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York, Steyn, K-Lo, Goldberg, Lowry, I think.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 October 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

The vale of tears:

Dishonesty [Mark R. Levin]

This is pathetic. Doug Kmiec, I remember when you came to my office at the Justice Department — where at the time I was serving as associate deputy attorney general under Attorney General Ed Meese — seeking an appointment. I remember processing your papers and sending them to the White House for political clearance. I remember advocating for your appointment to a deputy assistant attorney general post in the Office of Legal Counsel and securing your appointment. And from there, Doug, you became the acting assistant attorney general for the Office of Legal Counsel in the last days of the Reagan administration. You have now used your resume to give cover to perhaps the most radical and unqualified person to be nominated for president. And your arguments on Obama's behalf have been nothing short of dishonest. I am extremely disappointed in you. But my guess is you've earned a judgeship should Obama win the presidency. Frankly, sometimes you think you know somebody when, in fact, you don't.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

Said anything over there about Duberstein yet?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

the most radical and unqualified person to be nominated for president.

does he really believe this.

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 31 October 2008 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

It's Mark Levin, of course he believes that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

One of the funniest things I've read was a few years ago when he popped over to the Belgravia Dispatch blog and whined about Greg D. (the blogowner) and his take on things. You could tell Levin wasn't merely annoyed that people might have different views from him, but actually mortally insulted and outraged.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

The idea that this guy was once part of the Justic Department is utterly grotesque.

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)

Don't worry -- he had McCarthy for company.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:27 (seventeen years ago)

These conservative "defections" raise the question: is this an isolated phenomenon? How many Republicans secretly voted for Kerry in 2004, or for Clinton in 1996?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)

It's easier to stay quiet when a possible electoral and popular landslide isn't threatening to bury you.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)

The Obama Cult Cont'd [Jonah Goldberg]

Look, I agree that there's a legitmate argument that Obama has not encouraged the craziest aspects of the Obama cult and therefore he shouldn't be held accountable for all of the "lightworker," Obama Youth and messiah stuff. But, it would be nice if more non-culty Obama supporters would at least acknowledge the profound creepiness of some of this stuff. Here's the latest example:

EL PASO — A man who jumped 60 feet to his death from the Spaghetti Bowl on Thursday left a note with a message for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama.
A note to "Obama" was found in the man's car, which was parked on the top ramp of the Spaghetti Bowl.
Officials offered no further explanation nor interpreted the note's meaning.

What did the note say? "Obama take care of my family."

I sent Jonah an email in response. Since I'm sure he won't post it, here it is:

Sure, what the hell. I'll be your liberal reader who will admit to the weirdness. All messianic reactions to politicians are creepy - whether to Obama or to Reagan. That said, when I read the story you posted about the man who jumped to his death, I was less filled with creepiness than with sadness. What a sad man who felt he had to end his life, and what a sad message to leave with the world. I'm going to be a bit snarky, so forgive me - I think the difference between liberals and conservatives is when we hear about these people, we think of them as mentally unwell and non-representative. When you look at the same people on your side, you think of them as friends.

Mordy, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

that doesnt sound like 'messianic devotee' at all

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 31 October 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

What an idiot.

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:59 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah. It just sounds like a sad, unwell dude. But that's my point. We recognize that. For Jonah, these are his buddies on the right, so he assumes they must be an average leftist too.

Mordy, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

Look, I agree that there's a legitmate argument that Obama has not encouraged the craziest aspects of the Obama cult

I like the phrasing of this. "Yeah, just maybe."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

"I mean it's POSSIBLE he might not have encouraged this guy to jump to his death that's all I'm saying."

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)

Goldberg is enamored of the phrase "there is a legitimate argument." Its use of the passive voice is a sneaky way of avoiding responsiblity.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

There is a legitimate argument that he is not a goof.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

Make it then.

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:17 (seventeen years ago)

Is it weird that I haven't found Goldberg the most egregious, horrific writer for NRO this election cycle? Next to Lowry, who masturbates to Palin on television, and Steyn, who thinks Obama wants to personally put him in a gulag... Goldberg has actually sounded somewhat reasonable at times.

Mordy, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

He spends a lot of time playing with his daughter.

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:20 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think he's sounded reasonable, but I can't disagree that I've seen quotes from all the other folks that sound a LOT more nutso.

