UK Watercooler 32: Fall Into The Meaning Gap

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bah to you and your fancy civilisation with its lunches.

Ed, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

How about curry in Sarf London next Wednesday? For dinner, obviously, as I shall be here during the day.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Depends on where exactly I am, I might be in Newbury.

Ed, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Bah! Well, maybe another night, but depends on rehearsal. I just know that Wednesdays will never be a rehearsal night because our drummer goes to Samuri School (don't ask) on Wednesdays.

But anyway, good luck getting the new job, Mark! I think looking up and seeing the Quaker Meeting House was definitely a Sign.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

our drummer goes to Samuri School (don't ask)

But I must, I must

Tom D., Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

good luck getting the new job

cheers. they just seemed so....nice.

going from an office of 250+ to an office of 8 would be weird tho.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a class where they teach you how to be a Samuri. Martial Arts, Swordplay and advanced Insulting Your Opponent's Honour. (You think I'm kidding about that last part, eh?)

If the people are nice, small offices are *so* much better.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

and advanced Insulting Your Opponent's Honour

Zing Fu?

Tom D., Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it's just kind of calling people names in Japanese. Japanese in a French accent is actually hilarious.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh. I just got that. Groan.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, great. My boss has just fucked off on holiday AGAIN until next Tuesday. Has gone without answer the question I asked him. The developers have fucked the database again and the copy I grabbed before it went down is flawed.

I swear to god, this is the most frustrating assignment I've ever been on. I have no idea what I'm doing here, or how I'm supposed to get on with my job.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 13 March 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

It's Friday. Is today going to be as long as every other day this week?

I have a sore throat and cramps.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Bouncy this morning, probably supplied by Dingers and a bacon sandwich.

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link

What is the opposite of bouncey?

Three weeks left on this project, and they've only gone and changed the basic structure of the database. What on earth am I supposed to do?

I need to put on some bouncey music or something. I didn't have time to dry my hair and I feel miserable.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Coldplay?

as in: I feel very coldplay this morning.

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link

sombre? cheerless? subdued? I fear, that there are no antonyms that do it a proper service in time and space. Deflated comes close but doesn't really cut it.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:31 (sixteen years ago) link

flat.

This is not cheering you up tho, is it?

Mark G, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm from Barcelona! That's what you need!

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Gah! For a minute I thought you were suggesting that I *listen* to Coldplay, which would probably have me jumping off the roof just to get away from it.

But yes, that is a good adjective for how I feel. Coldplay. Bored and boring and grey and flat and bland and deflated.

Today I am mainly hoping that 1) my boss 2) the developers and 3) Crystal Reports sales team answer my emails so that I have something to get on with.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I have been watching the Nathan Barley DVD I got back from Emsk and I think it is making me hate humanity.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 09:51 (sixteen years ago) link

La Dusseldorf was doing it for me this morning. Kerr, you will be pleased that I now have an iPod cable and will be loading your comp this weekend.

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I am now being cheered up by thinking about turbo-folk hating pacifist freegan bears.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I want to find out where this is:

http://home2.btconnect.com/smoke/Smoke11-334.jpg

I think this pic is great.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link

What pray is turbo folk? Does it involve Joseph Porter? If not, why not? (also interested in pacifist freegan bears, that sounds like some kind of kooky ultimate frisbee team)

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, I have that one! (Issue of Smoke.) It is indeed a great photo.

I sent an email to the developers, and it went all around the department, and finally came back from my boss - basically saying, sorry, the database is a work in progress, nothing is finalised, even the structure.

How can I build reports when the structure keeps changing?

This is like trying to paint the walls of a house when the foundations aren't even complete. We can talk about what colours they want to walls to be, but it's pointless to start painting until the walls are up and the studwork is on them.

And I'm supposed to be finished painting by the first week of April?

Ain't gonna happen.

And I HATE this job and don't want it to overrun. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Ed -

Bears that are good and bears that are bad

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:18 (sixteen years ago) link

have seen now. I have some turbo-folk, courtesy of ambrose, I will send over, not sure if you will like though. (A lot of it is ska-punk with lyrics like 'we go crazy, mental way' floating up through the unintelligible panoply of slavic shouting, I rather enjoy it, of course)

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Please don't YSI, I have no way of picking anything up at the moment.

