Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I doubt there's a satisfactory answer that allows the island to be either ahead in time (dead doctor) OR behind in time (missile test payload), but yet still a place you can reliably get to by following the right bearing in your helicopter/submarine.

Also, when did Tom Friendly find the time to get off-island to hang out with his gay lover and also Michael? He is on-island for seemingly all of season 3, during which the submarine is exploded, but Michael is on-island during season 2. How did he get there without the submarine?

It's already been hand-waved, though. The electromagnetic energy pockets underneath the island cause disruptions in space/time, so anything that doesn't approach the island on the appropriate bearings gets screwed up - the time displaced objects, the doctor corpse, the time sickness. Time doesn't move more quickly on the island, it's just stuff that drops onto the island in the "wrong way" - mostly the Kahana and associated folks dropping in during Season 4 - gets affected.

Otherwise time passes normally on the island, it's not affected by the time travelers or the "time barrier" around the island. I don't see any holes here? I know there's the whole "the island moves constantly in space and time" bit from Season 5 but I don't see that contradicting anything.

As hokey as it sounds, that "correct bearing" explanation makes good, solid sense. In the world of Lost. Dislike it as I do, I was overlooking all of that.

My next hang-up is the "always moving through space/time" stuff. I see it as the discharge/failsafe from the season 2 finale causing it all to stop, as a result of the energy pocket under the Swan being dissipated. That's how Penny's posse was able to see it, and how Widmore was then able to locate it--it was stationary. When Ben turned the wheel and shit started popping, again, I assumed that the failsafe key had caused the wheel to stop moving. But then it seemed only to have an impact on our main cadre of losties, who experienced temporal displacement that seemed to affect nobody/nothing else.

This all seems pretty solid, but the island still has to be moving through time/space for the whole Ajira thing to happen. If it's still cruising around, then how the fuck ain't nobody got a nosebleed? Was that perhaps an issue of frequency of shifts, rather than the shifts themselves? Also having trouble figuring out why the sky isn't turning purple, every few days.

Sorry. Years ago, this was all pretty solid, for me. Used to be frustrated by people constantly being confused about all of this. Going back and watching stuff over again, though, I'm having trouble being as industrious as I once was. Damn it. Hoping that this all gets at least a nod or two, this season.

Fantastic episode.

Charles and Eloise certainly have knowledge of both time lines and are pushing for the timeline in which Daniel is alive? Selfish.

Episode should have been named Daniel Faraday's Lonely Hearts Club Band.

And yes, awesome episode.

pretty good

wait people liked this episode? i thought it was the worst one yet!

it was great!

i like the direction it is going, and i like the prospect of a hurley episode next week

so alt land is some bizarro wish fulfillment world

This might've been the first episode this season that I whole-heartedly loved. Except for maybe the first ten minutes, which were ehh.

LOVED this one.

I didn't like the first 10 minutes as they were happening, but later decided the payoff, ie the instant Desmond returns to consciousness on-island, was worth it.

wow. sorry dudes, but this episode is the one that finally convinced me that this show is not even slightly going to be able to come to any satisfying conclusion - there are 7 TV hours left to wrap up jin and sayid in the meatlocker, why eloise understands whats going on, sawyer arresting kate, a bunch of other alt world plotlines, oh and also that slight pesky aspect where there is this mysterious island that seems somehow important, despite it being kind of relegated to a minor sub plot at this point.

This should have been episode 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=vLhfxI8T2cU

DUDE JUST LET US ENJOY THIS EPISODE

I'm feeling you on the only 7 hours left point. So much wasted potential this season, when I'm just imagining how awesome this season could've been if they had gone with this sooner. But shit, episodes like this are why I started watching in the first place. Just the right balance of action and intrigue, with characters I like with comprehensible motivations.

Charles and Eloise certainly have knowledge of both time lines and are pushing for the timeline in which Daniel is alive? Selfish.

lol, but in fairness, original timeline whidmore seems to be pushing to preserve the original timeline. So maybe not selfish so much as just having a completely different perspective in this timeline.

"What do you know about X?!" is the new "That's not important right now" [as in 'what do you know about sacrifice/realistic/etc'].

Eloise & Desmond awesome. I felt like Faraday suddenly having and telling all this knowledge was a slight acknowledgement of 'shit we only have 7 eps left'. I guess it's confirming the bleeding timelines/ only Desmond knows both timelines kind of direction although it's taken its damn time getting here.

this episode ruled, sorry haters

Eloise is definitely a timelord.

jj otm this was wack... important, but wack

NOT PENNY'S BOAT gave me chills

if dudes don't wanna ride five and a half seasons in either
a. ur slow shoulda gtfo this thread a while ago
b. ur right it isn't as good but damn don't u feel boring, why not just enjoy it

xp I dunno, I was quite impressed that they hadn't done anything that obvious up til now. Still I think Desmond gets a free pass for that kind of thing, so I'll let them off.

yeah no this was the best episode of the season by a substantial margin.

man i dont even know what to say, i think maybe i dig this show for some pretty different reasons than you guys, none of which were fulfilled w/this ep

Loved this episode

i mean if you're watching strictly for answers and not to be entertained by giant electromagnetic coils inducing timeline jumping, then i guess it's a pretty shitty episode.

i thought desmond waking up on the island and knowing what is going on was amazing.

i thought desmond waking up on the island and knowing what is going on was amazing.

yss this was great--i wish ALL the characters on this show would be like desmond post-electric and just do what other ppl tell them without putting up a fight

i feel like we got a decent amount of answers AND moved the show toward the conclusion too, so im not sure what the answer brigade is complaining about

mister jim otm so nice to see understandable character motivation for once in this dam shows life

great episode, this is the kind of mindfuckery I wish they had been indulging in all season

Only bad part of ep was return of Charlie who frankly I was hoping would just die again.

naw even he was good

I hate his teeth.

racist

forgot to mention how much i love fisher stevens

had Fisher Stevens been on before, as a different character? I couldn't remember.

was he ... Indian?

He was Minkowski, the freighter's radio operator.

was he ... Indian?

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He played the Oscar-winning producer of an agitprop documentary.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1946980096/nm0001770

don't need answers... do need a story that's more than "at the behest of others, character of the week goes here, then goes here"

doesn't seem so much to ask, really

if thats how you feel you might want to... not watch lost

I want to know what coffee shop exists at the corner of Melrose and Sweetzer in the alt. timeline, because in this timeline it's Ashton Kutcher's reaturant "Dolce" and the Penny that I fell in love with wouldn't want to meet for coffee there

thats what Desmond has to tell the other passengers, that in this timeline Ashton Kutcher exists :( great episode, I would put it 2nd next to slaughter at the temple