American Beauty - I'm a fucking dumbass

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Jon Waters edits at the Saul Zaentz Film Center in Berkeley. I wrote to them three or four times trying to work there.

John Waters
"All the people who work there are great. They completely work with you and understand every bit of pressure you’re under. They make me relax - that’s really hard to do because I’m a hyper person. I love Berkeley, the good restaurants. It’s away from prying eyes of Hollywood and New York. They do a great job, that’s all. I’ve just had a wonderful experience there. I look forward every time to coming to Berkeley."

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG Kyle and Adam in agreement about film SHOCKER

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Re Ken Park: Is there a U.S. distributor yet? Didn't Larry Clark sock someone in the jaw at a banquet who was going to release it here?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i have a european PAL version that i (downloaded)

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved Fargo.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't Larry Clark sock someone in the jaw at a banquet who was going to release it here?

Yes, at the London Film festival.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

My bad, it was the UK distributor:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A872057

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I am very pleased that someone else likes Buffalo '66.

i like it, too. when he buys her the heart cookie from dunkin' donuts? aw, shit.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Buffalo 66 is good here.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

and i'm dying to see the brown bunny too.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i like it, too. when he buys her the heart cookie from dunkin' donuts? aw, shit.

EXACTLY

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope Gear's roommate doesn't think this too.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

is that a heart cookie? did you make that?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

someone said the trailer for Buffalo 66 is amazing. i haven't seen it.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

it's nothing the movie doesn't have in it

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I seem to remember it being a rapid-fire succession of stills from the movie, intercut with title cards (black text on white) and accompanied by the Yes song "Heart of the Sunrise." Classic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I linked to it on a thread somewhere. It has Jackson C Frank playing over it.

xpost that's different from the one I linked to. It had Jackson C Frank playing and some scenes from the movie playing in split screen.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I could be wrong, too! This is all based on my memory of those heady days of 1998!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

anyway american beauty is dumb

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

as dear as buffalo 66 is to me, i have no desire to see the brown bunny.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Japanese trailer?

The track is "Milk And Honey", now I remember.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Mmmmmmm, grain.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Mmmm, wmv's turnin' into ASCII bullshit on my iMac.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

no picture only sound on my mac. hmmmph.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Update your Windows Media Players!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

yessir!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

a lovely trailer indeed (though i was actually talking about the Buffallo 66 one earlier).

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

@d@ml my roommate doesn't really watch movies unless they're currently trendy so therefore it's all about Eternal Sunshine and Lost In Translation

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Happiness is bollox, BUT 'Storytelling' DOES contain an amusing AB piss-take.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought it was more of an american movie piss-take.

the neighbor from american movie is IN storytelling and the name of his movie is AMERICAN SCOOBY.

i think you are wrong, sir.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay -- but it DOES have the bit about the plastic bag yes, which would refer to AB?

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

ok, FINE.

but the whole idea of making a "serious" documentary about a subject to later turn it into an exercise of ridicule and laughter is the essence of the american movie/american scooby parallel.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

so much beauty....*sniff*....sex me up plz
http://www.exuberance.com/photo/2002-05-beach-litter/img/17.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

should have been an other music bag.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoa, Brown Bunny looks like it could be amazing or complete crap, no room in between.

Every time I hear about that "plastic in the wind" thing it reminds me of how much that character was just some bullshitting corny indie fucker trying to get laid with some false sincerity and DV cam shots of a Rite Aid bag.
Which is quite the metaphor for the movie itself. (And it worked, Sam Mendes is married to Kate Winslet)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Going WAY back to the original thread question, wouldn't the fact that the wife is still walking up to the house when the gunshot goes off a clue as to who killed Kevin Spacey (let alone the aforementioned scene with the neighbor frantically scrubbing blood off of himself ect ect)?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

His neighbor. Idiot.
-- Allyzay (whydoyouthin...), June 9th, 2004. (later)

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

eek. ALlyzay's email address got cut off:

[email protected]

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

let alone the aforementioned scene with the neighbor frantically scrubbing blood off of himself

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

DON'T RAIN ON MY DOGPILE

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

no no you're all wrong, the wife did it, the neighbor just happened to bump into a freshly painted barn on the way back home

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

ect ect? bad dan!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

ect ect ect

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

(aka "Things what I haff stolen off thee infinite STARRY SARAH")

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i should have known.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

there was some janet maslin article once upon a time that ended a review with a comment like "has even more alienation than [x, some film that had opened recently]!" like it was some kind of sweepstakes.

"yi yi" is utterly remarkable, though.

i don't think "american beauty" is terribly made at all. it's not terribly imaginative, but much more than competent. but i found the compacency and confusion of the screenplay very hard to take, and i uterrly loathe kevin spacey's acting.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"acting"

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

no, it's acting. and i suppose given a certain kind of role, one that dovetails with his tendency for telegraphing his own phoniness, he could shine. but i've yet to see him in such a role.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I know it's a Film Studies 101er but 'Usual Suspects' calls on that, as does 'LA Confidential'.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

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