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If it makes you feel any better, I took two sewing classes. They weren't really helpful and just tried to sell us various feet that I'd never use.

Totally going the Community Ed route this spring. They won't try to sell me shit.

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

running it through a channel. . .I'm supposed to make an 1" foldover and sew it in 1/4" on the rough edge. It's all jacked up. I think I'm going to do a 1/4" seam, steam-press the inch fold down again and then sew that down.

Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever makes it work! The ultimate goal is to WEAR the pajamas, after all. Never lose sight of that (even after you've been ripping and basting and ripping and basting for three hours and the goddamn motherfucking invisible zipper still won't turn INVISIBLE).

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I hear what you're saying about the classes Molly and shall be prudent. But I think I need to seek something out. I feel all thumbs at sewing and it all seems so complicated! I get frustrated easily when I don't pick things up quickly. I think it might be b/c I have no one to show me.

Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my classes at the store where I bought my machine was a thinly-veiled scheme to buy more crap from them. Good for you, though, for doing pajama bottoms! An extremely simple apron is all I can handle right now.

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, I went to P&S finally yesterday and they had tons of remnants 1/2 yard-3 yards that were half off outside on like 5 racks. I guess they are moving at the end of December? and will be getting rid of lots of stuff. i got some muslin, flannel, canvas (for screenprinting), some cotton pique, seerscuker, and lots of 100% wool with pinstripes (the type they use in men's suits).

ian johnson's mom + jack bauer 2gether 4evah (Carey), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome! What's the plan for all that fabric? Must find out what is up with their move...??

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
update: finally found the thread again. anyone learn it DIY? i don't think i'll take a sewing class but i'm still tempted to get a secondhand sewing machine. i saw some for 100 euros. is that too much? or maybe too little? :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how much 100 Euros is here. Mine was a gift but I'm pretty sure it cost less than $100. It is about as simple as you can get but is fine for my purposes now.

I've totally been DIY and managed to make good looking xmas gifts (not without some initial struggle.) maybe get a good book and there's always the net.

this week i've been making my own little pattern, fun!

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

any good sites for beginners?

100 euros is about 120 dollars, but then VAT is very high here so i think it's sort of the same thing in the us (ie 100 dollars). maybe not the cheapest but for starters i'd like something *simple* but not too rickety. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't found as consistent a sewing site as some of the knitting ones I use. When I search I often end up on about.com. However, G got me this book for xmas and it is awesome!

It's old (70s) but is perfect for me as there's no "let's make a Joey Ramone doll out of old bath towels"-type creativity to distract me. It's straight forward and answers any basic question I have. It's always opened up in my sewing room now and is like having my own old lady around to give me advice.

(pls note I don't hate fun but like to build up my skills solidly before I attempt to make Kathleen Hanna dolls out of Snoopy sheets.)

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone have tips for working with satin/slippery fabrics? I'm trying to make things out of some of my vintage dresses and am using the satin-y (don't think it really is) lining of one. beautiful but what a pain. it frays when I cut b/c of the stretch I can't get it sized right. I'm just trying to make an eyeglass case but have wasted a lot of the fabric so far. :(

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, should I save more money and go for a (secondhand) overlock machine? Are they easier to use?

I asked a friend if it's easy to sew if you have the patterns and she was somewhat vague. She claimed, yes, unless you want to adapt the pattern. So is it easy if you have a pattern or still a big hurdle to climb over?

"I feel the need... the need to craft" Nath Cruise ;-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

In my limited experience with patterns, I haven't enjoyed it too much. A lot of sewing seems like all of my least favorite parts of knitting - the pressing, measuring, etc. Yet it is essential. I've been making a little pattern of my own lately and have been enjoying that immensly.

So to answer your question I don't know that it's hard neccesairly (not anymore than learning any other skill set for the first time) but maybe not as fun for some. I think I'm going to try and build a cutting table this weekend so perhaps working with patterns will become more fun for me. So far I've been doing it all on the floor!

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Nathalie, there's two big components to home sewing: the sewing skills themselves, and the fit & tailoring of the garment (if you're making a garment and not, say, a tea cozy). You might enjoy the learning process a lot more if you start with some curtains or pillowcases or things that you don't have to WEAR before you tackle clothing patterns, which have their own sort of code. Or make jumpers for the baby, those are easy!

