Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

so who's the focus tonight? anyone know? guessing Hurley or Sun/Jin.

Jin/Sun. Spoiled myself on this episode. Big ending. And things should really start happening next week if certain theories are true. But we can wait 90 minutes to talk about that.

Can I just say how much I hate the sound of "Amazing Grace" played on a bagpipe.

Good episode though.

don't see how that was a "big ending" tbh -- as the episode came to a close i kinda felt like i had mostly just watched the show spin its wheels, one or two intriguing things aside

Reading the spoilers, Desmond seemed like a big deal, but as it played out it was pretty anticlimactic, sure. Nonetheless, there's been a lot of speculation that Desmond is going to be pretty key, especially with respect to the alt timeline. So if those theories are true, things could start getting interesting next week.

Anyway, I enjoyed this episode. Didn't like last weeks, so don't know what that says about me.

So was Mikhail's eye just a parallel to the other timeline, or is this the same Mikhail? "The John Locke I knew was par--"

also felt the spinning wheels sensation this episode :/ any quick guesses how desmond's ability is 'the key'?

abanana, that's certainly the question we're meant to be asking... i'm not so sure this is an "alt" or "other" timeline after all. but we shall see.

I'm a sucker for Sun and Jin episodes. Also Sawyer's: "No, 'cause THAT would be ridiculous!"

so nothing actually happened this ep, right? did i miss something?

Desmond's their go-to "unstuck in time and space" guy, maybe he's jumping back and forth between realities like he did in The Constant. Then he could bring messages from one side to the other ("I just saw a magical world where the plane didn't crash! Everyone who's been to the island lives in Los Angeles for some reason!")

Jack's eyes welled up with tears at the end of his scene with Sun, OF COURSE.

Absolutely nothing happened, but the episode was pleasant enough.

who cares about pleasant?!

wtf u guyz this was a good one, a ducks in a row episode. we always criticize when characters don't communicate with each other, don't fill in. but now we know where claire is at, what's going on with sayid, the trajectory of the beach folks. flocke right up at the sonic fence was tight. darts got shot again. room 23.

mikhail getting shot in the eye is big i think, tells us the LA world is going to mimic the island but not how we expect (if we see ethan again he's going to die, right?). and desmond is totally going to connect the two worlds isn't he

sun taking her sweater off was the perfect L O S T mix of hot and lol

^^^so true

Why would Mr. Paik send Sun on the surprise-you're-murdered trip with Jin?

we always criticize when characters don't communicate with each other, don't fill in.

Well, why the hell wouldn't Alpert just say "hey, a few years ago I had a heart-to-heart with Jacob, who told me that we CAN'T let this thing off the island" when he comes back and tells everyone to pack their bags?! Widmore managed to convey the whole thing clearly to Jin in one sentence.

Would REALLY nobody ask a follow up after FLocke ignored Sawyer's "Where'd Sayid go?" question?

This episode had some really clunky dialogue - e.g. FLocke's "A wise man once said war would come to this island... well, I think it just did" or whatever. And I sort of wanted Jack's cringe-tomato to explode in his hand.

Why would Mr. Paik send Sun on the surprise-you're-murdered trip with Jin?

Probably to teach her a lesson about sneaking around behind his back with checking accounts and boyfriends.

generally liked this episode but I wish they had started the flash-sideways plot at the point where Sayid finds Jin in the meat locker, since we didn't really learn much new from that plot, other than that Sun's dad was going to have Keamey kill Jin and (maybe) that Jin and Sun aren't married in alt-world (or did we already know that?)

However I find Jin and Sun a lot more palatable than Jack/Kate/Sawyer and the dude who plays Keamey is a lot of fun to watch.

However I find Jin and Sun a lot more palatable than Jack/Kate/Sawyer and the dude who plays Keamey is a lot of fun to watch.

This is true. Not a lot happened, but it was enjoyable enough.

the dude who plays Keamey is a lot of fun to watch

i found him way hotter in this ep than ever before

creepy

Funniest line of the night: the intentional Sawyer "Cause That Would be ridiculous" vs the unintentional Whidmore "It's time to see my package."

I mostly enjoyed the alt stuff this episode. The on island stuff was mostly boring and uninteresting to me, especially the stuff involving the Jack, Hurley, and Ilana group. I think that's been the pattern for me all season though. I Did enjoy Desmond and Sayid's wtf interaction.

But frankly this show has more or less been kind of a bore to me since the end of season 4, literally the moment after Ben moved the island, but if I'm grading on a curve, relative to what I've come to expect from this show, I liked this episode enough to call it a good episode.

this might've been the best Jin/Sun-centric episode ever for me, although i've never been a big fan. sweater scene was O_O though.

i'm liking the on-island stuff a lot more now that they're out of the paper mache temple.

maybe... on-island stuff STILL boils down to:

This week on LOST, [jacob/smocke/richard] tells the Losties to go here, or here, or maybe here, and some stuff happens.

I watched an s2 ep of breaking bad last night sometime after lost and was like damn lost really sucks now

inertia is the only thing making me watch the show

I wish Widmore wasn't such a dick to his son-in-law

You know you're living your life to the fullest when you watch a TV show because of inertia.

I know dude I know

maybe... on-island stuff STILL boils down to:

This week on LOST, [jacob/smocke/richard] tells the Losties to go here, or here, or maybe here, and some stuff happens.

fixed.

Desmond's their go-to "unstuck in time and space" guy, maybe he's jumping back and forth between realities like he did in The Constant.

