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Schulz kept doing that, though -- consider the early 70s strips where Snoopy goes off to give a speech and it turns into an anti-Vietnam protest/riot.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
i've been reading a lot of peanuts recently, from all eras, and its got me wondering... is this really a healthy strip for kids to read? it sounds like a flip statement, and i've always believed the strip was fantastic because it explores the really scary dark shit of childhood in an entirely natural, non-patronising manner - i'm sure that's why kids and adults alike love it.

but it's not hard to interpret the strip as eulogising various unhealthy traits - low self esteem, unrequited love, etc. i sometimes joke that i want to be linus but am more like charlie brown, but i've been wondering recently whether reading lots of peanuts strips as a kid might've instilled some subconscious belief that the misery depicted on a day-to-day basis in the comic was some kind of normalcy, that i may have transposed charlie brown's own anxieties upon my own.

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh, I've heard the same thing from folks who obsessed over the Smiths and Moz lyrics too much earlier in their lives saying, "It encouraged a bad state of mind," etc. Now, as someone who loves both Smiths and Schulz ;-) perhaps I'm not the best of judges, but while I have my bleak moments, they are generally that -- moments. I don't sense myself having been crippled or however you'd like to phrase it by either of them, so I think it's less the art than it is the reader and how one responds to the art.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
I loved Peanuts as a kid. In hindsight, the "darkness", occasional cynicism, lonliness, depression, questions about life, etc - all of that really rubbed me the right way. I wasn't really a depressive kid either, in fact usually the opposite, but I was pretty introverted, and Peanuts was like a whole other group of friends.

that said, just finished the 1955-56 complete book, and getting ready to start on the 57-58 one. These are still really great strips!

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:55 (twenty years ago)

I've been slowly going through the first four volumes - so beautiful and harsh at the same time.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Search: Charlotte Braun

In 2000, it became known that a fan of Peanuts had written Schulz a letter requesting that Charlotte Braun be removed. Schulz wrote back, promising to remove the character but asking the reader if she wanted to be responsible for "the death of an innocent child". The letter included a picture of Charlotte Braun with an ax in her head. The letter has been donated to the Library of Congress.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cagle.com/hogan/webextras13/charlotte/braun_thumb/charlotte-thumb.gif

My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 00:54 (twenty years ago)

to be fair, she is a pretty lame character (tho seems to be a little bit "reincarnated" in Peppermint Patty, whose introduction to the strip I am eagerly awaiting in subsequent volumes...)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

I appreciate her 'why me' look.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

charlie brown's reaction to being called "chuck" for the first time on PP's first appearance is one of the funniest things to ever appear in the strip.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:22 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how much that ax drawing would have gotten at an auction?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

It wouldn't get anywhere near enough to be as valuable as this is for me:

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Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:41 (twenty years ago)

"I loved Peanuts as a kid. In hindsight, the "darkness", occasional cynicism, lonliness, depression, questions about life, etc -"


LA Locals, currently there is a comics exhibit at the Hammer museum in Westwood. "Chuck" Schultz is on display with many of his contemporaries and even some pre- contemps. Some of it's trite, but others are outstanding in their oblique and darker references. Worth a look since Thursday's admission is FREE! Lichtenstein's Polaroid's are awesome too.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:42 (twenty years ago)

Wait, there's no way Schulz drew that Charlotte Braun/ax drawing. Unless he was like really drunk or something - it doesn't look anything like his style!

The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 07:42 (twenty years ago)

nah, it looks just like one of his casual sketches - there's a lot of them in that chip kidd book and in the old peanuts jubilee. plus remember that drawing's from 1953 or so.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 07:52 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Nice story about Jeannie Schultz.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
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stet (stet), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:05 (twenty years ago)

Is it too big, or am I just a chump? If it appears below, I'm a chump.

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stet (stet), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:06 (twenty years ago)

Well, now everyone can be sure.

stet (stet), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:06 (twenty years ago)

What, another Smashing Pumpkins cartoon? ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:08 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
oooh 59-62 volumes are now out. I just can't afford to keep up with these, I don't get enough Borders/Amazon gift certificates....

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I missed that manga-ized version of Charlie Brown, Linus and Lucy before. I only wish I'd missed it this time.

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Monday, 5 June 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)

best not to dwell on it.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)

That latest volume is pretty great -- it's when strips that I know start appearing.

