dude what the fuck is wrong with you?
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 00:19 (sixteen years ago)
huh?
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 00:25 (sixteen years ago)
NOT YOU THE SPOILER
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 00:38 (sixteen years ago)
ok nestor you are ridiculous
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 01:39 (sixteen years ago)
Oh smokey u gr8 manipulator you
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 01:40 (sixteen years ago)
guess that wasn't the Black Rock we saw approaching the Island in the ssn 5 finale then
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 01:42 (sixteen years ago)
the island all along may have been a prison colony for an evil spirit, with Jacob as jailer.
Looks like this is the case. And in the alt-timeline will we soon see evil rampant in the world?
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:08 (sixteen years ago)
pretty great tv right there! thanks lost
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:10 (sixteen years ago)
Jacob kicking Richard's ass was pretty unexpected.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:11 (sixteen years ago)
Favorite episode of the season by far.
― Religious Embolism (WmC), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:12 (sixteen years ago)
I'm not feeling positive about that ep.
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:12 (sixteen years ago)
You should consult your Lost analyst.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:15 (sixteen years ago)
Re: Jacob's fighting Richard - I really liked that 150 years ago he actually wasn't quite as mellow as he is now (or as implied in the S5 finale flashback). If anything, he seemed very angry and Shepard-like. But it also very much is in line with his "What about you?" response to Ben's demands for answers in last year's finale.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:16 (sixteen years ago)
loved the scene where richard was riding sawyer thru the jungle
― max, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:18 (sixteen years ago)
Now that we know it was Richard's job to intervene on Jacob's behalf with the people he brought to the island, the last 5 seasons sure do make a lot of sense. lol.
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 02:44 (sixteen years ago)
If Jacob's goal is to keep MIB on the island. And MIB can't leave the island as long as Jacob is alive. And MIB can't kill Jacob himself. Then why is Jacob so eager to bring people to the island and MIB so opposed to it? Because those people Jacob brings are just opportunities for MIB to find his loophole. What's more important to MIB: getting off the island or being right about human nature? And the same question goes to Jacob: Is it more important to keep MIB on island or be right about human nature?
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:09 (sixteen years ago)
That's a solid point right there
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:18 (sixteen years ago)
Loved all the callbacks to Ben's being recruited as the loophole - Isabella/Alex, 'you'll do whatever I ask', etc
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:20 (sixteen years ago)
― Religious Embolism (WmC)
^^
― the rolling bears (Z S), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:21 (sixteen years ago)
Also love the way MIB has adopted the use of self-help pop psychoanalysis for manipulating people in the modern age, whereas in olden times it was religion
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:22 (sixteen years ago)
All the actors were top-notch as well, Carbonell and Welliver especially
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:23 (sixteen years ago)
Fundamentally are people happy that the island is a cork keeping evil trapped? Are people happy with this turn of events?
I'm not. I think it's dumb. I don't think I could ever rewatch seasons 1-4 with that notion in my head.
Hopefully it's a lie.
I really hate being a downer. But I just don't think I like the direction this show is going in.
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:26 (sixteen years ago)
Agree on the acting x-post.
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:27 (sixteen years ago)
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― for me to chilt on (bnw), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:31 (sixteen years ago)
I'll take good vs evil over an endlessly convoluted explanation. obviously you need some tolerance for that to be a fan of this show but I like when its tethered to something simple and clear.
― for me to chilt on (bnw), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:34 (sixteen years ago)
I didn't think I would be down with the show ending up as some big quasi-religion good vs evil thing but the way they presented it is halfway interesting imo
― dmr, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:37 (sixteen years ago)
I'm going to love finding out exactly why MIB is evil incarnate for Jacob, a lot of what MIB has perpetrated onscreen could be put down to his just trying to escape
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:39 (sixteen years ago)
i did like Action Jacob. so much better than Probst Jacob.
