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Things I need to change with this sock:

1. Toe increases will be done with a kfb increase, rather than M1, which MAKES HOLES, if I wanted holes I'd do a yarn over, you know... kfb will of course leave a BAR but we will just have to see whether that is better than holes (I think it will be).

2. I need a stretchier cast off! I can barely get the first sock over my heel. I might still see if I can unpick the cast off (is this mega difficult?) and do another type - if indeed there IS another type...

― Sarah, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

yay sock!

I've been working out my kufi pattern and my own new purse (sewing) pattern so the sock is sitting on my nightstand, splayed out by it's bamboo stick rack.

Nath, the bamboos you sent me are the longest needles I have! How long are your usual metal and plastics ones??

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah: I had to do that once: I had to undo the bind off, and then I reknit the ribbing more loosely, and then did the bind off extra loose, too. You could also try it with a size larger needles, too. Were these toe-up socks? 'Cause that's the only time I had the 'oh no I can't get this on my foot!!!" problem.

I like the colors of yr sock.

― tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

I have since found out there's another type of cast off, it's on my delicious (I hope I put it there anyway), I'll check it out. I did try it with a size larger needle but obviously NOT LARGE ENOUGH. Yep, they are toe-up socks. I am a complete convert to the way of the toe-up and who cares about loose toe stitches, NOT ME. The ribbing is OK (as I tried them on before casting off), it's just the cast off that has no give.

I plan to wear the socks out to a NU RAVE once they are finished (except I guess nu rave will probably be over in a couple of weeks so KNIT FAST young jedi).

― Sarah, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

I second doing the cast off with larger needles. I always tend to cast off too tight and would probably cut my leg circulation off with such a sock.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone ever tried an *elastic finish*? It's with a needle and you basically sew/knit every stitch. It's superhard but once you understand how it works, it goes pretty fast but you have to keep with the program. (So no chattering for me as I then forget where I am.)

― stevienixed, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a brief guide to this online but didn't "get" it - am going to search for me but think I might need lots of pictures at least, unless anyone can actually demonstrate how this works.

― Sarah, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

nath, you are so advanced.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

OK guys, you should be getting your matches through next week.

― Sarah, Friday, 30 March 2007 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

incidentally, my completed sock is now encasing my camera.

i am going to buy a new case today.

my shift key isn't working!!! Oh yes it is. How strange.

― Sarah, Friday, 30 March 2007 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

There's an alapaca farm ten minutes or so from my house - I think I'm going to go visit next month now that the weather is nice. And maybe buy some yarn.

― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I am in complete DESPAIR! I followed the Debbie Bliss cardigan (with moss stitch band) pattern but I *knew* something was wrong. So I had to calculate, one of my FORTES (har har), and sort of wing it. :-( So I had to frog about ten centimeters and now I don't know if I will manage to do the neck band on my own. Maybe I'll ask help on the knit list or ask my teacher (in three fucking weeks! it(s holiday) WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO GO WRONG SIMULTANEOUSLY. BOO HOO. I really feel as though everything is collapsing. *sigh*

The elastic finish is sort of knitting but it isn't completely. I could demonstrate it (video clip stylee) but explaining? Ai ai ai no, I don't think so. If anyone really wants to know, I could translate and email it to you!

Advanced, moi? Ah no. Not by a long shot. I was *casting off* instead of decreasing the neckband. Well, only the first two rows. I quickly realized I was doing it wrong. heh. I have a looong way to go.

I really do need to persevere. Feeling crap is not helping. :-(

― nathalie, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

maybe cast on something new and put aside the cardigan for the time being.

i'm going to have a treat to send you soon nath but I don't think I have your address! (no return on the box.)

― Ms Misery, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

Aha! :-D A small package will do. My address is. Well, email me. :-) stevienixed @ gmail.com
But you don't *have* to. Only when you have time and money (postage can be *cruel*). :-)

― stevienixed, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

yarn.com is having a massive sale, including stuff like Cascade 220 and 220b superwash (plus more exotic stuff too). might be a way to make a dream project more affordable!