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

i think he sounds tired and unenthusiastic more than "reasonable"

omar little, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

ok wau. She did it!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 October 2008 22:56 (seventeen years ago)

hahahahahaha omg

john mccain = triumph
obama = rush

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 31 October 2008 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

seriously she posted a triumph video. on national review online.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 31 October 2008 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

to compare & contrast: the wankers at TownHall:

http://townhall.com/columnists/

George Will : All Shall Not Be Lost
Terry Paulson : Democracies Die When Liberty Gives Way to Dependence
Phil Harris : Barack’s Siren’s Song - The Seduction of a Nation
Jackie Gingrich Cushman : Become Organized, Be Persistant and Live Longer
Guy Benson : Criticizing Obama: Mission Impossible
David R. Stokes : Charisma and Promises to Keep
Ken Connor : Vote to Ensure Representative Government
Kevin McCullough : "Fundamental Transformation?" Yes or No...
Austin Hill : Barack Obama And The Economics Of Sesame Street
Paul Jacob : The million-dollar question
Salena Zito : Closing the deal
Doug Giles : Young Undecideds Who Love Guns: Vote Your Glock
Bill O'Reilly : The Fear Factor
Brent Bozell III : No Access For Hollywood?
Carl Horowitz : Adam Clayton Powell: Father of Black Identity Politics, Mentor to Al Sharpton
Frank Turek : Born Gay or a Gay Basher? No Excuse
William Perry Pendley : Enviros Go Nuclear, But Not in a Good Way
Wynton Hall : Obama's Spiral of Silence
Paul Greenberg : The Joy of Losing
Thomas Sowell : Ego and Mouth

obama cyber leader (kingfish), Monday, 3 November 2008 03:56 (seventeen years ago)

Look, at age 17...Jay received enlightenment!
Thinking as Children, Thinking as Adults [Jay Nordlinger]
One of the regular themes of my political writing is one very insulting to liberals: Liberals are often people who, in their thinking, never grew up — their thinking remained childlike. This is true when it comes to issues of war and peace; and it’s true when it comes to issues of wealth and poverty.

Give you an example that recently came to mind: I used to think that resistance to taxation was selfish; that, indeed, advocacy of lower taxes was an expression of selfishness, if not contempt for others. (Recall that Congressman Rangel has damned tax cuts as “racist.”) But then I turned about 17 — and realized that a free economy, with low taxation and light regulation, made people at large more prosperous.

It is not selfish to want to keep more of your own money. Often, people do more for others with their own wealth than government can do for others with that same wealth.

And here comes Senator Obama, tarring resistance to higher taxation as selfish. (His running mate, for good measure, has labeled it unpatriotic.) That’d be okay for Obama’s young daughters — but for a man his age?

Last week, I was in a debate with a distinguished professor of economics who described the “anti-tax movement” (in his words) as a “disease.” He went on to quote the old saw about taxes being the price of civilization — sure. But we “anti-tax” people don’t advocate no taxes. We advocate a fair, sensible, and effective system of taxation.

It is often right to be childlike in our thinking (certainly when it comes to matters spiritual). At other times — it is pathetically harmful.

Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 3 November 2008 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

I wish Jeremy hadnt linked that townhall page. This frank turek shitis perhaps one of the most execrable columns i've read. Just to start:

http://townhall.com/Columnists/FrankTurek/2008/11/01/born_gay_or_a_gay_basher_no_excuse?page=full&comments=true

After my last column, I got an e-mail from retired FBI agent Bob Hamer. Bob’s the author of a riveting new book that takes you undercover with him into the world of drug bosses, hit men, and his last assignment, the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). After I sent him a copy of my new book on same-sex marriage, he wrote back:
“Thanks so much for sharing your book. It was powerful and I need to re-read it because it said so much. It actually brought back memories of the NAMBLA conferences I attended. I listened to men justify oral sex on 18 month olds. How often I listened to men claim their pedophilia was an inborn trait; it was natural, ‘this is the way God made me.’”

Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 3 November 2008 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

A Reason to Elect McCain [Jay Nordlinger]
There are a lot of people who didn’t like Edmund Morris’s biography of Reagan, which was authorized — they said it was a failure, or at least a missed opportunity. I don’t know. I didn’t read it. But I do know this: Morris had one insight into Reagan, and it was perfectly observed.

Reagan spent his entire life standing up to the bully. From boyhood on, he interposed himself between the bully and the innocent. He stood up to the bullies in his schools. He stood up to the Communists in Hollywood, and to the coercive unions. He stood up to the student radicals and their abettors. He stood up to the Soviets.

