A new 30 Rock thread because I can't find the old one

I think it was DAN Goose, lol

lolz u rite

i meant 2 type dan

this storyline is not promising

Floyd DeBarbra.

worth it just for the in-unison "we have to ELM STREET this"

a nearly died at the Senators "pump-up" song!

That was my favorite part.

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Love Tina's Tracy impersonation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgOeAofwq-w

Crap. See if this works:

http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/AOL Television/tina-fey-on-late-show-32410-tvs-top-5/73742349001

Maybe this:

http://insidetv.aol.com/2010/03/25/tina-fey-does-tracy-morgan-on-letterman-video/

that was hilarious: k-date.

really hope that the dramatic cello scoring before jack said Lutz augurs something

I didn't pay super close attention but I thought the joke there was that Jack didn't care enough to learn Toofer's name.

Nah, it was indicating Jack/Lutz beef, which I'm pretty sure is a loltastic throwaway gag.

just generally the way everyone thinks about Lutz

oh sure but it seemed nemesis level lutz beef
thought this was one of the funniest eps for forever anyhow. kenneth's seriously.

ok is hulu fucking down or

so if my grandfather hadnt gotten on the train that day, he never would have met his wife...'s murderer

Show's on fire again lately. ON FIRE.

yeah this was my favorite ep of the season so far, Laurie and I were howling at the Cloverfield prank.

Liz still has some of the best lines. This show is consistently funnier than The Office.

i thought this was the worst episode of the season and the stuff with Floyd sucked (apart from his surname and his funny voice he did on the phone).

did anyone check out to see if dicknews.com is in use

floyd beating up on liz was brutal and actually affecting and reminiscent of relationships. 'weekday sex' was hilarious too.

xp dickviews!, no?

This show is consistently funnier than The Office.

― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:57 PM (7 minutes ago)

this is...an understatement

This show is consistently funnier than The Office.

Hasn't that always been the case?

Pizza is consistently better than dogshit

NBC does own dickviews.com (registered on January 25th) but there's no website there.

this episode was only okay -- first episode ever written by a P4ul4 P3ll right?

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thank you

Who knew that Sexy Kenneth Dancing was missing from my life?

http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=972

i'm not sure if anyone wants to discuss the feminism of liz lemon on our 30 rock joke thread, but w/e i have nothing else to do -- anyway

The character of Liz Lemon is played by beautiful, successful, smart, funny, apparently happy person Tina Fey, and is meant to be unattractive, only semi-successful, smart, funny, and unhappy. It’s interesting that “smart” and “funny” get to stay in the picture, as long as the looks, the success, and the happiness are toned down; it tells you something about who you’re allowed to like.

maybe i'm misreading this, but this is fundamentally misunderstanding the character of liz lemon? the character is obv (generally) based on tina fey's time as head writer of snl, & "smart" and "funny" get to stay in the picture because those are constant intrinsic characteristics of tina fey. "the looks, the success and the happiness" are toned down because presumably those things were less present when fey was a workaholic head writer who (we are led to believe) ate poorly, dressed poorly and didn't have time for men or friends because she her career was her number one priority. that's the tina fey we see, not the one who turned all of that stuff into being a sex symbol and a movie and tv star. they are, pretty much, different people, and one should be able to separate the two feys. & also i think we can like both feys!

also i think the whole crux of the article being "well, tina fey is pretty!!" again misses the point that the liz lemon character is a past tense portrayal of tina fey when she was a head writer who wore glasses and had brown hair and a prominent scar on her face. this type of person is not a sex symbol in entertainment (still), and yes, now tina fey herself is a sex symbol, but i don't see why it's so hard to believe that she was insecure about her own looks (despite her prettiness) when she was a head writer at snl, which is the tina fey that we see on 30 rock.

as for the rest of it, well i don't know enough about feminism to accurately parse it. but her characterization of liz lemon/tina fey is wrong.

Yeah that's pretty much what I thought when I was reading it.
Also, I don't really want my comedy shows to be nicely representative - re Cerie, if being dumb at your job makes a good comedy character then I'm happy with that (every character on the show is inept in some way). Also I knew a girl who was kind of exactly like that, just didn't bother at work because she didn't have to because all the guys fell over themselves to talk to her. It sounds like an unsurprising stereotype but it was actually pretty odd to see day to day in real life.

where the hell has cerie been recently, or am i forgetting that she died or something?

She married an heir to the Xerox family fortune.

who the hell even are you people that you give a fuck about 'Cerie'. she's had what like 4 funny lines in the history of the show?

eh she's a character, however insignificant, on my favorite show. and she's hot

This is a lot of retrospective rationalizing about why they don't think the show is funny anymore (that's my guess, TLDR).

cerie's funny. it's like pointing at the straight man in a routine and being all why is that guy even there he's totally boring. so much of the schlumpy liz lemon persona is predicated/illustrated on people drooling over cerie instead.

what is the liz lemony schlump persona predicated on?

my antisocial gravitation towards ilx; it's like my k-date, the personals section of the kraft foods website.

Also probably Tina Fey's pre-SNL years as a (slightly) more schlumpy improv comedian. She has mentioned how she deliberately changed her image once she came to NY to be more glamorous/conventially better looking. I do wonder how different the show would be now if Dratch was able to stay on vs. Krakowski. This video was linked in the comments to that post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvOUoYZhoU

Dratch is a terrible actor, ergo the show wouldn't be anywhere near as good.

"Everyone around here is slender or Asian; I'm going to have to become more slender and/or Asian to fit in."

see, there's that Liz Lemon racial insensitivity for yas

wow short hair REALLY not a good look for her

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