"I am not racist, I don't associate myself with racists. In fact their are some African American's, who if they ran I would be more than happy to vote for. Victor David Hanson, Thomas Sowell, and even Condi Rice and shes a woman to boot! In hindsight, I can see your point on the racist thing, their is that little part about his church which preaches black advancement... blah blah blah, their is some truth to that part, but that wasn't what I was trying to shed light on.
the main points I was trying to point out are his refusal to say the pledge of elegance. I, not being a religious person can understand not wanting to say the "one nation under god" part, how ever I understand what that actually means: "we are one unified nation under a banner of common beliefs and principals". In my opinion if the president of the united states is not willing to "pledge" his "allegiance" to all of our common principals and beliefs, then he has absolutely no right to lead us.
He flies the America flag equal to the flag of Che Guevara. First off you show respect for your country by flying your flag the highest, above, greater then, etc, to all other flags. But thats not even the worst part. He flies it equal to a flag of Che. That red star on his bouree that most of the time looks like an x, is the Red Communist Star. He was a socialist gurella who deprived countless people of their freedom by forcing them into the bondage of communism. Communism is actually the exact opposite of Freedom. There, government is your god. You are nothing but a small, insignificant robot, you are told where and when to work, at your job that is assigned by your government. Tell me if these ideals should be close to the ours? I don't understand how Che, with all he stands for, can be idolized by todays young and left. The whole mantra of the young hippie movement who put him atop this pedestal was in stark opposition to the real man. Che to them was a rebel, who fought against the the social norm that our last few generations have taken all too for granted. But at the end of the day weren't the hippies all about peace and love an d freedom? I would love to see a bunch of Hippies be confronted by their masonic leader Che, he would probably have killed them just the same."
― Jordan, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Victor David Hanson
Michael Eric Dyson?
― Kerm, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Miles Bennett Dyson?
― Kerm, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link
lol democrat = clumsy mutherfucker
“White people are weary of the kinds of black people who are dedicated to indicting whites as racists. So, to be ‘too black’ is to carry an air about you that whites have something to answer for.”
"Our data suggest that such resistance is not because white Americans are mean and uncaring, morally bankrupt or ethically flawed," adds Dr. Mahzarin R. Banaji, a professor of social ethics at Harvard University. "White Americans suffer from a glaring ignorance about what it means to live as a black American."
― Lamp, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link
challops truth bomb overlap
― deej, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link
let's write the pledge of elegance
― tremendoid, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link
That experiment -- in which whites had to say how much money they'd want in exchange for being black for the rest of their lives -- strikes me as totally bonkers. The subjects gave low numbers, so the experimenters say they're underestimating black hardship. But I'd think there'd be a strong bias against giving a high number since that so easily sounds racist, i.e. "You'd have to give me a million dollars, buddy!"
― Charlie Rose Nylund, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link
-- deej, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:49 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
challops truth bomb cocktail?
challuthito
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link
challotov cocktail
― and what, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I am the Wonder Mike and I'd like to say hello to the black to the white the red and the brown the purple and yellow
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link
To whom it may concern, There has been alot of canceling god going around lately. Why? Because some people are offened or get offened when the name of god is spoken. Well I have to say that I get offended when, after all of my life, of praying and talking to my god , who I might add has answered alot of prayer's for me, that someone can all of a sudden think that it's o.k. for them to, just because they don't have the same beleif's as I do
that my children can't say the pledge of elegance in class ,the way I did and many of generations
before us did. And I should'nt say merry christmas any more because it's not exceptible any more,
now I hear that they want to take televised church off of television, along with all christmas programs . Well I'd like to know how long it's going to be before we are told we have to close our churches or our
children are not aloud to attend sunday school.
― tremendoid, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link
She should pray for a dictionary
― Trayce, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Isn't that kind of the point though, Charlie? As part of the study white participants were asked to put a dollar value on living as a minority member of a fictional society and the necessary pay-off was much higher than what was deemed the trade-off to live as a black American. Whether or not people underestimated the cost of living as black person due to social pressure or because they legitimately felt that the cost of doing so was trivial it's still fucked up, no?
Sorry, seriously, I'm posting through a haze of alcohol and jet lag but the last paragraph I posted seemed to me be pretty apt.
― Lamp, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Right, but I'm saying my intuition is that many (most?) study participants would feel as much pressure to give a low number as a high one, because of the way the question was put to them. People tend to try to give the "right" answer, à la the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect">Bradley/Wilder effect</a>, and enough people are going to be motivated by that to render the results moot: a high number feels like a racist answer, so they give a low one. If you ask someone a question with a potential "gotcha" waiting in the wings, they're likely to triangulate based on what they think they're supposed to say -- and questions about race are the ultimate "gotcha", at least in the present era. So comparisons to a hypothetical become kind of bogus, because people aren't really giving authentic answers in the first place -- whereas of course the numbers go up when they give them a list of costs associated with being black, because then the prompt is clearly towards a high number.
Basically, I just think it's a poorly-conceived study, though its heart is in the right place.
― Charlie Rose Nylund, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 05:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Aww, crap.