He simply stood up.

In the world today are a lot of bullies to stand up to: al-Qaeda, the mullahs, the North Koreans, the Chinese Communists, the Castro brothers, Chávez. John McCain will almost certainly do it. Barack Obama will almost certainly not.

That’s one reason — probably the biggest reason — I’m voting for McCain on Tuesday.

"I don't know. I didn't read it"

m coleman, Monday, 3 November 2008 11:52 (seventeen years ago)

Reagan spent his entire life standing up to the bully. From boyhood on, he interposed himself between the bully and the innocent. He stood up to the bullies in his schools. He stood up to the Communists in Hollywood, and to the coercive unions. He stood up to the student radicals and their abettors. He stood up to the Soviets.

L.O.L.

max, Monday, 3 November 2008 11:54 (seventeen years ago)

reagan spent his entire life standing up to the bully, so im going to list 3 instances where reagan aided and abetted powerful bullies against smaller weaker groups

max, Monday, 3 November 2008 11:56 (seventeen years ago)

Right those wicked Communists who were forcing innocent actors to perform Auto-de-fe in Hollywood

Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 3 November 2008 12:00 (seventeen years ago)

Dept. of Enduring Myths [Jay Nordlinger]

I’ve just come back from a weekend in Vermont — and here’s how I understand it: Modestly off people — “real Vermonters,” as some people say — are voting for McCain and Palin. Comfortably off people, such as those who own ski chalets, are voting for Obama and Biden. And the following has been frequently noted about the city of my residence, New York: The rich are voting Democratic. And those who work for them — driving cars, cleaning rooms, and so on — are voting Republican.

Yet, when I was growing up, the Republican party was always called the party of the rich, and it still suffers from that label. Over and over, that which I was taught is contradicted by the evidence of my lived experience.

11/02 07:30 PM

deej, Monday, 3 November 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

^^^totally rong but i guess someone corrects him further up the page
http://redbluerichpoor.com/

deej, Monday, 3 November 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

yah the state electing socialist bernie sanders only has rich ppl voting voting blue

deej, Monday, 3 November 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

A Further Word on Race [Jay Nordlinger]

When I was in Norwalk, Conn., some days ago, I saw a stark sign (homemade): “McCain + Palin = Racist!” The first letters and symbols were in black, and the final word — “Racist!” — in red. I took a picture of it with my BlackBerry, thinking that I might share it here on NRO. But I’m not technically adept enough to figure out how to post it.

I DIED, Monday, 3 November 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

lol

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 3 November 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

can someone please mail all of them this thread? mordy (who disproportionately seems to have his mail answered there) ? :)

Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 3 November 2008 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

^ good idea since they probably don't know how to click hyperlinks in emails.

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 3 November 2008 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

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HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

We're One Day Away from Changing America [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Obama said that a few ago in Florida. Am I the only one who doesn't want to change America in any fundamental way? Does that make me crazy? And alone?

and what, Monday, 3 November 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

HA!!!

El Tomboto, Monday, 3 November 2008 17:15 (seventeen years ago)

There are some questions that are best left unasked, Kathryn.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Monday, 3 November 2008 17:16 (seventeen years ago)

looooool

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

I am so looking forward to her and Steyn's late Tues. night/Wednesday posts.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Monday, 3 November 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

[Mona Charen]
Driving through rural and semi-rural areas where the homes are downscale and there are dogs tied up to trees outside, you'll see lots of American flags — even roofs with flags painted on them. But in the tonier proverbial "tree-lined" suburbs where the houses go for a small fortune hardly any flags are visible. The only exception to this rule was the immediate post 9/11 period when flags sprouted everywhere (even on the stage of the New York Philharmonic!).

m coleman, Monday, 3 November 2008 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

jesus what's next -- "people with old cars mounted on bricks in the their front yard, by golly those are the REAL americans"

m coleman, Monday, 3 November 2008 19:24 (seventeen years ago)

Doug Giles : Young Undecideds Who Love Guns: Vote Your Glock

hahah vote your glock omg i missed that in all the excitement

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 3 November 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

Zog [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Listen, I am not a poll conspiracy theorist. At least I don't want to be. But what the heck? McCain was leading last night suddenly. Now he's most definitely not. What's up with that? I'll tell you what's up with that. I promise you I am not delusional, but: The only poll that matters is real votes. See you on Election Day.

and what, Monday, 3 November 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)


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