Which film critics do you trust (if any?)

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a high standard

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost:

(I make a distinction between film reviewing and film criticism, which is a more scholarly and academic pursuit. Unlike film reviews, film criticism is more concerned with form rather than content.)

Ugh.

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 10 April 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Criticism is just explaining (to yourself, to your friends, to the public) why you like or don't like something. Reviewing is a form of criticism. There is no reviewing that is not criticism. This is a phony "rap"/"hip hop" binary.

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 10 April 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Mmm, not sure about that. Some of the best criticism leaves me wondering (and sort of not caring) about whether or not the author even liked a movie or not.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 April 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I always thought Stanley Kauffmann had a short, simple, and unpretentious distinction between film reviewing and film criticism (I think it was him--maybe he was quoting someone else): film reviewing assumes you haven't seen the film in question, film criticism assumes you have.

clemenza, Sunday, 11 April 2010 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Manny Farber said "whether you LIKED it is the last thing I care about."

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 April 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link

(which admittedly is part of why I've never totally gotten Farber)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 April 2010 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 vadim rizov <3

― Hey girl, what's up? Yo? What's up? What's up? What's up? (Tape Store), Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:44 AM (3 months ago)

i can now say 'dope guy irl, too' :)

all those electronic boom boom boom stuff (Tape Store), Sunday, 11 April 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost I was thinking precisely of Farber after reading Eric's last comment. The Film Comment piece he wrote with Patricia Patterson on Taxi Driver makes it difficult to tell whether they dug it or not in any absolute sense. Certainly leaning towards "not. But the leaning is soooooooo so brilliant that the piece eclipses the film itself (which I'm no fan so caveat emptor and all that).

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 11 April 2010 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"not."

which I'm no fan OF

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 11 April 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah the farbs is notorious for that

been dipping into dwight macdonald recently -- str8 up awesome

not shedding many a tear for steph z

alpha zingdog (history mayne), Sunday, 11 April 2010 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah the farbs is notorious for that
And also for being able to coinlessly start an old kinetoscope viewer by striking it with his fist.

A Century Of Elvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 April 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

been reading olden sarris articles via google news archive:

http://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?id=0tMQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CYwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6490,5674023&dq=new-york-film-bulletin&hl=en

Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

lol a fictional nikke fink tv show: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/04/12/diane-keaton-hbo-tilda/

cupcake 24/7 (Tape Store), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link

punishing panorama of pessimism
Ha!

Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Few filmmakers are as achingly earnest in their political views, and as deeply in touch with the soul of the proletariat, as Ken Loach is.

stephanie zacherak is terrible

Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yup

is it really that hard to spot all these fake british dudes? (velko), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

izzat bcz u think Loach is terrible?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

that's a corny phrase, actually "soul of the proletariat" is an awful (and condescending to my ears) phrase. but loach is a really down-to-earth dude, a true progressive. who makes more-or-less dull films more often than not.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree. And I'm not sure his movies are clear about who/what the "proletariat" are.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

p'haps cuz he's not all that doctrinaire

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/2015

seems like a chill bro

never seen one of the films he's recommended, to my knowledge

would be sweet to be on the festival circuit

j/k lol simmons (history mayne), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

too many film reviews waffle on and on about the narrative. i really dont need to hear it broken down for that long. they should stick to REVIEWING rather than describing. which is why sight and sound has the right idea by separating the synopsis and review.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

There are ways to intertwine narrative recountings with criticism. Some of the best BFI monographs did it.

rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

André Bazin
― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, December 30, 2002 7:47 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark

this is a solid choice, but can the bazin fans out there read french?

i just read richard roud's review of 'what is cinema?' from 1968 and it is pretty astonishing how poor the translation was. and amazingly it's been unchanged ever since.

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link

there are new translations for this book, no?
i read it in both french and portuguese, never looked in english.

moullet, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah some canadian firm has done it proper. but the widely disseminated uni of cali version is still the standard in anglophone countries.

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link

it frightens me the lack of accuracy and care in a lot of these translations.

moullet, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

where did you read that review, nrq?

zvookster, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

sight and sound, spring 1968

can't c+p

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ic thx!

zvookster, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

geoffrey howell-smith goes as far as to say the translation "may have done more harm than good" here
http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/polls/film_books_full.php (and also points out the canadian edition is only available in canada due to copyright) Ian Christie also points out it's a poor translation, and rosenbaum says there's no one good volume to recommend. but a lot of anglo critics there seem as ignorant of major problems as i was (i read volume ii & some anthologized stuff), and the french of course have no compunctions.

zvookster, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Eberts looking for an Elvis Mitchell replacement

http://www.slashfilm.com/roger-eberts-movies-premieres-january-21-seeks-host/

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Hit it, Morbs! Otherwise we're left with this:

However, the Chicago Sun-Times is now reporting that Mitchell has been dropped and they’re considering replacing him with “a young male in his mid-20s with little or no experience as a movie critic or as a TV talent.”

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I qualify.

benanas foster (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Qui est Christy Lemire? Is she any good?

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

you certainly do not, Eric. mid-20s

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i, on the other hand...

where they douthat at (donna rouge), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

anyhoo I read this as a description of an individual who is already far along in the audition process. maybe donna rouge just confessed!

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i saw maybe five new movies this year which means i'm totally qualified to do this

where they douthat at (donna rouge), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

mid-20s?

a verbatim quote from AdamRL! (admrl), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

“a young male in his mid-20s with little or no experience as a movie critic or as a TV talent.”

Weird, considering how much shit Ebert gave Ben Lyons.

Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Qui est Christy Lemire? Is she any good?

She's the film critic for the Associated Press.

Don't really know anything about her on-air skills, but here's her 2010 top 10.

Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

well, this is her co-host, from Mubi:

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/2723

I am curious to verify that Spread is a great movie.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

As a writer I find him careless, but he's got a good eye for film. A friend sent me this post on Renoir not long ago.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

it's true, Renoir was a badass.

I was amused by his Social Network aside envisioning a Marx Bros biopic where Eisenberg plays Groucho/Chico and Michael Cera plays Harpo/Zeppo.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

He's good for his age.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link


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