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Because when make clothing for grown-ups you ALWAYS have to alter the pattern. Think about it: patterns only come in a range of sizes and "ideal" proportions, everything else about them you'll have to tailor on your own -- but that's the fun part! And there's no other way to get a dress (or skirt or whatever item you have the most trouble shopping for) that fits you perfectly.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Miz, there's something called "Fray Check" and other similar products to stop the edges of your satin from coming apart. You can also buy a set of special scissors called "pinking shears" that cut a zig-zag line discourages fraying and they'll probably come in handy if you continue sewing, but for just one or two projects, go to yr fabric or craft store and ask for Fray-check or similar.

One way to make the satin easier to handle in the sewing process would be to interface it with a sturdier material on the backside -- something that doesn't stretch so much on the bias. If you want to go that route, holler, because I've only used interfacing a couple of times and I find it annoying but would be happy to discuss.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

will do the fray check.

I've used regular sew-in interfacing but bought some fusible for this project. However I couldn't get it to fuse. I tried a lot of scrap fabric, marking the fuse side etc, but still couldn't get it to work. Don't know if I'm just doing it wrong or if it won't stick.

Last night I sewed interfacing to the lining (fleece) and then tried to sew that to the satin outer. big mess. Am going to cut a new piece and try again.

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I got my fusible to stick once but then the fabric had to be pleated and folded and the folds caused a lot of air bubbles and cracking of the interfaced layer. The finished handbag is useable but I'm not particularly proud of it. I'm not sure how that's all supposed to work, quite frankly. Anyway, don't sew the interfacing to the fleece, sew it to the satin! Use big running stitches in an even grid pattern, you can pull them out later (or even use a basting stitch if your machine has one). Then sew up the case, then take out the basting stitches. Some might get a little caught under your seams but trim them close or slip the threads out just before the foot passes over them. Or something. Experiment in that direction, instead of interfacing the fleece?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

NB pinking shears are also very useful at Christmas and for paper crafty things!

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure that's true, but cutting paper with sewing shears is really bad for the edges!! There wasn't much that was safe from us in my mother's house but her good shears were definite up there.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

good shears . . .right now mine suck but this weekend JoAnn's has a 50% off sale on all cutting shears! hurrah!

Basting/grid is a good idea, didn't think of that.

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

So should I go for an overlock machine? Hmm, yes, yes, should do.

Heck, I could ask my friend and/or grandmother to teach me some tricks. :-) (God, that sounds lewd.)

I don't think I'll enroll in a sewing course (yet) as I'm very tempted to take that lacemaking class and who knows next year (and the year after that) might have some changes in the household?

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure what an overlock machine is. Is it like a serger?

Here's how green I was: Until I got my machine and started figuring out how to thread it, I had no idea that thread came from above and below. duh!

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, Serger.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...
Do I need an industrial machine to sew vinyl or can I do it on my basic Kenmore with the right needle? I want to make a purse/wallet.

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Depends on how heavy it is, I imagine? But yeah, you'll need a specific needle. Also keep an eye on thread weight, I don't know if machines handle it differently or snag more once it gets over a certain thickness or etc but you'll probably want something pretty sturdy for that wallet.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking pretty lightweight (with cardboard inserts or something for stability). I def. want a better sewing machine in the future but wanted to give this a try in the meantime. I've hemmed jeans on it and the doubled-over denim is pretty heavy duty!

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oo, don't use cardboard! Use a cut-out piece of the flat side of a plastic milk jug or something. Something that won't crease and can get wet. Good luck, report back!

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

I finally made the second step: buying fabric and some needles and thread.

I had to before my fear turns into a fobia. ;-)

nathalie, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

Yay!

I hope to have your giftie in the mail in the next week Nath. I'll stick some sewing goodies in too.

I almost finished my mother's purse this weekend. Except the material is this faux-suede and I kind of jacked up the stitching at the top which means I can't fix it. Because of the little holes. :( I love doing things of my own design but it means I'll usually making it up as I go along and end up having to redo parts.

Ms Misery, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

I think this will be another confrontation with my "two left hands." I felt so stupid in the shop. As they are not extremely friendly and an impatient O was with me, I could not ask for information (re needles and *stuff*). I did notice a pamphlet for sewing classes. I only want to do a few, to get me started. *sigh*

PRESENT? Did you just say PRESENT? WOOHOO! :-D

nathalie, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

Urgh, I don't even know how to thread the mothah-frigging machine. I'll ask someone. She has the same machine as I do. Lordie Lord!

