Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

haha goin' thangs

It seems like the alt-reality is in jeopardy if they fail on the island.

mmmm good possibility! i have this feeling they won't go with this tho, since it they're probably going to reach some sort of choice-making or reality-crashing before the end of the season

I don't get the sense that the island reality and alt-reality are oppositional. It seems like the alt-reality is in jeopardy if they fail on the island.

This could be true. I guess I just inferred from that episode that Charlie, Faraday, and Desmond were taking an oppositional view to the alt reality, and that Desmond was going to do something to undermine it. But I could be misinterpreting the implications.

"we all got what we thought we wanted but what we really always want was hugs and cuddles and kissyface" arrgrgrgrgggghhh

you're 12 years old, amirite?

i think yer misunderstanding me here dude, what im getting at is if there is a plot device as well worn as "redemption/answer to complex problem through reuniting character with their true love" i dont know what it is.

I thought re: love, 'love would tear us apart" again

also (with the exception of desmond/penny) the fact that every attempt to write a decent romantic relationship into this show has been a completely botched hatchet job does not really make me excited about the possibility of watching the writers hamfist their way through a bunch of that in the final episodes.

Desmond never really struck me as a guy who was yearning to be George Clooney in Up in the Air.

true love doesnt bug me, jack and kate bug me

penny and desmond were so cute in this

laire and locke are the only ones i cant get the missing true love angle on at all

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/thumb/6/65/Locke_Helen.jpg/180px-Locke_Helen.jpg

lolll

penny and desmond were so cute in this

great chemistry in that scene. YAY!

re: Eloise... I think setting the bomb off was her own long con, possibly executed with Widmore. For the (as noted above) selfish reasons of having Daniel back, plus what seems like her whole original family. This explains why she pushed Daniel so hard as a kid, she saw him die in '77 and decided to change things. Also explains wy she was so vicious to Desmond this ep, cause she wants to keep things like they are in the alt.

How this plays into the whole Jacob/MIB axis I have no idea, and how Hawking and Widmore seem aware of both timelines is also wtf (maybe island-born people are aware of the bleed-through sooner?). But I am definitely in the "don't need everything explained" camp.

And we STILL don't know who Penny's mom is, my guess is some kinda shocker but I can't imagine what.

Penny's mom is Libby.

Penny's mom is DESMOND!

Desmond is his own grampaw.

cue the same tired peanut gallery: penny's mom is the sawyer horse, penny's mom is the hurley bird, yuk yuk

Offering a dissent here, I don't think any couple on the entire history of the show has shown any chemistry, incl. Des/Penny or even Rose/Bernard.

pennys mom is the sawyer horse

I wanted to hear what kind of wanky/pretentious music Faraday was making.

The hat just told you it was going to be bad.

haha yeah the 'classical mixed with rock' had me really concerned i shant lie

Daniel W. K.

btw between this thread and my friends facebook updates it seems clear that i am the only person on the planet that hated this episode, so i am starting to get convinced there is prob just something wrong with me

That's how I felt after that Richard Alpert centric. These guys will make you feel better. http://www.whylostsucks.com/

laire and locke are the only ones i cant get the missing true love angle on at all

alt locke makes sense if you consider the missing piece in alt universe to be life fulfillment. which, for most of the characters, does boil down to true love. but for locke, life fulfillment meant going to the island and discovering himself/his purpose.

btw between this thread and my friends facebook updates it seems clear that i am the only person on the planet that hated this episode, so i am starting to get convinced there is prob just something wrong with me

Uh oh, you may need to blow something up to get yourself back into the proper timeline.

Maybe he did blow something up already!

oh yeah, good point.

i made some popcorn a week ago

and then i woke up in the middle of the night and drew an architectural diagram of the jiffy pop mechanism

the crazy thing is that IM NOT EVEN A FOOD SCIENTIST

:-o

So much wasted potential this season, when I'm just imagining how awesome this season could've been if they had gone with this sooner.

Nah, they had to drag that stuff out to make this ep seem like the pivotal turning point with the timelines. There's no point in a mystery if you're going to answer it the following week.

