yeah the sheer number of mystery/sci-fi shows ABC is throwing at the wall right now (usually with at least one Lost cast member involved) is insane, and so far none of them seem remotely promising as long term prospects. i guess there'll be more possibilities in the fall, though.
― sipster cuppies (some dude), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 23:54 (sixteen years ago)
sorry blueski it was indeed the multiple posts that got me xp
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 23:55 (sixteen years ago)
Ilana blowing up was awesome, I totally laughed in amazement. Also just what this season needed. In fact why not blow up all their island locations so they can stop going back and forth between them.
Ben on pedo-watch and Desmond going for Locke was also A+++. However. I would like to complain that when Flocke went back after throwing Desmond down the paper mache well, he did not respond to Sayid's question about "How is Desmond" with the reply "Well", "Not very... well" or "Well.... he's OK".
Why tf is anyone still banging on about the alt being after the on-island stuff. The writers have subtly explained what's going on by having Hugo say to Libby HEY IT'S LIKE AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE, CRAZY HUH?
Whispering explanation was lame-o. And I'm one of the people who is hanging on for explanations. I think they put that one in as a warning that they clearly can't be arsed.
For some reason I'm convinced that lil mystery kid is Smokey's real form as a kid. And maybe we haven't seen his true human form yet (MIB possibly being another Locke-type-body-snatch).
― Not the real Village People, Thursday, 15 April 2010 00:03 (sixteen years ago)
Ilana was my all-time #1 Lost boo, i will miss her
― nu bay deejoning (some dude), Thursday, 15 April 2010 00:06 (sixteen years ago)
i have NO idea what kind of satisfying explanation people were expecting about the whispering, but then i never really thought that was remotely one of the more intriguing things in the show
― nu bay deejoning (some dude), Thursday, 15 April 2010 00:07 (sixteen years ago)
I forgot it was even a question.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 00:13 (sixteen years ago)
Oh btw was anyone else half-expecting Hurley to stab Flocke when he gave him the knife?
― Not the real Village People, Thursday, 15 April 2010 00:17 (sixteen years ago)
i don't consider the whispers reveal to be an explanation. it just raises a new, different question, which is what they've always done on lost.
― phantompenguin, Thursday, 15 April 2010 00:33 (sixteen years ago)
like, why can hurley talk to ghosts?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 15 April 2010 00:45 (sixteen years ago)
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― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Thursday, 15 April 2010 02:10 (sixteen years ago)
god, if only there were a large amount of flammable material on hand near or inside the plane! would make blowing it up 10x easier.
Ahhhhhh hah hah, so true
― Brakhage, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:33 (sixteen years ago)
As much as I regret the oversimplification of the narrative (re: Smokey is the ultimate evil/true Love is the connective tissue etc) I thought this episode dealt with those things well and was one of the better ones this season. Great ending and a couple of good LOLs--the afforementioned Desmond sunglass-tip is a move I wish I could replicate in real life, but my favorite was Michael's "That's not important right now!"...it seemed as if it was said in the spirit of a venerable tradition.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:28 (sixteen years ago)
I thought "That's not important right now!" was a shoutout to Airplane!, like the Costanza's Human Fund.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:37 (sixteen years ago)
haha i freaked out @ "the human fund"
― nu bay deejoning (some dude), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:25 (sixteen years ago)
Desmond was great in this episode, looks like real Desmond and alt-Desmond are the same person, or at least both of them can see the whole picture, which is why Smokey's so scared of him.
There's got to be some mad electromagnetic shit at the bottom of that well, right? Similar to the Swan or the Looking Glass.
I know this is par for the course with Lost by this point but Richard casually mentioning he KNOWS WHAT THE ISLAND IS and everyone else basically shrugging it off is some next-level ridiculous.
Are we going to get episodes for Miles and Lapidus do you reckon, or are they just wandering around waiting to be used as cannon fodder? Miles has got to be set for some kind of death scene involving Sawyer.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:25 (sixteen years ago)
Maybe this was mentioned already, but the little boy (Young Jacob) showing up when Smokey was w/ Desmond the same way he did when he was with Richard & Sawyer makes me think that Smokey isn't allowed to kill Desmond. But he's so nervous about him that he tries anyway.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:30 (sixteen years ago)
throwing desmond down the well seems like a really stupid move for mib though, since i'm guessing the well is one of the electromagnetic pockets like matt said and that's where widmore intended to put desmond in the first place
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:34 (sixteen years ago)
The donkey wheel's at the bottom of the well! So maybe he put him there intentionally.
Miles and Lapidus are just both way too cool with their personal issues at this point to survive the end of the show. Both characters definitely deserve better, though. They'll probably explode with Richard for no good reason.
