2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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fuck 'em

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

that's what i say

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOYbFADoINE

deej, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

Why? Because he's black? Because he's liberal? Because he's cool and detached?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

because he's black and/or too young

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

guys he's a muslim

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:41 (eighteen years ago)

do you want a president sworn in on the koran???

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:41 (eighteen years ago)

his nomination'll be a good way to axe the fucking lame dead wood from the plodding bulk of the toothless donkey party

remy bean, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

i tried to sink another metaphor into that sentence, but i couldn't

remy bean, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

he's gonna make nancy reagan wear a burkha!!!

YGS, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

He's going to stone Bill Kristol to death on the steps of the Capitol.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

state dinners all halal

remy bean, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

He's going to stone Bill Kristol to death on the steps of the Capitol.

Tempting.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

this is the most boring obama speech so far. it's all over.

YGS, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

he stole it from mike wallace

remy bean, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, so he came through with that wide margin here (WI) after all, huh?

Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

now can he win PA?

http://www.geocities.com/lager57/sixpacks/yuengling1.jpg

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:49 (eighteen years ago)

Oh we need more men like Victor Davis Hanson, spotting perfidy under every stone:

Re: Michelle Obama's astounding admission that she hitherto had no reason to feel pride in the U.S., and Obama's supposed Biden-like lifting of a campaign refrain from someone else.

The problem is deeper than occasional slips. For most of the last 25 years the Obamas' contacts have been largely confined to universities (Occidental, Columbia, Princeton, Harvard, Chicago) as both students and employees, or to government-sponsored social agencies, or to the incestuous world of Chicago minority politics. These landscapes have proven liberal, sympathetic, and non-confrontational. I doubt very seriously in those environments that the Obamas have had any of their sometimes bewildering statements seriously cross-examined or questioned.

Michelle Obama, true, recites a litany of slights and grievances, but more likely she encountered highly educated white liberal audiences that were not about to cross her or challenge her assertions-a world away from steelworkers in Ohio, the Nascar crowd, the Mexican Americans in LA, the hungry wolves of the D.C. press corps for whom controversy trumps even shared liberal ideology — or Clinton, Inc. for whom power, status, and adulation outweigh everything, including liberal head-nodding, white guilt, and identity politics.

The result is that finally out on the campaign trail both are beginning to enter an arena where most of America does not faint at an Obama rally, but resents deeply a candidate's spouse suggesting that she previously had no pride in her own country, and would think that generous college admission practices, scholarships, and loans were cause more for gratitude rather than resentment.

Some old cynical campaign veteran, cigar in mouth-a Tip O'Neill-type, with the more scars the better-should sit the two kids down, explain the no-holds-barred rules of the arena outside the university and liberal government agency, remind them that African Americans and elite white liberals probably make up about at most a fourth of the electorate, and emphasize to them that by the public's own standard of living, the Obamas have been very privileged and done quite well-and that Michelle and Barack should start to say something uplifting other than the current mantra that the U.S. is a depressing and unfair place and has only one chance of 'hope" and "change" and "redemption" by allowing Barack and Michelle to lead us out of our collective ignorance.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:49 (eighteen years ago)

WOW @ Obama on the war re: Ryan the soldier.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

remind them that African Americans and elite white liberals probably make up about at most a fourth of the electorate

like evangelicals?

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

Also, WOW @ "I'm not running because I think it's owed to me"

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, I can't fathom the sophistication of a mind that accepts nomenclature like "the NASCAR crowd" without irony.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

The result is that finally out on the campaign trail both are beginning to enter an arena where most of America does not faint at an Obama rally, but resents deeply a candidate's spouse suggesting that she previously had no pride in her own country, and would think that generous college admission practices, scholarships, and loans were cause more for gratitude rather than resentment.

