stupid to realize that's the natural consequence of his threats.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 17:15 (sixteen years ago)
it's got to be a bit of both, like when they have that great dead serious monologue about how he's going to get Hank, but throw in some Jesse-isms like "I will haunt his crusty ass FOREVER"
― Nhex, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 18:13 (sixteen years ago)
Jesse has always been the herald of head-up-your-ass petulant peter pan punkitude. Losing cute chick just added a great deal of self-pity to the mix.
― i never promised you a whinegarten (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 23:55 (sixteen years ago)
What I found weird about his rant was his saying walt had ruined his life etc. Like...seems he had nothing pre walt, now still has nothing but also is clean. He wouldn't have even met jane if it wasn't for walt!
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 07:35 (sixteen years ago)
holy shit!― Nhex, Monday, 3 May 2010 03:05 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink^ what he said― iiiijjjj, Monday, 3 May 2010 03:11 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Nhex, Monday, 3 May 2010 03:05 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^ what he said
― iiiijjjj, Monday, 3 May 2010 03:11 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
that is literally what i said to the tv. "holy shit!" that came after several bits of advice to hank while he was in the car. he didn't seem to hear me.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 09:01 (sixteen years ago)
and i love how like 10 seconds before he's like "hey marie. you know what, i got a feeling things might be OK!"
cannot even imagine what skyler's going to make of all this. surely she'll suspect that walt has somehow led this violence to hank (and she'd be right).
if hank lives or dies, he'll be a hero. defended himself against and ultimately took out two high-ranking Mexican cartel members? looks like he was on the right track all along. and the department was ready to suspend him for whaling on some street-level meth punk? please. they'll be handing him back his gun on their hands and knees. but what about his fucking head? if he lives, how does this not unravel him even further?
that scene with him and marie on the bed was fucking amazing.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 09:35 (sixteen years ago)
it also occurs to me that this is exactly why the mexican cartels had an admonition against hitting DEA agents. it was Gus who said the rules could be bent. will he be blamed?
regardless, if the cartel was mad at Hank before, they're going to be a weensy bitter madder at him now (or at least Tio will be)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 10:23 (sixteen years ago)
laughed out loud at Saul, saying wearily, "There's no honor among thieves..
Except us of course! Heh!"
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 10:41 (sixteen years ago)
saul is the greatest.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:51 (sixteen years ago)
i thought the scene when Hank looses it in the elevator was def the highlight.
and Walt having to answer for what happened to Hank; never even entered my mind. that could... complicate things.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:53 (sixteen years ago)
Bob Odenkirk was born to play Saul, I think. It's the only role I've really loved him in.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:32 (sixteen years ago)
he's sort of like a real-life Simpsons character in this.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:33 (sixteen years ago)
Totally Lionel Hutz lol.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:41 (sixteen years ago)
yea, i feel like jesse's dialogue has been a little ott lately.
― second toughest in the internets (another al3x), Tuesday, May 4, 2010 12:08 PM
his rant about what he's going to do to hank was so poorly done
― am0n, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)
yes, let's forget that speech happened.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:32 (sixteen years ago)
i think they went ott there to give an airtight excuse for walt to work with jesse again. walt can handle anything if it's thrown at him in the moment, but he has zero tolerance for premeditated action.
― i never promised you a whinegarten (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah but the airtight excuse was that Jesse was going to roll on him. The crawling out of the jungle and popping a lawsuit on Hank's ass thing was just poorly written/acted.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:54 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, I thought both of his monologues were a bit overdone, like they felt the need to overcompensate for his being bedridden all episode
― too dancy, rocking, jazzy, funky or american (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:08 (sixteen years ago)
i thought it was ok.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:23 (sixteen years ago)
i agree with what Nhex said. it's Jesse trying to sound very dramatic and serious but falling short because, well, he's Jesse Pinkman.
he must have been feeling pretty helpless in the hospital after what he'd been through, and i'd imagine he was making a bid to be taken seriously. but he's not exactly the best orator the world has known.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:25 (sixteen years ago)
^exactly! Paul nailed the mix pretty much perfectly.
Also, the second speech WAS pretty righteous - Jesse in his Cap'n Cook days didn't have people constantly trying to kill him, he wasn't being put in the hospital after being severely beaten because of Walt (this is the second time!), he was just a small fry and likely would've continued to be a petty criminal cooking chili meth. He had no Scarface aspirations until Walt showed up. True, at least he's clean now, but he's also closer than ever to getting killed by cartel goons and going to jail for decades.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:38 (sixteen years ago)
i was fine with the second speech. The first one just was so longgggggggg. We get it, you're gonna make things tough on Hank.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 22:08 (sixteen years ago)
and his crusty ass.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 22:19 (sixteen years ago)
just rewatching this. agree with too long on the first speech. i see the reasoning about jesse overdoing it for a reason, savoring the upper hand and all. i could maybe even see the dialogue working with a different delivery -- i just didn't buy it. if anything he was too verbose and collected. odenkirk's reaction was perfect though!
loved walt countering skyler's "hank's your family" line with "not currently." and i also learned that women who like to get peed on are always from the warmer climates.
― second toughest in the internets (another al3x), Thursday, 6 May 2010 03:49 (sixteen years ago)
man sometimes i forget the subtext for pretty much every conversation walt has had with jesse this season is letting jane die. i wonder if jesse will ever find out. watch your crusty ass, walt.
― second toughest in the internets (another al3x), Thursday, 6 May 2010 03:58 (sixteen years ago)
i hope jesse, hank, and the surviving twin don't all end up in the hospital together next ep. but then i kinda do
― second toughest in the internets (another al3x), Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:03 (sixteen years ago)
one problem I wondered about is the logistics of jesse cooking at Gus's meth HQ. Surely he'll be tailed by the DEA at all times? And if they follow him to the HQ, they're bound to see Walt and connect them both to Gus.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:10 (sixteen years ago)
surviving twin - ??
Assuming you're not talking about the dude whose cranium we were treated to an overhead interior shot of, you must be referring to the one whose torso was basically sectioned in half by Hank's truck? I can't see him walking away from that, unless, of course, you know something I don't..
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:13 (sixteen years ago)
He probably knows that the preview for next week's ep shows the surviving twin with menacing glare ripping out his IV.
― keythhtyek, Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:32 (sixteen years ago)
that was driving me nuts, I couldn't remember where I'd seen the gun seller before: he's one of the creepy twins from Always Sunny in Philadelphia!
― i never promised you a whinegarten (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:37 (sixteen years ago)