Ken vs. Boris: It's So On

the BNP guy got 5% of the city and east vote

do we get to make fun of you based on your leaders yet?

West Central is the latest declared, I think.

do we get to make fun of you based on your leaders yet?

Not until November.

Boris Johnson: 46%
Ken Livingstone: 40%
Brian Paddick: 9%

Yeah, that's bad. There aren't gonna be enough 2nd-pref votes if Paddick's only polling in single-figures.

do we get to make fun of you based on your leaders yet?

-- gabbneb, Friday, 2 May 2008 22:25 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

If you haven't been doing that non-stop since the mid 60s, there's something wrong with you.

This should update itself:

http://extras.thelondonpaper.com/elections/images/map.jpg

Who's fault is this going to be then? Paddick for being Nader-y, or fools like me who've gone for the 'there's no way Boris will get 50%, I'll give my first vote to the Greens or German or someone'?

I do believe Enfield and Haringey have held Labour.

^^^guardian agrees

Yeah but Boris isn't going to get 50%.

Is it wrong of me to wish Livingstone had some kind of illegal skulduggery up his sleeve? Greater good, you know. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs.

How do we think the 2nd-choice votes will split? I'm guessing most Green/Respect will be for Ken, and most UKIP/BNP for Boris, and this will more or less cancel out, but what about the Lib Dem votes? For Ken to have any chance he needs to get at least two-thirds of the Lib Dem second choices.

Jona, don't worry, it's entirely the LOL BORIS contingent who we're gonna be beating up on.

NBS, I'm pretty sure I heard (from rubbish sources, admittedly) that the old 'scratch a Lib Dem, find a Tory' thing was true in this case. We have no chance.

Is that really true though? Lib Dems have taken on an awful lot of traditionally left positions in the past 3-4 years.

*cries again*

Lots of people have libdemmed due to war stance who would otherwise go labour.

Tracer, not sure, as I say, it was from a completely non-authoritative source, but Lib Dems tend to be good for civil liberties, not so good for trade union type stuff. My brain no longer works, apologies for crap sentence structure. I'm not even from Lahndan, what am I doing here? *sobs*

If you want to see what a total prick looks like, watch 'blogger' Iain Dale on Sky News reviewing the newspapers.

http://www.labourhome.org/story/2008/5/2/143049/9514

The whole "LOL, BORIS, LEGERND" voters thing is minor. You forget how many reactionary, tax-dodging, poor ppl hatin', 4x4 driving pillocks live in the capital. They just needed a figurehead.

I feel guilty now, i.e. what the pinefox was saying, that I haven't at the very least been stickering everything in sight with "TYPICAL RACIST - FUCK OFF BORIS - TORY TWAT"

Ken is gaining:

Racist bigot: 628,898
People's hero: 601,373
Nader: 141,338

Green have an unofficial pact with Labour - Sian Berry's been urging people to give their 2nd vote to Ken and vice versa. Polls suggest Lib Dems are giving their 2nd choice to Boris by a 4:3 margin. Scum.

FUCK

this map seems encouraging so far at least but no doubt it hides a nightmare somewhere:

http://extras.thelondonpaper.com/elections/images/map.jpg

But those folk would vote Tory anyway. I suppose that the Boris publicity machine drew them out when they might have otherwise not voted, but I can bet that there was a large youth vote that previously would, if voting at all, not have gone so right-wing.

xposts to Bodrick

Nine out of fourteen constituencies declared, according to Sky
FIRST PREFERENCE VOTES:
Boris: 628,896 42%
Ken: 601, 737 40%
Brian P: 141, 338 9%

when will people get it, the liberals are, well, Liberals, and therefore right of centre.

If what Michael Jones says about Lib Dem second prefs holds true, this could be down to literally only dozens of second preference votes.

when will people get it, the liberals are, well, Liberals, and therefore right of centre.

OTFM

(though so are most of Labour these days, gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah)

labour these days are mostly Liberal too

After ten declared:

Blonde: 718,959 (43%)
Bald: 659,311 (39%)
Centre parting: 166,347 (10%)

Hence my use of the word 'stance'...

COME ON KEN

FFS there have to be more 2nd-choicers for ken??? i.e. send a message to the incumbent but play a safety as well????

Are they even counting seconds yet?

when will people get it, the liberals are, well, Liberals, and therefore right of centre.

-- Ed, Friday, 2 May 2008 22:50

Depends what you mean by "liberal". There's free-market liberals, hippy liberals and everything inbetween.

capital 'L' is significant

Charles Kennedy was against the war in Iraq and wanted a 50p tax rate for the super-rich. It's not cut-and-dry though, sure.

pintofbeer.jpg

i fucking hate this, he's going to get it you know he will - big old dopey, sheepish, coddled man-child boris

80 per cent of first choice votes in, R4 say Boris leading.

The four left to declare all have Boris in the lead. If it's tight, we're going to a second preference count.

I managed to let go in the pub, I'm not going to look at this thread for as long as I can bear to. Paying attention will be the equivalent of watching England play a penalty shootout against Portugal or Germany that you know full well they are going to lose, but without the small consolation of knowing that it doesn't really matter.

Boris leads the 'London South West' constituency with 90,061 first preference votes.

Still doesn't take him to 50%.

He won't get 50% of first choice votes, only some moran at ES who forgot there were more than two candidates thought he would get more than 50%

After 11 constituencies decalred:

Have I Got News For You: 804,439 (42%)
Have I Got Newts For You: 709,929 (37%)
Have I Got Dead Brazilians For You: 187,158 (10%)

James, you are delivering the lols.

No, Boris is. HE IS A LEGERND!!!

John Biggs (Lab) 63,635 (34.69%, +5.59%)
Phil Briscoe (C) 32,082 (17.49%, -0.65%)
Hanif Abdulmuhit (Respect GG) 26,760 (14.59%)
Robert Bailey (BNP) 18,020 (9.82%)
Rajonuddin Jalal (LD) 13,724 (7.48%, -6.46%)
Heather Finlay (Green) 11,478 (6.26%, -0.38%)
Tom Conquest (CPA) 7,306 (3.98%, +0.57%)
Mick McGough (UKIP) 3,078 (1.68%, -12.07%)
Graham Kemp (NF) 2,350 (1.28%)
Michael Gavan (Left List) 2,274 (1.24%)
John Griffiths (Eng Dem) 2,048 (1.12%)
Julie Crawford (Ind) 701 (0.38%)
Lab maj 31,553 (17.20%)
3.12% swing C to Lab
Electorate 470,863; Turnout 183,456 (38.96%, +9.03%)

bold indicates cuntybollocks

where is that?