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i don't know who this guy is, but i hate him

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

actually the last sentence there is even more infuriating

"you're black?! you should be THANKING us for having it so EASY"

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

sentence, clause, whatever

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know anything about sentences

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/girl_interrupte.html

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://thepage.time.com/2007/02/19/halperins-take-who-hillary-clinton-needs-to-stand-by-her-now/

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

8:45 p.m.: Obama continues to dominate in Dane County. He has not lost a single municipality with all of the following reporting: Albion, Berry, Black Earth, Blooming Grove, Blue Mounds, Burke, Christiana, Cross Plains
Deerfield, Dunkirk, Dunn, Mazomanie, Medina, Middleton, Perry, Pleasant Springs, Primrose, Roxbury, Sun Prairie D-3, Vienna D-2, Westport, York, Belleville, Black Earth, Blue Mounds, Brooklyn, Cross Plains, DeForest, Marshall, Mount Horeb, Rockdale, Shorewood Hills, and Middleton. McCain was also the victor in all of those with the exception of Christiana and Albion. Those communities went to Huckabee.

heh

Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.lesinrocks.com/uploads/picts/visuels/20013/25477.jpg

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

you're god damn RIGHT he won wisconsin -- i think it was the sticker on the back of my car

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

Also, WOW @ "I'm not running because I think it's owed to me"

Obama said this? That sounds like a swipe at McCain's line, delivered after the last round of primaries, that he (McCain) isn't "running because I think I have been delivered here to solve the nation's problems."

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

who was it who remarked that McCain is pissed that it took this dude like 5 years to get where it took him 25.

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:10 (eighteen years ago)

Obama wasn't 894th out of 899 in his class, I'm guessing

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:12 (eighteen years ago)

that michelle obama comment is gonna be coming back around again and again dudes, i can see the avalanche of right wing strips now ... its another way to get at race w/out talking about race

deej, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:14 (eighteen years ago)

OTM

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:14 (eighteen years ago)

maybe it answers my silent question why we hadn't seen more of the fam and heard more from her - i think she can give an amazing speech, but she may not have the best political instincts.

gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:15 (eighteen years ago)

Also, WOW @ "I'm not running because I think it's owed to me"

Obama said this? That sounds like a swipe at McCain's line, delivered after the last round of primaries, that he (McCain) isn't "running because I think I have been delivered here to solve the nation's problems."

He said it during his rally in Houston tonight (that's still going on as of 10:15 pm EST). I totally took it as a dig at Hillary's inevitable nomination.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:16 (eighteen years ago)

Whatevs. How did McCain sound tonight, i.e., was he as listless and flat as he has been lately, or does he have renewed energy?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:16 (eighteen years ago)

(xp)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:16 (eighteen years ago)

at this point, who cares what mccain sounds like? it's a marathon not a sprint etc. for the same reason, if'n mccain tries to make michelle obama's comment as a major thing it will backfire, and if cindy mccain tries to inject herself into this then her record is wide open and that ain't good.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:20 (eighteen years ago)

too early for worry, is all i'm saying.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:20 (eighteen years ago)

i like obama on the civil rights tip @ houston

remy bean, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:22 (eighteen years ago)

I'm curious, Dimension.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:24 (eighteen years ago)

oh man, bring on the michelle obama vs cindy mccain debate

kingfish, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:25 (eighteen years ago)

And wrestling match!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:32 (eighteen years ago)

oh god, i'm myspace messaging with the dude who forwarded me that ignorant bullshit.

Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

so obama started his speech before hillary was done with hers on purpose? kinda telling. it's a way of saying you are OVER. same with the way McCain just took on obama and didn't bother mentioning hillary. stick a fork in her already.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:42 (eighteen years ago)

i hate to admit it but david brooks made me laugh today:

"They see her campaign morosely traipsing from one depressed industrial area to another — The Sitting Shiva for America Tour. They see that her entire political strategy consists of waiting for primary states as boring as she is."

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:44 (eighteen years ago)

from this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/opinion/19brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

also laughed at "Ian McEwan-centered book clubs"

hey, i gotta call the funny when i see it.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 03:47 (eighteen years ago)


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