Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Jeezus. Hyde does come over as such a pompous idiot. She thinks that inserting 'darlings' into every other sentence makes her wise and witty.

the pinefox, Friday, 31 October 2008 10:53 (seventeen years ago)

haaaa omg why have i been alerted to that when i have time sensitive work to be doing!!! i heart marina hyde so much. i hadn't checked LIS for ages cuz she didn't seem to be doing it any more.

lex pretend, Friday, 31 October 2008 11:13 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think she shd have posted murray's responses (or continue to deride him when he obviously seems quite hurt by her ridicule) in the comments; had he wanted them public I'm sure he's perfectly capable to navigate to the comments (even tho he said "feel free to print this")

she doesn't seem to understand tht "joeks bruv" doesn't quite cut it when you have the audience and reach tht the guardian has

coznebb (cozwn), Friday, 31 October 2008 11:55 (seventeen years ago)

Don't forget she used to cut it with Piers Morgan.

Do they mean us? They surely do! It's Ray Conniff! (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 31 October 2008 11:56 (seventeen years ago)

Cozen is correct: with incredible lameness and laziness, she keeps saying 'it's all a bit of a giggle' and 'can't you take a joke?'. But her own tone is not funny. And isn't she at all ashamed to feel that her life and career revolves around things apparently so insubstantial that if anyone complains about them she can say they are entirely unserious and don't matter?

the pinefox, Friday, 31 October 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

And isn't she at all ashamed to feel that her life and career revolves around things apparently so insubstantial that if anyone complains about them she can say they are entirely unserious and don't matter?

exactly! it must be an awesome life being marina hyde: existing so far up your own arsehole that you never have to engage with anything other than the occasional piece of celebrity-culture waste matter.

remorseful prober (grimly fiendish), Friday, 31 October 2008 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

LOIS

Fine if you feel that strongly then by all means run. But I'm warning you I'm not going to pull any punches on the issues.

PETER

(holding sandwich in front of face) Oh I'm Lois, look at me with my big ideas and my pointy nose. nana nana na.

LOIS

Oh boy, this will be even easier then running unopposed.

PETER

Is that so? Well I'm not only gonna beat you. I'm gonna eat your nose.

LOIS

See you on the campaign trail.

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 31 October 2008 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

Lily Allen comes off very well compared to Hyde above. What is this British obsession with bemoaning celebrity culture in the most boring ways imaginable, and pretending these rants aren't a worse side-effect of it anwyay?

These days when I open "Lost in Showbiz" I can barely read a line, it's just so bilious but all that's there is bile. "Oh wouldn't you know it/don't you just love it" etc etc. Tell me something you care about or something worth hearing, not something that's oh so jaded and predictable.

The pathetic part is that you read equally smart assed celeb coverage in London Lite or whatever but it's not pretending to be above it all.

"Ms Hyde, i feel i have become a happier person since i started reading your column, and I should like to thank you from the bottom of my stony black heart. You should marry Charlie Brooker and have lots of lovely cynical babies. Thanks again"

Seriously wtf is wrong with these people? "I dislike celebs I am so smart!" Is that what the Guardian is reduced to for a laugh now?

Local Garda, Monday, 3 November 2008 22:54 (seventeen years ago)

Working in PR must be like selling your soul to the devil - poor darlings.

Local Garda, Monday, 3 November 2008 22:56 (seventeen years ago)

It's all rubbish, Garda. Best to ignore them and hope that your own life is a little more substantial and worthy than theirs.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 November 2008 23:46 (seventeen years ago)

i loved hyde's political diaries, when she did them. this kind of press release skewering comes off a lot better when it's taking politicians down a peg or two rather than some random showbiz flunkie

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 23:57 (seventeen years ago)

You'd have thought it'd be hard for Hyde to come across as superior to anyone when she's had Piers Morgan's dick in her mouth.

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 3 November 2008 23:58 (seventeen years ago)

That's millionaire Piers Morgan to you, son! Which should answer your question; she doesn't run on cheap gas.

Bristol Meth (suzy), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

^^^content brought

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 00:06 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/06/bad-song-lyrics

'Literary boffin John Sutherland'

GamalielRatsey, Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:05 (seventeen years ago)

Also, use of the phrase 'there's no denying' in the Guardian Guide, in fact anywhere, but especially here because it usually preludes some piece of pseudo-knowledge, which, even if you hadn't wanted to deny it before you want to deny now.

'The Dark Night - Overhyped? Probably. Overrated? Perhaps, but there's no denying that this has much more than just a recognisable franchise and the attachment of a famous tragic death going for it.'

WHY? Why would I want to deny such a curious formulation until you just said 'there's no denying' it?