Really liked this episode, mostly because it was the only one, in the entire series, when I really didn't have a fucking clue what was going to happen. The Alpert one was terrific but didn't really tell us anything we hadn't already guessed.

re: Eloise... I think setting the bomb off was her own long con, possibly executed with Widmore. For the (as noted above) selfish reasons of having Daniel back, plus what seems like her whole original family. This explains why she pushed Daniel so hard as a kid, she saw him die in '77 and decided to change things. Also explains wy she was so vicious to Desmond this ep, cause she wants to keep things like they are in the alt.

I like this theory, and it makes sense. But Eloise and Widmore have been manipulating Desmond all along and we still don't know to what purpose. There could be a (very) long con involving those three, Faraday and possibly Miles and Lapidus too.

Widmore in this ep said he needed to know that Desmond could withstand that level of electromagnetism - what is there left on the Island that could still be giving that off? Whatever it is he's going to have to walk right into it for some very important reason, probably in the final ep.

If there is a long con, there are still big gaps in how the whole thing would work, specifically the point at which Ellie and Widmore start giving a shit about Desmond.

We know that, knowing what was going to happen already, they pushed Desmond to go to the Island. We know that Desmond's failure to push buttons causes 815 to crash in the first place, which leads to the 815ers and Faraday going back in time, which leads to the atomic bomb blast that supposedly negates this energy, or blows the island up, or kicks off the alternate timeline, or does something else altogether that we don't know about yet.

We sort of know why Eloise manipulated Daniel's life, but we've seen no point yet at which Young Widmore and Young Ellie are tipped off about Desmond and what he's going to do. The only way of tying this up that I can see, is that Future Desmond, knowing what's going to happen with the two timelines, goes back to either immediately after or just before the bomb blast, meets 70s Widmore and Ellie and does whatever he has to do. Probably involving the Swan.

Or in other words, exactly the sort of thing I said would be ridiculous even by Lost standards upthread.

You just broke my brain.

Also Jin is the one dude I really would not want alongside me if I was kidnapped by an insane scientist. He was useless in this ep.

It's still totally unclear why he was kidnapped and not any of the others, so I'll cut him some slack.

I'm still hoping they don't go with the conclusion that it'll be their kid who is the candidate and neither Sun nor Jin.

I think Widmore just needed Jin to draw MIB to him so he could trap him inside some big magnet or alternate universe or infinite bag of holding or something, but this happened too soon so now he's scrambling to get ready for the inevitable MIB assault

I don't think Ji-yeon is a candidate as I thought candidates were selected and rejected based on their actions during life ...

that wouldn't be very sporting of jacob after all that "once you're on the island your past life don't matter" jibber jabber.

I think that applied for just run-of-the-mill suckers who were drafted into becoming MIB bait, but not candidates for Jacob's office. I got the impression that candidates required study, as in staring at them for decades using a lighthouse mirror

Was a little bugged by the 'can you feel the LURVE Desmond? Can you? Can you?' stuff, but once I remembered that a lot of this was about the idea of constants enabling you to keep it together between timelines, it was good. Still have no idea why he needs the manifest in the alt though. Is he going to round up everyone on 815? If so, why them? 6 billion people in the alt are alternate versions of themselves.

Had this bizarre idea that he was going to bring the alt-manifest back with him somehow to the island, then run around telling everybody 'hey look, I have a piece of paper here which says that I was on the plane with you ... but that didn't happen RIGHT' ... but that doesn't make sense either. I think. My brain may be dissolving into sludge.

he looked like he was fixing to go hold everyone's head under a toilet bowl until they saw their "constant" is what it looked like.

Really liked this episode, mostly because it was the only one, in the entire series, when I really didn't have a fucking clue what was going to happen.

yes OTM

dooooooooope episode, pretty fucking exciting esp. the early scene with des getting frazzled. looked awesome.

and yeh Charlie doing the hand thing in the car, creepy as fuck

best ep of the season. by a long way.

have to agree this should've happened already tho - seems like there's so much left to do