Do I need two threads (we call'em under and above thread)? Or can I just do a *main* (above) thread?

stevienixed, Monday, 25 June 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

You need two. The machine works by interlocking the two threads between the layers of fabric. I forget if you said whether or not you had a manual. This should guide you through it.

Ms Misery, Monday, 25 June 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I have a manual, just not a brane. :-( I tried with the manual but I cldn't understand what they were on about. Should have taken the advice of the shopkeeper and listened to her explanation. :-(

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)

I attempted to do some stitches and was able to get the fabric stuck. hahahahaha Now I have to learn how to put the "underthread" in again. I have watched YouTube and my fear has developed into a fobia again. I think I'll just be patient and slowly but surely figure it all out. What I *really* would like is some sort of mini course but they don't have it here. :-( I'm not willing to shell out 130 euros (yet). I can't since I do want to do the knitting course and there's a second baby on the way.

GAH!

nathalie, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

Be patient and keep trying. You'll get it.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

I need some help deciding on an embellished pocket . . .

I'm using this pattern to make the short dress w/ tie sleeves:
http://www.builtbywendy.com/onlineshop/images/BBY-3835_MAIN.jpg
and I'm making it out of this great dark turquoise fabric. I haven't put the pockets on yet in case I wanted to embroider them or something. I can't decide! It definitely needs something to break it up though. Any ideas?

sweet tater, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

What about a contrasting trim on the hem?

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

like a different thread color or do you mean like ric-rac or something?

I had thought about doing something more elaborate . . . i saw this photo of a japanese embroidered garden that seems kinda cool. i'll try to find a photo . . .

sweet tater, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

so kinda like this, i guess:

http://huangfamily.com/craftlog/archives/tinygarden.gif

but i don't think that flowers really fit in with what i like about the look of this dress...

sweet tater, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

To me the dress looks almost mod/sixties style. So I was just thinking a contrasting color of blanket border or twill tape on the bottom. But that's just my taste.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

i'm new to all of this . . . is that like bias tape more or less?

I think you're right though. Less is more with that dress. would it be too much to have a border along the bottom and then maybe trim the top portion of the pocket in the same border?

sweet tater, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

You could do the ties in a contrasting color, or even polka dotted fabric!

molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

the next dress i'm going to make with this pattern is going to be in houndstooth w/ contrasting ties but the current dress is almost finished already (thus the ties are already turquoise). I'm not that experienced of a sewer, so I wanted to do a practice dress first. but i love the idea of polka dots! i mostly avoid bows & buttons as decor & everything else is game.

sweet tater, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

is that like bias tape more or less

yes. I almost said contrasting ties too.

for me the embroidery seems too hippieish (and I love embroidering things) but again that's just my taste.

I mainly just sew bags/purses so am not the best reference on clothes styling.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

I am the same way. That pattern looks great! I'm still a total novice with the sewing. Was it terribly hard? I bought a pattern a while back from Vogue that looks great, but seems a bit too difficult for me.

molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

I agree that embroidery looks too hippie. I think that's why I was leaning toward the crazier one, but even that would probably clash with the dress.

The next dress I make (with the houndstooth) I'm going to do a contrasting tie but only on the inside so the contrast peeks out at you. That's the dress I'm actually more excited about which is why I'm using this one as a practice round.

As for difficulty, it's surprisingly not too bad! I started with the shirt, actually, and I'm glad I did b/c the dress would've been too much for a first time thing. I also modified the shirt to have longer sleeves (slightly) and no elastic in them. I kept the elastic in the neck though, and it's a great shirt to throw on whenever. I may end up hemming it slightly as I am probably shorter than the anticipated person they made this pattern for. you could totally do it, molly!!

If you get it & have trouble, I would be happy to help out. I don't know where you live but this weekend is a 99 cent sale on simplicity patterns at joanns & this is one of their patterns.

sweet tater, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously!? 99 cents! I'm so there! Thanks so much! There's a Joann a couple miles from my house. I've been needing a project to A) increase my skills and B) increase my sewing confidence. I really love the top and the dresses. I made a shirt a while back, and it turned out really terribly. I also used some ugly granny fabric from the clearance rack, so it wasn't too much of a wash.

molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

I love Jo-Ann's but it's kind of far from here. I've done about four purses recently from my own design. they were, eh. I've also done a couple of make-up bags that were passable. I'm about to do a tote for myself lined with some luscious taffeta. after that I'm going to try my hand at a messenger bag. I really need an industrial machine.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)


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