In fact, it doesn't just make me want to deny what the writer (Phelim O'Neill) says there is no denying, it makes me want to deny the very premise of the thought.

I mean, those qualities might be seen as reasons for its success but not things that are 'going for' something.

In fact it makes me want to deny everything.

Argh! I don't want to analyse the non-thought any more, it's making me upset. Take it away please.

GamalielRatsey, Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:16 (seventeen years ago)

It's quite easy to deny, anyway. You just go "fuck off stupid comic book movies".

Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

There's no denying that The Guide is a bag of wank tho.

Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:18 (seventeen years ago)

I can't believe people actually open The Guide and actually read it. I mean, you have to pull open that plastic wrapping and everything.

Matt DC, Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:22 (seventeen years ago)

morelike "the ghey-de"

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

c-, must try harder

Neil S, Saturday, 6 December 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

Found it lying on a seat, innit

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:13 (seventeen years ago)

Bring back "Powerblogger" Tony Naylor and Ruth Fowler's Daddy Issues

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:07 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh word

special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:29 (seventeen years ago)

http://enemiesofreason.blogspot.com/2008/12/meanwhile-over-at-culture-hub.html

Oh snap

Seannadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

what a nob

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 00:55 (seventeen years ago)

my favorite thing about this thread is that apparently no one reads anything but G2, film and music, & occasionally the guide and review

thomp, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

okay maybe in the "skipping 558 messages" bit someone did

thomp, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

okay the pinedox does, well done the pinefox

thomp, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/dec/22/christmas-shopping

the pinefox, Monday, 22 December 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)

I actually find that idea quite romantic, just wish the pic was of Harris.

the pinefox, Monday, 22 December 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Lifeandhealth/Pix/pictures/2007/01/15/jh.jpg

ISAAC PITMAN akathe stenographer (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 22 December 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

HAHAHA

that is funny, I was just looking at the other thread and captions for it

imagine if Harris did buy someone a toaster for xmas !

the pinefox, Monday, 22 December 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

i can't! it's too bizarre!

Harvey Weewax (stevie), Monday, 22 December 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

Reader's Poll: The Results!

Not exactly exciting.

Not me I'm the Emotional Type (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

I meant to put that here.
Guardian - pop music = conservatism
Have now.

Not me I'm the Emotional Type (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

Banner headline for Harold Pinter tribute today, pages 14-15 (perhaps not later editions?)

"Theatrical world applauds life and art of our greatest living playwright"

Alba, Saturday, 27 December 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

It's in my copy, lolz.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Saturday, 27 December 2008 21:46 (seventeen years ago)

The first few paragraphs of this George Monbiot piece are vintage stuff

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

Couldn't make it past the 3rd as was laughing too hard. Hope there's a bit where he goes and burns down a holiday cottage.

I Was a Teenage Armchair Hongro Fan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

He's never been shouted at in Wales apparently. Any Welsh ILXors out there to take up the challenge?

Neil S, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:53 (seventeen years ago)

when I wrote to a very active councillor asking his permission to recommend him for a gong, he replied: "I would prefer not to seek such an honour."

George Monbiot believes in the honours system?

Bob Six, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:59 (seventeen years ago)

i nhad assumed that he was an 'hon' himself, but pops seems not to have been enobled despite all his service to the nation/conservative party.

Brohan Hari, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

I wouldn't have imagined him to be super concerned about national borders either but As far as I can discover, this is the only country in Europe that you cannot traverse by train without spending most of the journey passing through another. The only rail link that allows you to travel from north to south crosses the border near Llangollen and doesn't re-enter Wales until it approaches Abergavenny, 100 miles away kinda suggests otherwise - I mean this is a true statement, I think, but the specific importance of this eludes me

da cryypiä (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

Think it means Monbiot's been caning the Snowballs and chocolate liqueurs since Christmas Eve.

I Was a Teenage Armchair Hongro Fan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:52 (seventeen years ago)

Reminds me I need to go and buy another bottle of Warnink's.

I Was a Teenage Armchair Hongro Fan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:53 (seventeen years ago)

Gonna be travelling that Abergavenny line on NYD, will pour one out for Monbiot as I exploit Wales for inter-England travel purposes.

claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)

This impulse arises from a number of observations: in two years of walking through the valleys and over the hills here, I have never been shouted at; the cafe in the local leisure centre serves smoothies in measures labelled "small" (about a pint) and "regular" (about two pints); when I wrote to a very active councillor asking his permission to recommend him for a gong, he replied: "I would prefer not to seek such an honour."

vs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/sets/1391696/

caek, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:09 (seventeen years ago)

Dude Likes Holiday Home Better Than Real Home, film at 11.

I Was a Teenage Armchair Hongro Fan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)

god bless this humble little land

Local Garda, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:15 (seventeen years ago)


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