Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

Once we get any explanation about anything ever then yeah they've explained everything.

Charlie is also so annoying, let's hope that's the end of him and his 5-year-old child persona.

Would have been better with more Faraday and less Charlie, true.

The alt timeline is the world under smokey/locke spell, Eloise was actually smokey speaking, remeber the start, the island is sunk and smokey most likely escaped. Charle knew it was all fake thats what he was trying to tell desmond

Good theory. Maybe Smokey took over the bodies of all the people who died on the Island when it sank, including Eloise and Widmore, and he's been trying to keep Desmond and the 815ers content so they won't do whatever they're going to do.

Finally watched this last night. My wife loved it, I kinda feel like...

i didnt even get into this when complaining above, but this whole twee true love peels back the verneer of altverse bullshit is totally unsatisfying to me and makes me v v worried about some big romanto-jack/kate/sawyer fucking timewaster still to come, which is the other reason i thought this ep was shit.

― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Wednesday, April 7, 2010 2:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, exactly.

Also, this episode had some good stuff in it but I just didn't feel it much at all, don't know if it was badly written or badly acted dialogue.

Also, I'd prefer like vague half-answers to full-on answers or THE SECRET INGREDIENT IS LOVE.

It's not really "true love" though is it, it's someone you had an intense relationship with in the alt timeline. So for Desmond it's Charlie, who he spent several episodes saving and eventually watched die.

The other timeline is still buried in there in the alt-consciousness in some way. It's the Constant thing all over again.

Really looking forward to Desmond's "you're not supposed to be here" interventions from now on, anyway.

I'm trying to figure out where Widmore is going with this ElectroMagnetic stuff. He wants mapper Jin because presumably he knows of other EM pockets on the Island. Radzinsky drilled in that one spot because the EM pocket was closer to the surface, I assume--but there must be other pockets, since the Island seemingly didn't lose its powers after the Hatch exploded.

Still don't know what he plans to do when he finds another pocket, or Desmond will have to do.

Maybe he's the only one who cant be harmed by smokey thats why? those things they use to keep smokey out are some sort of electromagnetic fence arent they? he seemed to know his purpose after he got zapped and seemed willing to go with sayid at the end

desmond is sent to another electromagnetic pocket where he'll trap smokey ghostbusters style?

It's not really "true love" though is it, it's someone you had an intense relationship with in the alt timeline. So for Desmond it's Charlie, who he spent several episodes saving and eventually watched die.

This is a bit vague tho in typical lost fashion. For instance sayid was practically killed by keamy and didn't recognise. Kate looked after claire's kid for three years and didn't recognise. Jack and Kate? Sawyer and Kate? Locke didn't even recognise Boone!

Kate looked after claire's kid for three years and didn't recognise.

Wait, that was in real timeline, not alt timeline.

He's talking about the 'Constant' theory between the two timelines.

This is a bit vague tho in typical lost fashion. For instance sayid was practically killed by keamy and didn't recognise. Kate looked after claire's kid for three years and didn't recognise. Jack and Kate? Sawyer and Kate? Locke didn't even recognise Boone!

― I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, April 9, 2010 8:37 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

desmond is different, though, has a history of mystical time travel shit

yes, being able to "jump" sideways not that different from jumping backwards imo

it's just jumping really, not that hard when u really think about it

also, Eloises party seems to be an attempt to get all losties in one place no?

http://www.details.com/video?videoID=63253333001

I think Eloise wants all the 815ers to go on in ignorant bliss-but I could be wrong.

Eloises party seems to be an attempt to get all losties in one place no?

I'd like it if they all showed up and relived island scenes:
Charlie drowns in punchbowl, Kate shags Sawyer in the stables, Locke blows up the swimming pool, Walt mind-flings birds at Juliet, Eloise shoots her own son, Ben & Richard throw stink bombs at Pierre Chang and Horace, Claire leaves her baby behind to go off with an older dude.

Was the big test partially to confirm that Desmond is immune to the SmokeFlockeSter? That he could conceivably kill him?

Eloises party seems to be an attempt to get all losties in one place no?

How is this even possible? You can't just invite a fugitive to hang out with a couple of cops, a CEO, a spinal surgeon and a dude in a wheelchair.

Yeah I'm not sure what you're basing the "Eloise party to bring together Losties" theory on?

I'm pretty sure the ones that matter will all end up in the same place at some point soon in the alt-timeline, but probably not due to being invited to a prim charity function. I suspect Desmond might not really need that manifest.

Have watched the ep twice and am clueless as to why Des wants the manifest. Enlighten me.

crazy shit went on w/ Charlie, who he recognized from the plane, so he just put 2 and 2 together that there's something special about people on that flight right?

well...if eloise is bringing people together then that might tie with smokey doing the same for a big cull/kill off.

well she 'brought together' 3 people, 2 of whom are in her family right?

crazy shit went on w/ Charlie, who he recognized from the plane

best part was jack's "he was on our flight?" re: charlie in the hospital

I was going complain about Jack not asking any further questions at that point, but realized that it just seemed like a funky coincidence to him.

I was going complain about Jack not asking any further questions at that point

did this post TIME TRAVEL from 2004?!1?!!

right?

it was a post-sideways

But didn't Jack save Charlie's life? Would have thought he'd remember that.

How come Kate's world is basically the same in both timelines.

she is the balance point, where the scale tips.

In the original timeline it's really doubtful she would've done all that stuff with Claire... also (they really should've mentioned this) she didn't actually kill her father but some random dude accidentally. But yeah, basically she's the same person - but that's arguably true for everybody, just certain circumstances/events or specific pivotal choices changed their lives.

"But didn't Jack save Charlie's life? Would have thought he'd remember that."

hm... this could mean something!

In the original timeline it's really doubtful she would've done all that stuff with Claire... also (they really should've mentioned this) she didn't actually kill her father but some random dude accidentally. But yeah, basically she's the same person - but that's arguably true for everybody, just certain circumstances/events or specific pivotal choices changed their lives.

I just meant that her life is pretty much the same ... still wanted for murder, still on the run. Almost everyone else seems to have gotten something positive out of the world, but hers arguably is worse because her stepdad is still alive, possibly.

She's cool with Claire in the alt; in island time Claire wants to shiv her bad.

I don't know if Sun would call getting shot in her pregnant belly after her father tried to have her secret boyfriend killed "positive."

I forget, why is bad dad cool with Jin marrying her in the orig. timeline, but not in the alt?

claire such a fucken awful actor

About Kate - but remember her "stepdad" turned out to be real dad after all, and thus her relationship with her mother is probably not as horrible, overall it's still better than the regular timeline. What is Kate's ideal world, though? Does she really want to have a life of thrilling adventure and constant escape?

As for Jin - we don't know how they met in the alt, but apparently Jin worked as Sun's bodyguard and then hooked up, as opposed to their random meet in the regular timeline. Also in the alt, Sun's father figured out that Sun secretly saved money and was planning to run away with him (even though Jin didn't know this), which surely was a factor as well.

unfair imo xp

did you see desmond talking to her at the airport

claire such a fucken awful actor

― conrad, Monday, April 12, 2010 11:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yep

who'd be better as claire? naomi watts?

i don't get that kind of criticism, as if this show would be the same or better without "MOY BAYBEEEEEE!" it's part of the inherent sell

I think sun's dad should have been played by ian mcshane, but i have no beef with claire.