I pledge elegance to the fags and the united reprobates of America reading Plato's Republic this bitch demands Zombie Nation not invisible to morans and bitters at all
― suzy, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 10 of about 11,000 for "are the real racists". (0.21 seconds)
― and what, Thursday, 24 July 2008 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI9OYMRwN1Q
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 24 July 2008 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link
this thread's about eggplants, right?
― gabbneb, Thursday, 24 July 2008 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "I am greatly concerned about having a convict in the office. And I do not care if that convict is white, black, Asian, German, or some kind of halfsy."
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 24 July 2008 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 3 of 3 for "everybody loves racists". (0.40 seconds)
― Aja, Thursday, 24 July 2008 04:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 2 of about 1 for "everybody hates racists". (0.32 seconds)
― Aja, Thursday, 24 July 2008 04:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Wait...Results 1-2 OF ABOUT 1????????????? WTF?
― Aja, Thursday, 24 July 2008 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 10 of about 108 for "i'm not trying to be racial".
Results 1 - 5 of 5 for "i'm not trying to be racial but".
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 August 2008 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071214030432AAODV1j
I'm not trying to be racial but have you ever seen? A white person so stoned he or she looked Asian? I have a friend that smokes weed so much he doesn't look like a white guy, he drives like this and I worry. How do I handle this? I'm not picking on Asian people it's just something I noticed.
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 August 2008 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 10 of about 21,000 for "asians can't drive"
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 August 2008 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~hhsu/2004/02/ah-chingy.html
― some dude, Thursday, 7 August 2008 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 1 of about 0 for "a white guy, he drives like this". (0.31 seconds)
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 7 August 2008 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Did you ever think that you would be the nigga on the block Didn't have to break a steerin column, didn't have to cook a rock A damn goodie two-shoes, that what they call ya Never judge a person or a book by it's covers Just because my tone is darker than yours, a little tanner You never took the time out, examine yourself boi .. are you black, white, asian? Indonesian, or Borean - that's black and Korean We on the same team if we breathin
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 7 August 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link
hey ethan you're a smart dude but i really think it's a character flaw that when someone calls you out, or at least makes it clear you misinterpreted somebody, you NEVER seem to apologize. you might sort of back off which is closet we're going to get. but it'd be nice if once and a while you wrote something akin to, "sorry dude. no offense."
obv i'm only talking about your "online persona' or whatever.
― amateurist, Friday, 8 August 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link
"I don't see color....BUT IT'S WITH AN ATTITUDE!"
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 9 August 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link
lol great thread title imo
― cankles, Saturday, 9 August 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
amt u got some nuts to try and call anyone out on their 'character flaws' u neurotic fuck
― cankles, Saturday, 9 August 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
oooh, this should start getting good real soon
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 9 August 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I say, if you play good paintball, who the **** cares if you're straight, gay, bi or alien. Being a team is being a team.
-- cutty, Monday, August 11, 2008 6:39 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
― Jordan, Monday, 11 August 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i think cutty was quoting one of the "gay+paintball" google search results 'and what'-style, w/ no italics or quotes.
― rockapads, Monday, 11 August 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i know
― Jordan, Monday, 11 August 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i thought that would be obvious
It was.
― HI DERE, Monday, 11 August 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Good work.
― nabisco, Monday, 11 August 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link
How do I handle this?
― max, Monday, 11 August 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Swiftly.
― nabisco, Monday, 11 August 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't care if you're a gay, black, paintballer, pizza is delicious
― gbx, Monday, 11 August 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't care if you're black, white, purple. There, I said it.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Monday, 11 August 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
There are two faults with this argument. First of all, when it came to musicians, Motown had no racial or gender bias. They were all faceless cogs to them. Regardless of whether they were black, white, female, male, or Martian, they weren't going to get any recognition-period! It was a star driven phenomena and the company never gave the slightest thought to publicizing background figures. In addition, the Motown studio band (which was called the Funk Brothers) was not exclusively black. Guitarists Joe Messina and Dennis Coffey, percussionist Jack Brokensha, arranger Dave Van dePitte, and bassist Bob Babbit, who also played quite a few important Motown dates, were all white.
― amateurist, Friday, 15 August 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell says a drowning man doesn't care what color the person is who throws him a life preserver.
"This election is going to be decided when a husband and wife sit at a kitchen table, or a single parent sits at the kitchen table, looks at their bills and figures out who is most likely to help them with their financial condition," Rendell said. "If the answer's Barack Obama, nobody's going to care whether he's black, green, orange, purple, fuchsia or whatever."
― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 10 October 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
fuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whateverfuchsia or whatever
haha
― sleep, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I saw that quote, too, PP. I think it's hilarious the way this election is about to be decided by racist, uneducated, homophobic, pro-life, pro-gun nitwits who suddenly and miraculously decide that when their own WALLETS are at stake, a black Democrat for president starts seeming like the best choice.
Much like the hardline economist neo-cons who have insisted at every turn that in order for the economy (and everything else) to function well, government has to stay out of things and who are now (surprise!) turning to the government to bail out a problem created by the unbridled free-market capitalism they praise so highly and so often. I've got half a mind to look up my Republifascist economics professor from the early 00's and ask him how he feels about government intervention NOW. Then kick him to the curb.
― Bimble, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
that's an awful reason to date someone, you cruel heartbreaker
― Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link