ILX running running thread

appear to have stalled at 5k as maximum non-stop distance (managed nearly 8k but that was only once, about a fortnight ago and no sign of a repetition) and now my times for that have stopped improving (hovering around the 29 min mark)

anyone else got any experience of hitting a 'wall' in either distance or pace? any tips for overcoming it?

10k goes ahead in about two weeks, and I don't think it's beyond me to do it non stop in < 1 hr or less, but that was based on progress up to the beginning of april, now i'm not so sure.

10k in 1 hour would be pretty amazing I think given you're new to this? I know nowt though. It can't be as straightforward as just 2 x 5k.

ran 6 miles in 60 mins last week but had to stop 3/4 times- i'd rather cruise along at a constant pace if i can manage it. it's more dignified

2x 5k keeping pace at 30 mins would be just fine by me tbh!

Co-worker claims it's tantamount to asking for injury to run every day. T/F?

anyone else got any experience of hitting a 'wall' in either distance or pace? any tips for overcoming it?

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do hills and intervals

ugh to both but if that's yr advice then thanks and will do my best.

10k course- lots of hills so probably for the best anyway

i'm not running every day, at least 2 days off in the week, with another two days being other-than-running sports.

you can improve on yr own just jogging along, but if you want to improve faster intervals, hill training etc is the way to go - from a psychological perspective ime running w/people who are a little better than you can help break down some barriers - a race likely fills the same niche just as long as yr not tooo ambitious

Co-worker claims it's tantamount to asking for injury to run every day. T/F?

Absolutely false.

eh everyone is different and there are a lot of variables, regular rest and recuperation is imo not a bad idea

from a psychological perspective ime running w/people who are a little better than you can help break down some barriers

yeah this is the advice i'm getting form all sides but no such person available unfortunately, just a dude 50 miles away whose times (which he texts) are frankly killing me atm.

dont know if youre the type to do this, im certainly not, but joining a running club/group could do the trick - i see these motherfuckers all over the place

also i may have said this before but im a little baffled by the general h8red for intervals here - i find them easier than distance running as theyre more exciting and you get to take breaks

i will read up on intervals, but certainly the 'breaks' sounds promising. i just figured it was sprinting to fuck in set patterns.

nah i'm not joing a running club

sprint > walk > sprint > walk = intervals, nice

heh that's pretty much how my attempt at 6m/10k went, but not how it was planned

I find intervals tedious because I have to pay too much attention to what I am doing. With distance runs I can zone out.

However I should do them anyway, because I need to get faster. And there is only one hill in this city that o know of.

yeah this is the advice i'm getting form all sides but no such person available unfortunately, just a dude 50 miles away whose times (which he texts) are frankly killing me atm.

Motivating thread this. I'm not much of a contributor but as mentioned upthread started about a month ago. Since two weeks there's more regularity in my excercise: 2 -3 times a week. First week was 8 minutes run, 2 minutes walk for a 6 km distance, but as I find that quite a frustrating scheme (though I see why it's needed if you haven't been running in a long time) I went the full distance in a single go by the second week. Just taking things very very easy to not overdo the running pace-wise. It's a great feeling when things start feeling to come together in a few weeks time. This week I ran with a friend who lives in a city with quite a lot of climbs/hills - awesome! As soon as I am running my regular 6 km comfortably in 30 mins I am going to start doing intervals.

With regards to running everyday/injuries - I think it's probably safe to take it easy when you pick up running (after a prolonged period of inactivity) and allow recuperation for a couple of days before you run again. So 2 - 3 times a week should be ok. If your stamina has picked up and your body's grown more accustomed to longer distances I think it should not be a problem to increase the frequency.

Thanks for the frequency advice. Admittedly it's also hard to get out every morning, especially with some early work starts. I'm aiming for every other day. I'd better sign up for some other run once the 10K is over, or I predict I won't keep doing it. Very impressed with Darragh's July target!

hee the target is the easy part.

Re intervals: they're not fun but they work. I'm a fan of fartlek, which is kind of like freeform intervals - you alternate between slow and fast running, making up the session as you go along.

have been advised that fartlek works, and that's more likely the way i'll go about it. i do play football (soccer) twice a week which involves a lot of random sprinting and constant movement, but i don't know if there's any real difference?

My beef with intervals is that I have a hell of a time starting back up after the rest time. It's just a bitch for me. Imna start tryin them out tho, see how I feel after a few sessions.

gonna try fartlek over long distances, run til i'm screwed then as soon again as i can, see where it takes me.

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good point, i'll bring my mobile

fart-lick

yes, i had to get the extremely serious looking older gent at work to repeat it a few times to me alright.

been running a bunch (abt 20miles) in the heat over these past two weeks

fukkin killer

Thinking about casually doing a 50k training run in a few weeks. I know a guy who's doing 50k -- three laps around a 10.3 mile trail by the lake, basically. I may start with two laps, see how I feel...

O_o ban ilxor

Would take me at least six hours fwiw.

ok, ban anyone that can run for six hours then.

I want to run a 50K next year at this time. Goals are great.

I'm really happy for you guys but I am going to continue to rep for the slow, steady, not getting my knees replaced approach.

This has probably been discussed somewhere but are there such a thing as shoes that are OK for running that aren't $$$? I'm not doing anything crazy at this point, just a couple-few miles. My shoes are shit and falling apart and my legs have been sore. But I can't really spend like $150 on superfancy running sneakers right now. Is there anything between shitty sneakers and pro gear?

i spent €20 on a pair of filas, and i've not had any trouble at all running on footpaths/roads

I would go to a sporting goods store and try some on - that way you know what you're getting for $50-$60 or whatever. Also DSW. Just don't get fashion shoes and you should be ok. Mine are New Balance and I like them a lot, but they're nothing special.

Try http://runningwarehouse.com -- wide selection, great prices.

OK cool. My only experience with this was when Sarah went to the fancy running shoe store in Lincoln Square and they watched her run and recommended special shoes just for her.

I would do that and then just not buy them. Then order the same model from running warehouse. Save $$$

I have much love for running warehouse. Free 2 day shipping!

Free returns, too.

btw alternating running and cycling is kinda nice

running warehouse! nice! i was jsut getting ready to start looking for some new kicks

Also recommended (prices are a bit higher, with products more dedicated to long distance runnerss): http://www.zombierunner.com

This has probably been discussed somewhere but are there such a thing as shoes that are OK for running that aren't $$$? I'm not doing anything crazy at this point, just a couple-few miles. My shoes are shit and falling apart and my legs have been sore. But I can't really spend like $150 on superfancy running sneakers right now. Is there anything between shitty sneakers and pro gear?

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