Oh, golly, I could go on about a particularly fantastic moment in that most recent volume, but I'm a little too tired to right now. Remind me later.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:51 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

I've just now completed a crucial rite of passage, after about 13 years in limbo. When I were a nipper, we were given a VCR copy of 'Bon Voyage Charlie Brown (And Don't Come Back)', missing the first five and last twenty minutes. As a kid, I absolutely loved it and watched it time after time, memorising the dialogue, artwork and music as I did so. Tonight I watched the whole thing for the first time. It held up beautifully, although the end was a little rushed. Most of it conveyed a certain kind of accident-prone, angst-ridden early youth that I was all too familiar with, although seeing it now, my sympathies switched to Snoopy and Woodstock, who had by far the most whimsical, philosophical, adult perspective on things. One golden moment I hadn't seen before was Woodstock emerging from a fire hose bearing his violin, which he then proceeded to play. One golden moment I'd just missed as a child was that whilst the boys + animals watched an in-flight movie called 'Happy Bunnies', the girls watched one called something like 'Naughty Esmerelda'! Ahem. And what was all that French swearing in the automobile wreck! 'Oooh le con' indeed...

Just got offed, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

i regret to tell you that "naughty marietta" (which i'm pretty sure was the movie) isn't quite as naughty as one would hope: http://imdb.com/title/tt0026768/

J.D., Monday, 16 July 2007 04:40 (eighteen years ago)

ILX's JD is a true star for repping for late period Peanuts

A B C, Monday, 16 July 2007 04:57 (eighteen years ago)

I can't imagine how hard I'd lose my shit watching Bon Voyage, Charlie Brown today, I can barely deal with first season episodes of Frasier

A B C, Monday, 16 July 2007 04:59 (eighteen years ago)

And what was all that French swearing in the automobile wreck! 'Oooh le con' indeed...

i always thought they were shouting "oooh! le car!" - seeing as charlie brown's request for un pain was phrased as "une loaf de bread".

the gang visit wimbledon too in this one. i still prefer 'a boy named charlie brown' though.

stevie, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

There's also the bit where they can't understand the guy offering them steak and kidney pie.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

and yet they can understand teachers who talk like muted trumpets...

stevie, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

Well duh, those are AMERICAN teachers.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

Then again I suppose Othmar could be Lithuanian in background or something.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

Trombonian.

Casuistry, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

This I believe.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Peanuts, by Charles Bukowski

Amazingly, not bad as I'd thought it would have been. Brilliant even.

Roz, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 09:26 (eighteen years ago)

lolz@"Good grief, he thought. What a cunt. "

The Wayward Johnny B, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

goddammit they are putting out these complete peanuts volumes faster than I can afford them! I only have 1-4 and haven't even gotten to the 60s yet :(

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

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HI DERE, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

BAH

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HI DERE, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

wtf

HI DERE, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

fuck never mind

HI DERE, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

buy the boxes Shakey, they're cheaper and you only have to keep up with one a year instead of two.

energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

that's what I did with vol 3-4... maybe I'll get 5-6 for Xmas...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

Is the new one out? I thought it wasn't coming out for a few more weeks.

Casuistry, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

all I know is my volumes end at '59 and now they're like on '66 or some shit.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 23:15 (eighteen years ago)

also watch for huge new biography of schulz by david michaelis, 6 years in the making, next month

J.D., Thursday, 20 September 2007 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

am i the only one who's read the michaelis bio yet? quite controversial, owing to its open treatment of schulz's lifelong depression, his shortcomings as a dad, and even his sex life. his kids aren't happy with it.

i finished reading it this morning. it's well researched and not at all as sensationalized as that description makes it sound, but michaelis spends way too much time on rambling, discursive, and frankly unconvincing analysis of schulz's personality. it often reads like a (very) rough first draft, before a sensible editor made him take all that bullshit out. he also leaves WAY too much out - he spends 30 (admittedly gripping) pages on schulz's extra-marital affair, but virtually ignores the last 25 years of "peanuts."

the revelation that schulz reacted to his divorce by having charlie brown kick lucy off the baseball team is worth the price of the book, though.

J.D., Friday, 26 October 2007 09:17 (eighteen years ago)

also the story about him calling garfield "the ugliest, most insulting and hateful character i've ever seen."

J.D., Friday, 26 October 2007 09:18 (eighteen years ago)

Haha! This sounds like a good read for a long flight.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 26 October 2007 09:24 (eighteen years ago)


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