― abanana, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 04:34 (sixteen years ago)
100% Kate-free. Coincidence?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 05:07 (sixteen years ago)
this doesn't seem new at all, it just seems like a more clear metaphor for the stuff that was happening with the numbers, etc
― akm, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 05:18 (sixteen years ago)
psst tza look up two posts
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 06:06 (sixteen years ago)
wait... what just happened?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 06:07 (sixteen years ago)
lol caught mistake and deleted
― tehresa, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 06:07 (sixteen years ago)
i mean... nothing. the island didn't want me to say that.
Not a bad episode! Must be a series first with Jack, Sun etc gathering around the camp fire sharing information without Jack punching someone, although still asking ridiculous questions "what do we do next?" "I don't know" "well who DOES know?" I mean who talks like that apart from a 3-year-old?
Explanation for busted statue was a bit lame.
― Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 06:09 (sixteen years ago)
omg tza is a very special boy
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 06:29 (sixteen years ago)
But it does explain why Jacob would build a lighthouse...
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 06:30 (sixteen years ago)
I thought this was totally ridiculous, but I am sort of impressed with how ridiculous they went with it! And the acting was awesome.
It is a seriously weird tonal shift for the show, that's for sure.
So who is "evil"'s mother? (Or was he lying to Kate?) And who is the little boy? And how come Smokey stopped walking around like Titus Welliver? What does the sideways timeline mean?! Damn you, Lindelof and Cuse!
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 06:49 (sixteen years ago)
i really liked this episode! on paper the story was kind of broad and cliche, but the acting saved it and then some.
i thought of this thread at the beginning of the episode, when richard shouted at jack "you want to know the secret i've been keeping??" and jack just looked back at him with infuriating nonchalance. god i want to punch jack in the face.
― the jaws of impermanence and soul death (reddening), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 09:47 (sixteen years ago)
So who is "evil"'s mother?
I've seen casting news on that, but some might consider an actor's name a spoiler.
Maybe Jacob & MIB were fairly normal dudes who ended up on the island in the distant past & got recruited into these roles--much like these new candidates.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 09:56 (sixteen years ago)
There was a kind of hilarious uproar this week when the actress who plays Zoe (the Tina Fey chick) told Us Weekly that she'd received the final scripts for the season and her character was in every scene.
She later clarified that she was only sent the pages in which her character appears.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 11:27 (sixteen years ago)
the stand + trading places = L O S T
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 11:33 (sixteen years ago)
jacob giving MIB the white rock is like the mortimer bros betting a dollar
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 11:35 (sixteen years ago)
i feel ppl that the wine-in-the-bottle thing isnt the best explanation they can come up with (not by a long shot) but this was still a pretty rad episode and the actors sold it well i thought
― max, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 11:42 (sixteen years ago)
lol Keyes i didn't think about that but what a dumbass. i guess that still means she's in multiple scenes, though.
― ronnie james dyao (some dude), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 11:42 (sixteen years ago)
kinda neat after all this time to have nestor & jorge do a scene in spanish together
― ronnie james dyao (some dude), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 11:43 (sixteen years ago)
nestor really went in hard on this episode
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 11:51 (sixteen years ago)
Loved Jacob being a total dick. He doesn't seem that smart though. Or especially "good" - he needs to kill people by crashing their planes/ships on the island, then put more of them at risk of being killed by the smoke monster, so that he can test whether they make the "right" choices, without them knowing that they're being tested, and meanwhile put himself at risk of being killed?
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 11:51 (sixteen years ago)
yeah there's got to be something more that explains his motivations
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:17 (sixteen years ago)
So in Jacob's analogy he (or the candidate) is the bottle, right? The evil can still get out by smashing the bottle.
Anyway, I loved that all this episode did was explored fan theories that were around in Season 1 and still didn't reach any better conclusions than we did at the time. Still think there's potential for purgatory to be the answer and Smokey realising at the end after 'winning' that he can't escape anyway.
― Diamanti Gallas (aldo), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:28 (sixteen years ago)