Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

"Can you help me become the next Antonio Banderas?"

"Sorry. Can't do that."

"Then I guess I'd like to play your unaging butler on a show about a magic island."

"Now that I can do."

haha!

They should have had British accents though. Mysterious ancient shifty untrustworthy dudes always work better with British accents.

so glad they DIDN'T do this. Widmore is cliched enough.

Magnus Hanso's backstory: buys slaves, crashlands on island, killed by smoke monster.

When did Richard stop/start/stop/start believing he was in purgatory then? He tells Jack it's a secret he's known for a long time, not a secret he used to believe, then stopped believing for 250 years, then decided might be true after all. And at the end of S5 he told Sun he'd seen watched all the oceanic gang die. What did he mean by that?

I think Richard stopped believing he was in Hell (don't know where purgatory comes in) when Jacob convinced him that MIB was a liar. Now he's having crisis of faith because Jacob is dead--and he's doubting whether anything Jacob told him was true. I doubt there's any more to it than that.

They can't really explain the "I watched them all die" bit without revealing what happened immediately after the Incident/bomb blast and they're not going to do that for a while.

Given that in Jack etc's personal timelines they zapped back to 2007 or whenever, it's possible that Richard thought they were vapourised or something? Would that be ridiculous?

I can't see Jacob being evil or any such thing. We might be meant to wonder about him but loosely he's obv a good guy.

Curious about the knife thing, could sayid have killed flocke with that? I had thought dogen was just lying.

Also seems smokey can appear as people regardless of whether they're on the island, v vague "rules" and loads of misleading bullshit about this...

I just figured purgatory cos he was scared the devil would get him if he went to hell...yet he also seemed to think he was already dead. OH I DON'T KNOW.

yeah I was going to say, are the "rules" coming from anywhere other than viewer speculation?

Would that be ridiculous?

A bit, if only because between seeing them vanish in the 70s and telling Sun they were dead in 2007, he'd seen them all crash on the island and hang round there for a couple of years.

Also seems smokey can appear as people regardless of whether they're on the island

maybe they have to be scanned first. altho Ben did see his Mom on the island without Smokey scanning him...but presumably that was Jacob.

and obv Jack saw his Dad

and kate saw the horse

s(addle)up frackles

I just figured purgatory cos he was scared the devil would get him if he went to hell...yet he also seemed to think he was already dead. OH I DON'T KNOW.

But Jacob told him you're not in hell and you're not dead, and nearly drowned him proving the point.

Yeah yeah, I know, but then he said Jack was dead and implied he'd always known Jack was dead and I just think it was unclear what he was meant to believe and when.

Smokey and Jacob could actually be modern (or future) Americans who somehow ended up on the island because of some time travel thing. The accents seem really out of place when they make the effort for Richard to speak Spanish for most of the episode.

dudes they're mysterious semi-immortal embodiments of good and evil, who knows what kind of accents they're supposed to have?

only 9 episodes left omg

one should have a chorus of harps and angels when he speaks and the other should have evil laughter and the occasional thunderclap

i was just bummed that they got this sorta generic midwestern billy baldwin when all of the egyptian/biblical shit makes me want him to be, like, semitic.

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"dudes they're mysterious semi-immortal embodiments of good and evil, who knows what kind of accents they're supposed to have?"

I think the lack of cursing is hurting it more than accent-accuracy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUI4Txi445o

Richard obviously now thinks it's hell now because he's picked up on being a lapsed Catholic. He went from thinking it was hell to thinking it was purgatory back in ye olde 1800s when Jacob gave him that talk, but the modern Catholic church has been distancing itself from the notion of purgatory, so Richard's new crisis of faith led him back to thinking it was hell.

He obviously is keeping up with Vatican trends on the island.

well, he knew what cyborg zombies were!

he musta learned that in cyborg zombie catechism

i know he's been there a while but i'm not sure richard would have been able to travel to modern day LA so easily. it's like encino man or something.

the education of ricardus

kate's horse joeks on the new podcast (around the 9 minute mark)

i think i'm just gonna give up on the podcast. maybe because i don't like listening to podcasts in general but it really feels like a waste of time to listen to them laugh at themselves and not really give any insight into the show or how they make it

The rules are sort of viewer speculation except all along Christian and ekos brother etc seemed to imply person has to be on the island...like why else write in those bodies being there? I think these areas are where it becomes clear their addiction to making shocking endings and reveals etc means loads of confusion by the end. Eg basically "yeah that was irrelevant" being a fair description for tons of happenings.

Like sayid etc, how does his "possession" differ from dead people? Does anyone think they'll even bother ironing out smokey so he makes some sort of sense...

Only just occurred to me last night but having expected a Jack-Christian confrontation on the island for so long, it's now no longer possible assuming that Christian on-island was always only ever the manifestation of either Smokey (now trapped in Locke form) or Jacob (now dead which presumably prevents him from doing a lot of stuff e.g. appearing as others if he ever did) or both. Just makes explaining the whole deal with Christian ever more pertinent I think.

http://i42.tinypic.com/35jh01u.png

Is that from Hark, a Vagrant?

Yes!

Kate Beaton = <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

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ha ha muy bueno

Hm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8584665.stm

What these two countries mystical entities could not achieve from years of talking, has been resolved by global warming," said Professor Sugata Hazra.

Anyone wishing to visit now, he observed, would have to think of traveling by submarine.

The thing that bugged me apart from the modern accents was when Hurley was repeating Richard's wifes words to him and then just stopped repeating them and he was somehow able to know what she was saying. Apart from that though, good episode.

Haven't the writers already stated the island is not purgatory?

It confused me but I interpreted it as Hurley was saying everything she says but they just didn't show his talking parts because he wasn't the focus of the scene

i don't think they'd just omit his talking parts, i think hurley actually stopped translating. which confused me too. i got the sense richard had somehow become aware of his wife's presence and what she was communicating to him, because he more or less knew when she was done talking and had gone.

nah it was a representation that through Hurley's translation, Richard was able to talk directly with his wife. i.e. Hurley was saying everything she says but they just didn't show his talking parts because he wasn't the focus of the scene

but yes Richard did become aware enough of her that he could tell when she was gone

so i guess jacob saying "they'll live but you'll never be able to see them again" was a description of hurleyvision, and MIB's "i can let you see them again" was his smoke manifestations.

Right now I'm guessing there will be a third magical force on the island besides Jacob and Flocke, represented by Ghost Christian and the blond kid, and the correct choice will be to follow them. like entering the Atrus book at the end of Myst.

if they moved the goalposts one more time in the last 5 episodes or something i would just...spit on my own carpet, i guess.

I've been rewatching the series in recent weeks w/ the intention of coming back around, full-circle, to this season's goings-on at around the same time that the show concludes. Anyway, I've just settled in to the drudgery of early S3 & am full-on into all the lovey dovey FRACKLES Sawyer/Kate banter & ... *VOMITS LUNG*

"One more thing - You taste like strawberries." "You taste like fish biscuits."

are you gonna watch the jack tattoo episode again? shudder