Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

How come Faraday has two British parents and one American accent.

Who knows how long they've lived in LA, they could have lived there since he was little.

I'm really surprised how steadfastly Ozzy Osbourne's kids have refused to assimilate, accent-wise.

Not to draw parallels between Ozzy/Widmore, Sharon/Eloise

ALTERNATE

UNIVERSE

It isn't an alternate universe, exactly. It's a wish-fulfillment universe.

"I reallllllly wish I could get coffee across the street from Ashton's restaurant." BAM. Wish fulfilled.

so if Charlie and Desmond and Faraday all got LUVFLASHES whenever they met their gals in the flash-sideways, does that mean Sawyer and/or Jack felt the same kinda ish when running into Kate and we just weren't shown it or what?

Sawyer's main squeeze was Juliet, right (who was mumbling alt-world visions presumably while on death-throes)? DId Jack run into Kate?

i thought he maybe at least saw her on the plane/in the airport? i dunno it's been awhile since i watched that first episode.

Miles should've had a few "yo i feel like that chick totally gave me a boner...in another reality" moments

Actually wouldn't Jack see Christian going "good job, son" in his soma-vision rather than Kate?

i didnt even get into this when complaining above, but this whole twee true love peels back the verneer of altverse bullshit is totally unsatisfying to me and makes me v v worried about some big romanto-jack/kate/sawyer fucking timewaster still to come, which is the other reason i thought this ep was shit.

"we all got what we thought we wanted but what we really always want was hugs and cuddles and kissyface" arrgrgrgrgggghhh

Be fair: that's all Desmond has consistently wanted. That and some bitchen Scotch.

this episode ruled, sorry haters

OTM

many things i loved about this:

- finally we know they are actually going something with the alternate timeline!
- desmond is jumping between the two timelines! when he came back to the island that was cool but when he jumped BACK that was amazing - this is going to allow interaction between the two worlds
- was pleased that daniel returned..he is kind of awful but i've always enjoyed the storylines involving him
- elouise was only moderately cringe
- penny + desmond :D :D the only time lost has ever ever managed to do romance despite so many bad attempts

going something = doing something / going somewhere

It's still not clear to me why any of these characters would not prefer the alt-reality to the island one. Like even in the alt, Desmond meets Penny, presumably falls in love, gets married, has a kid. Charlie and Faraday can do the same. What advantage lies in the island reality?

Desmond can do all of those things.

I don't get the sense that the island reality and alt-reality are oppositional. It seems like the alt-reality is in jeopardy if they fail on the island.

the number of people that fit into the pattern of this is an alarming (for me) indicator too:

desmond gets approval of widmore/wanted penny
charlie gets success of band, also all the smack he can eat/wanted claire
faraday gets to be a musician/wanted charlotte
sawyer gets to be a good guy lawman/wanted juliet (and for some torture the audience reason, prob also kate)
hurley gets to be lucky (and rich)/idk prob libby?
sayid gets to be a good guy humanitarian/wanted nadia
jin/sun are together/idk no babby to love prob?
jack gets to be a surgeon and not a drunk and have a petulant kid he can bond with because they are both whiny douchebags/wanted ugh kate

claire and locke are the only ones i cant get the missing true love angle on at all, but the wants are obv loving relationship with dad and gets to keep her BAABEE

bunch of xposts there

oh also could add gets to be alive for charlie and faraday to the good times list there

btw i completely agree re: answers. i'm not all that bothered. anyone who thinks the writers have had this show mapped out from the beginning are kidding themselves imo. that's not to take away from the show - i've been hooked for 6 years and have no regrets! but it's a TV show and they've been writing it as they go along. they may have had some theme in mind the whole time with the jacob/mib thing but there was a while earlier this season that i was worried that the island mythology stuff was going to turn out to be completely awful and the alt. universe thing was just a way to satisfy the fans who actually care about jack/kate/sawyer love triangle bullshit. thankfully the alpert episode and this latest one has convinced me they still have it in them! good stuff.

going something = doing something / going somewhere

― archer's goon (tpp), Wednesday, April 7, 2010 3:01 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

am into "going something" as a new turn of phrase

haha goin' thangs

It seems like the alt-reality is in jeopardy if they fail on the island.

mmmm good possibility! i have this feeling they won't go with this tho, since it they're probably going to reach some sort of choice-making or reality-crashing before the end of the season

I don't get the sense that the island reality and alt-reality are oppositional. It seems like the alt-reality is in jeopardy if they fail on the island.

This could be true. I guess I just inferred from that episode that Charlie, Faraday, and Desmond were taking an oppositional view to the alt reality, and that Desmond was going to do something to undermine it. But I could be misinterpreting the implications.

"we all got what we thought we wanted but what we really always want was hugs and cuddles and kissyface" arrgrgrgrgggghhh

you're 12 years old, amirite?

i think yer misunderstanding me here dude, what im getting at is if there is a plot device as well worn as "redemption/answer to complex problem through reuniting character with their true love" i dont know what it is.

I thought re: love, 'love would tear us apart" again

also (with the exception of desmond/penny) the fact that every attempt to write a decent romantic relationship into this show has been a completely botched hatchet job does not really make me excited about the possibility of watching the writers hamfist their way through a bunch of that in the final episodes.

Desmond never really struck me as a guy who was yearning to be George Clooney in Up in the Air.

true love doesnt bug me, jack and kate bug me

penny and desmond were so cute in this

laire and locke are the only ones i cant get the missing true love angle on at all

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/thumb/6/65/Locke_Helen.jpg/180px-Locke_Helen.jpg

lolll

penny and desmond were so cute in this

great chemistry in that scene. YAY!

re: Eloise... I think setting the bomb off was her own long con, possibly executed with Widmore. For the (as noted above) selfish reasons of having Daniel back, plus what seems like her whole original family. This explains why she pushed Daniel so hard as a kid, she saw him die in '77 and decided to change things. Also explains wy she was so vicious to Desmond this ep, cause she wants to keep things like they are in the alt.

How this plays into the whole Jacob/MIB axis I have no idea, and how Hawking and Widmore seem aware of both timelines is also wtf (maybe island-born people are aware of the bleed-through sooner?). But I am definitely in the "don't need everything explained" camp.

And we STILL don't know who Penny's mom is, my guess is some kinda shocker but I can't imagine what.

Penny's mom is Libby.

Penny's mom is DESMOND!

Desmond is his own grampaw.

cue the same tired peanut gallery: penny's mom is the sawyer horse, penny's mom is the hurley bird, yuk yuk

Offering a dissent here, I don't think any couple on the entire history of the show has shown any chemistry, incl. Des/Penny or even Rose/Bernard.

pennys mom is the sawyer horse

I wanted to hear what kind of wanky/pretentious music Faraday was making.

The hat just told you it was going to be bad.

haha yeah the 'classical mixed with rock' had me really concerned i shant lie

Daniel W. K.

btw between this thread and my friends facebook updates it seems clear that i am the only person on the planet that hated this episode, so i am starting to get convinced there is prob just something wrong with me

That's how I felt after that Richard Alpert centric. These guys will make you feel better. http://www.whylostsucks.com/

laire and locke are the only ones i cant get the missing true love angle on at all

alt locke makes sense if you consider the missing piece in alt universe to be life fulfillment. which, for most of the characters, does boil down to true love. but for locke, life fulfillment meant going to the island and discovering himself/his purpose.