Since Zoe's looking for the exotic matter pockets I'd imagine that they're going to toss Des in there so he can pop out in the alt, yeah

I didn't see this so much as a marking-time ep as just setting up the pieces for the shitstorm to come. Seems like MIB needs the candidates in one place to depart the island (more 'we all have to go back'/'it has to be all of you' stuff - why?), and everybody else is expendable (like say Kate once she gets Jack and Sawyer on the plane)

what's her face was the bank agent, but she had no accent, that was weird.

I think Flocke wants to get all of the candidates together so that he can kill them. Though apparently he can't do this directly himself because of what that weird little kid said? And once all of the candidates are dead, he can leave the island.

Last night's episode got me thinking that Keamy could have been one of this show's all time great villains, maybe not quite up there with Linus, but still up there. Which also got me thinking, who was season 5's villain? Radzinsky? lol. Either Ben or Whidmore or both I guess. Ultimately it turns out neither maybe.

I never would have thought that I would like the off-island stuff more than the on-island stuff until this season. And I guess thats because at this point only the off-island stuff has had forward moving plots, with characters I'm familiar with doing stuff that matters to them.

On island has been in this weird back-story filling, mystery answering mode for the bulk of two seasons now. And Ive come to realize that I never cared about the answers to any of these mysteries. If they had ended this show at the end of season 4, with the losties who wanted to get off the island getting off the island and those who didn't, staying with Locke and moving the island, I think that would've been perfect for me.

I don't necessarily mean I don't care about the answers to any mystery, but I really don't feel like I learned anything new about the dharma initiative, the french team, alpert's backstory, or anything else where I had pretty much already filled those gaps in my mind, only to have the show refill those gaps with official, canonical, unnecessary yet-not-very-compelling versions. The story of the black rock was a whole lot less interesting to me than what I had pieced together in my mind about it. Same is true of the dharma initiative, and probably other stuff I can't think of at the moment.

What's your mind-fanfiction version like? I thought the black rock was going to be an intergalactic slave ship.

Basically what they showed. Yet it was somehow less cool actually watching it. lol. In my imagination, Smokey did not immediately kill everyone except Alpert though, but that's neither here nor there really.

In the Alpert story, I'm amazed by all the things we DIDN'T learn. Who is Hanso? Was he trying to send the Black Rock to the island or did it just happen? Does he work for Jacob (it didn't seem like it). How did he get the captain's diary? If Hanso was working for Jacob in some way, why were there a bunch of other slaves on the ship? Were they selected to come to the island too? If not, why not just have a slave ship with only the captain and Alpert?

Instead, what we learn is: Alpert sold his life away to avoid jail, to a man he (and we) didn't meet, everyone he met died as soon as he got to the island ... basically, we only learned what we already knew, plus the specifics of how he personally got on the boat.

yeah thats otm.

Why would you think he was trying to send the ship to the island?

This show's going to leave a lot of stuff unanswered so it'll be as talked about as Twin Peaks in 15-20 years.

They could do with leaving more stuff unanswered, imo. The temple was another mystery that I didn't need explained.

x-posts: Not trying to ignore your question. I'm just otming the 2nd paragraph. "basically we only learned what we already knew..."

But wtf am i bitching about? I think I enjoyed most of last night MORE than most of you guys. Sorry, just an old talking about stuff on the internet habit.

Why would you think he was trying to send the ship to the island?

I don't know, but I am sure Jacob has some influence, either directly or indirectly. But fuck if we know what it was ... in probably the only episode there will ever be about the Black Rock!

jacob's full name is Jakob Hanso MacLeod of the clan MacLeod

Oh, I had Magnus Hanso all wrong. He was the captain of the ship, Whitfield was his second, and Hanso died in the crash on the island.

Not sure how Alvar Hanso got the captain's log, but I suppose Richard could have brought it back with him.

saving hanso stories for the comic book sequels

wtf with that Dancing W/The Stars bullshit, I wanted to rewatch last week's episode! fortunately I dl'ed a Spanish-subtitled one which was lots of fun.

geez that V countdown was annoying.

more mirrors in this ep, also those vozzek69 recaps continue to be awesome and enlightening. if the "nothing happened this time" folks would care to take a look... (note: long and geeky)

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/03/things-i-noticed-package-by-vozzek69.html#more

Seriously anyone who thinks nothing happened in this episode is just not paying attention and moaning for the sake of moaning by now.

Just reading a summary of it is exhausting: Desmond is the package. *eyeroll at Matt DC*

Think this was the biggest indication yet that it's actually Widmore who was on the 'right' side throughout S3 and S4, and that he was trying to kill Ben because he knew what was going to happen. He must know something, he knows what's important about Desmond, which is why he went to such lengths to get him to the island twice, and possibly this is related to the Faraday/time stuff that's been ignored so far this season.

What did Zoe say she was? A geologist? A geophysicist? That's going to be a big deal. Probably born on the island as well.

Quite happy Sun has lost the ability to speak English because she can't really act in English, whereas she's a lot better in Korean. There was no indication she should speak English in the alt-timeline either, which might, if I was in stupid theorising mode, be an example of the alt-timeline bleeding through into this one, like Juliet's "let's go for coffee".

Seems to me like alt-Keamy is targeting the candidates, maybe? I can't remember what it was that would make him give a shit about Sayid. Maybe it was just a coincidence.

Pretty sure that Kate is really a candidate and maybe Jacob is dummying Smokey by crossing off her name and pretending she isn't. There's no way he's getting Hurley onside, anyway.