:-(

I don't like shouting, I was more liking the idea of pretty ladysinging.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link

That pic: Somewhere on the north circular road, isn't it? Close to hangar Lane, or so...

Mark G, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:28 (sixteen years ago) link

...and now I have a headache as well as a sore throat. I'm going to be sick this weekend, aren't I?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Eat more curry. Knock that crap out of the park.

Did we not walk past the Smoke place during the Southall Marathon?

suzy, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I've just sent a long letter to my boss, basically saying "Dude, this is a 6-week contract, someone needs to pull their finger out."

This thing isn't even "going to go to QA" until the end of this month. When my contract ends on the 4th April.

I either need a completed, finalised database. Or else I need to be able to build queries to work around the datasets that keep shifting. I can't have the former, they won't give me permission to do the latter.

I can build a mockup in Access, but Access and Oracle handle certain data types (especialy Memo fields) in slightly different ways - so that any reports built off Access cannot just be hooked back up to Oracle - they will have to be rebuilt.

At this point, I don't even think it's gonna be a question of working 14 hour days in the beginning of April to get it all done (and have no time for testing.) It's just not going to happen within the time frame they've given me. And I don't want that on my head.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and I got a letter from the NG last night. I didn't get the job.

:-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/chris_hawkins/tracklisting.shtml

We got a play on BBC6 about 6.45 this morning (above) and a nice plug for tonight's gig. Anyone coming? Col Poo might be IIRC?

I'm not sure I like the sound of turbo-folk.

Dr.C, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I am probably going to be there.

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Bummer about the NG, however I have a sneakign suspicion that this contract is going to overrun, kate.

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post Yay Ed!! Bring friends!

Dr.C, Friday, 14 March 2008 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't *want* this contract to overrun. I hate it here. :-(

Being in this environment under these circumstances is making me really unhappy and emo. When I have nothing to do, my brain eats itself and goes emo. I cannot tolerate boredom.

I'm sorry, I feel too ill to go out tonight. I have a feeling tonight and tomorrow are going to be spent in bed.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Hi all, yes Doc I am coming tonight, I'll probably try and get there in time for I, Ludicrous - what time are they on again? They're one of those bands I've heard about for a long time and never heard.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 14 March 2008 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link

That Smoke pics near the northbound entrance to Blackwall Tunnel - you can see the Dome behind teh gasometer.

Bocken Social Scene, Friday, 14 March 2008 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Great! I, Lud are on at 8.45 ish. We're on 9.30ish.

Dr.C, Friday, 14 March 2008 11:42 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, I just made an interesting discovery. Music on MySpace works on my headphones. I wonder if that means I can use YouTube...!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link

test it out with e.mily's dancing ray, it will make you smile.

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, the first thing I can tell you is that lot up in the field who look like Coldplay, well, they sound like Ride. Which is not a bad thing, but, you know, there already was a Ride. Why would I want another band that sounds just like them?

I don't dislike them, I just don't see the point of them. If they insist on being a Ride tribute band, well... sorry, they're not as good looking as Ride, so why should I go and look at them? And if i'm not going to look at them play, I might as well stay home and listen to an actual Ride CD. Thanks.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5596171492898905314&hl=en-GB

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, it works! But I better not sit here watching videos. I can at least listen to MySpace while I build mine own, totally futile Access version of the DB in which I am able to build and save all the Queries that I like.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLqo77gQrxg

Go on, watch one^

Pashmina, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, it is lunch...

Second awesome discovery of the day, is the health food/vegetarian shop that Emsk reccomended does 3 curries for a fiver and have given me SO MUCH NUMMY FOOD I don't know how I'm going to eat it all.

yes I do - same way I eat carrot cake. WITH EXTREME HAPPINESS.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Ohmigod, Pash, that Busby Berkeley thing is psychedelic and wonderful, but also... WAAARRGGGH OHMIGOD, STALKERTASTIC - I'd be scared of anyone who felt that way about me.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I can go back and listen to all these bands that have randomly friended me! Some of them are bound to be awesome... score, already!

http://www.myspace.com/gypsyrock2323

Spanish girls in the garage type stuff with a psychedelic flamenco twist.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link


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