― Nhex, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:36 (sixteen years ago)
we're sending our love down the well brother
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:39 (sixteen years ago)
the donkey wheel is at another well i think
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:40 (sixteen years ago)
miles still too useful as a story crutch to dispose of yet. maybe they can get him some weird time vortex where he reads the last thoughts of his own corpse, which freaks him out and kills him.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:42 (sixteen years ago)
Stones on the well looked really fake.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:42 (sixteen years ago)
I can't remember, was there a time lapse between the moment when island-Desmond told Widmore "sounds great! when do we start?" and when Sayid grabbed him? Like, a not-seen few minutes when Widmore could have given Des some vital information. I'm guessing that Desmond has new info that we don't know he has, and that Smokey doesn't know he has.
― millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:44 (sixteen years ago)
lol blueski
― conrad, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:46 (sixteen years ago)
yeah mib mentioned that there are several other wells if only to signal to the viewer that this isn't the donkey wheel well.
xp
― Clay, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:47 (sixteen years ago)
desmond's "sounds great! when do we start?" made it sound as though he understood the situation 100%
― conrad, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:48 (sixteen years ago)
Desmond is the only guy who knows exactly what's happening with the timelines, he's got way too much purpose about him not to know.
Yeah the donkey wheel is under one of the Dharma stations, although there was a well there before there was a Dharma station, as we saw Locke climb down it.
Desmond giving alt-Locke a near death experience would surely lead to some weird mindmeld/timeline leaking shit?
Bit of a waste of having Pierre Chang in this episode given that he surely would have recognised Hurley from the Dharma days?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:48 (sixteen years ago)
How come Pierre Chang doesn't age?
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:49 (sixteen years ago)
the last time he got magnetized, he saw the future -- maybe he saw the ending of the show and was cool with how it turned out, hence 'why bother being afraid?'
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:49 (sixteen years ago)
this is alt - pierre chang not in dharma either?
― conrad, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:50 (sixteen years ago)
or locke ending up on jacks surgery table will
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:54 (sixteen years ago)
in the last few seconds, when they focus on Locke's face, Locke looked like he saw the love of his life, which is "walking."
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:55 (sixteen years ago)
or else looked like he'd just been pushed out the window by his pops, which is also a kind of flash to have
― underwater, please (bear, bear, bear), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:00 (sixteen years ago)
Bit of a waste of having Pierre Chang in this episode given that he surely would have recognised Hurley from the Dharma days?this is alt - pierre chang not in dharma either?
yeah, no 815ers were ever on the island in altworld - all stuff involving them before the bomb was wiped out too
maybe horace will turn up again. would like to see phil too. and pickett (not really).
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:02 (sixteen years ago)
why didn't Des just get Locke to kiss Helen. maybe they don't really love each other :o
this is alt - jack kisses him on op table?
― conrad, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:06 (sixteen years ago)
I don't think this is true.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:09 (sixteen years ago)
this is alt - libby isn't even an 815er
― conrad, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:10 (sixteen years ago)
but the bomb was set off by 815ers!
time travel storyline be paradoxin'
― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:15 (sixteen years ago)
One thing is for sure, and it's that alt-Ben and alt-Ben's dad were in Dharma.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:16 (sixteen years ago)
yup
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:19 (sixteen years ago)
and they were on the island, and they left it at some unspecified point.
didn't faraday explain the goal of the bomb was to make it so they'd never end up on the island in the first place? (meaning once they set off the bomb, they don't have to set it off "again")
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:20 (sixteen years ago)
in the original reality yes. the alt reality is defined by them never having been on the island...the memories they awaken being from the original.
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:22 (sixteen years ago)
in the original reality yes. the alt reality is defined by them never having been on the island
At home, Ben stares at his reflection in the microwave as he waits for the frozen turkey dinner for his father, Roger. While changing his father's oxygen tank, Ben reflects on how unimportant he feels at his job, especially given he has a PhD degree. Roger says he wished better for Ben and that is why he signed up with the DHARMA Initiative and moved them to the Island when Ben was a child. Roger wonders aloud whether their lives would have been better if they had stayed on the Island.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:28 (sixteen years ago)
oh come on...he meant jacob's "the island is a bottle of wine/needs to be corked" analogy from ab aeterno
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:31 (sixteen years ago)
polyphonic i'm just talking about the 815 people
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:37 (sixteen years ago)
oic
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:42 (sixteen years ago)
they're as wise to that kind of shit as we are, surely. "Yeah we know, the island is................ our destiny"
― Not the real Village People, Friday, 16 April 2010 03:04 (sixteen years ago)
Oh yeah I'd forgotten the bottle of wine thing.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 April 2010 07:44 (sixteen years ago)