What states do you consider to be part of the Midwest?

The only problem with turning into a Craftsman Bungalow during a full moon is rearranging all the built-ins afterward.

feels pretty great lakes to me, actually. no grain silos here, just factories and werehouses.

― iiiijjjj, Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:52 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Totally, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo. They all have the same feel to me, I've had to good fortune to have spent a lot of time in all of them. Milwaukee is much more like Buffalo than it is like DesMoines or Omaha, trust me.

lol bootheel

http://www.commoncensus.org/maps/nfl_1280.gif

bit annoying that the squares for the cities are placed arbitrarily on the map instead of correct location but the influence shading is whats interesting of course

Iowans are a divided bunch when it comes to NFL! (as are Angelenos)

weird how coastal carolina is all skins fans. what a waste of their own perfectly awful franchise.

If you think that's bad, you should see our baseball allegiances.

(It's mostly love the Cubs and hate the Cards, or vice versa.)

I used to live in Iowa: Bears, Chiefs, Vikings, Packers Country. No Rams, of course.

Actually there may be rams fans there now, post-Warner. I lived there pre-Warner.

here is one for baseball

http://www.commoncensus.org/maps/mlb_1280.gif

it actually has you a lot less divided w cubs being predominant

The Midwest is less a region and more a state of mind.

We of the midwest are more characterized by our differences than what we have in common. Because of this natural tendancy to try and find commonality in a seemingly arbitrarily assigned group, we thus ask eachother and often disagree on what exactly constitutes "The Midwest" in the first place. Anyone from our neck of the woods can tell you at least one diffence between two given states, but as we geographically narrow down, that same person may be able to give a dozen differences between one county and the next, and a veritable littany differences between one town and another not 7 seven miles away.

don't know where else to put this

http://fakeisthenewreal.org/img/reform/electoral10-1100.jpg

what's with all these hippy state names

tribute to steve shasta imo

i hope 'firelands' is a tribute to the flaming cuyahoga

"King" as in Creole, not MLK I'm guessing

This has probably been argued to death upthread, but as someone who grew up in SE Ohio, I have to say that part of OH is NOT midwestern. Appalachian all the way. And KY is Southern, don't be crazy ppl.

Love that Chicago is in the state of Gary.

actually i think chicago is its own thing, just surrounded by gary

The Firelands refers to an area of Ohio where people from Connecticut were resettled after their towns were burned by the British during the Revolutionary War.

that is kind of great

sad that their towns got burned and then they had to become browns fans tho

maybe THAT's why they're called the browns

yknow like they're charred from being burned

...

I'll leave

anyway Mendocino is lame I'd rather live in Shasta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_KeqmdiQoY

no wai

Salt Lake should really be a patchwork of odd principalities and city-states like Hapsburg Germany

it would be if not for the roman empire of exxon mobil uniting the peasants under common cause

it does nail down how a handful of ppl from shiprock/salt lake/ogalalla are sending a bunch of senators to dc

This has probably been argued to death upthread, but as someone who grew up in SE Ohio, I have to say that part of OH is NOT midwestern. Appalachian all the way. And KY is Southern, don't be crazy ppl.

pretty much agree, though cincinnati/SW ohio where i grew up is midwestern with strong appalachian influences. and despite being next to kentucky it's not southern at all. appalachian and southern aren't mutually exclusive, though they can be. fwiw appalachian refugees moved to detroit to work in the car factories too and michigan's as midwest as you can get. regional roots get twisted is all

my son reports that one of his hs classmates (in nyc) said this week "maryland's in the midwest right?" lol provincialism

Werethey talking about athletic.conferences? Because I could undersand some confusion on that point.

that would make sense but apparently this is a girl who also famously said "oh the yankees that's a football team right?"

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/what-states-are-in-the-midwest/

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/hickey-map-midwest-1.png?w=610&h=569

do MN folks consider themselves midwesterners or Great Plainers?

having lived in both KS and IL recently, the places don't share a culture. KS is wild west, IL is calm farmland + urbanity. I think of the strip from ND down into TX as a single unit, the plains, maybe including MO and AR as part of that. Big 12 country, more or less, before things went bonkers.

every time i haved talked to minnesota folks about whether ohio (where i'm from) is part of the midwest they always say "no, that's east coast"

ha really? i would call it midwest for sure, def not east coast

i guess as mn dude i think of us as midwest, def dont think many people here consider themselves great plains

Great Lakes >>>> Great Plains

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Hm well that didn't work.

yeah i am down with the great lakes description for sure

Another map that fucks up upper michigan. Idiots.

Anyway no way Montana is part of the Midwest. I drive between WA and Michigan every summer or so and this map from last week of baseball team affiliation pretty much sums up my interpretation about the divide between the Midwest and Northwest in terms of terrain and general disposition - the Twins area is the Midwest, the Mariners area is Northwest, and central Montana is some sort of netherworld purgatory

http://i.imgur.com/ZmPJ0m0.png

does that map say no one is a fan of the mets

netherworld purgatory

see also Virginia and lol.

No love for the A's either. In no way shape or form is Pennsylvania part of the Midwest.

cubs/brewers/tigers/twins = def midwest

i guess when i think of Midwest what i'm really thinking of is Upper Midwest: eastern bits of the Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, maybe Iowa and northern Illinois (really just Chicagoland)

Missouri/Indiana/greater Illinois....that's like a whole other, distinct region to me

and Ohio has always seemed too far east to me to count and yet it seems the most quintessentially midwestern? i never know what to do with Ohio

i do agree with that 538 thing inasmuch as Iowa is The Midwestern State (more so than Illinois imo)

how could anyone be in any doubt that wisconsin is part of the midwest? have they BEEN here?

also who in hell thinks west virginia is the midwest? it was part of virginia, one of the original colonies, for chrissakes.

Southern Illinois is more of a border south area, as is true of southern Indiana. Calling Kentucky a Midwestern state is, as amply pointed out already, insane. Iowa is the very heart of the Midwest.

does that map say no one is a fan of the mets

― j., Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:35 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think there were any districts in which the mets had a larger fanbase than the yankees, no. not even in the neighborhoods surrounding the mets ballpark.

yeah states should be evaluated by how similar they are to Iowa