― patita, Monday, 2 April 2007 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

So, I was doing the m1 increase wrong. I've been shown how to do it over the weekend and now I can do it perfectly! Sock number 2 now looks so much better than sock number 1. Argh.

Also I have done in my shoulder a bit - I thought it might have been due to running, ie I am not stretching my upper body, but then my friend said "yes, I get that when I knit on anything apart from circulars" and I realised that it twinges when I get into the position I knit in! Bl00dy hell. This has never happened before. Not fair!

Sock 2 is going great strides though, am impressed with self.

I found the wool I needed for the vintage jacket I linked to on another thread, in a shop (hadn't actually seen it before). It is nice. This does not change the fact that the total cost for it would be £50ish. Do you think that I should order it in bits and bobs and spread the cost (and dye lots) out? Hmm? No? OKAY THEN.

― Sarah, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

DAMMIT

the ladies of knitty.com will be at our LYS the weekend I've already made plans to go visit my brother. :(

I left my knitting at home today so on my way to a dr's office stopped and. . .bought a book! forgot how fun reading on the bus is.

― Ms Misery, Monday, 2 April 2007 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, I'm definitely doing m1 wrong. I should sit down with someone who knows what they are doing, as not being able to m1 kills a lot of patterns. Glad to see there is hope for correcting! Sorry that knitting posture is not working for you :(

Sam, I think I'll be there for the knitty book signing thing. I'm tempted to take one of the classes (subbing other fibers for wool), but it seems kind of expensive.

― patita, Monday, 2 April 2007 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

OK - here is how to do an M1!

1. Get to where you want to increase.
2. Look between yr stitches, you will see the BAR from the row below
3. Take the LEFT needle...
4. Pick up the bar FROM THE BACK going towards the front...
5. So you have an extra stitch on the LEFT needle...
6. Which will look twisted, BUT...
7. This is not a problem! Knit through the front of this as usual

And ta da! You have MADE ONE.

I was always picking up with the right needle, sticking it on the left and knitting as per. Hence HOLES blergh.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

I can do this but I do it slightly different than what the teacher taught us. I think I do 4 differently: I pick it up *normally* but then twist it around or something.

― nathalie, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

I can confirm that my way works - it was like a magic knitting lightbulb turning on; share the light! :)

― Sarah, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

haha I am just doing it a bit more *roundabout*. It's the same thing but I pick it up and then twist it or something.

I need to really *attack* my knitting projects. The last couple of weeks I felt completely UTTERLY crap so didn't feel like knitting. But I have managed to do a bit of the Sublime sailor sweater for my baby. :-) It's quite a *thin* thread so it goes rrreally slow.

― nathalie, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I don't quite get those m1 instructions. I'll have to try it with my needles.

k, even if I wasn't going out of town I probably wouldn't go to the knitty weekend b/c of $$. but the alternate fiber class does sound fun.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I'm trying that method when I get home tonight! THanks for writing it out, Sarah!

Sam, it turns out that the woman who is teaching the alternate fiber class wrote the book "No Sheep For You" (it's reviewed in the current knitty)... so it's possible to get the info from a book. whee!

― patita, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be quite tight and you might have to mangle it a bit, but this is the thing that stops the holes so it's swings and rahndabahts, tweacle.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

molly, pls describe your etsy experience. How much did you have to pay them? what did you charge for shipping? do you plan on doing it again.

I'm thinking of trying to sell some purses (sewn) there.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

etsy is great! i've been on for less than a month, and sold 2 dishcloths. i also got really nice feedback from someone who bought a dishcloth. yay! crafting!

it's a 20 cent listing fee, and there's a small transaction fee when you do sell something (i can't remember the exact percentage, but it's 18 cents for a $5 item). you get billed once a month, and they send you an email before they do.

i charge a dollar for shipping (when it's only 87 cents). think of that extra 13 cents as going toward the listing fee.

also, make sure to give your purses good tags, otherwise people won't be able to find your stuff as easily.

― molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, I totally just knitted a sock! this one It only took about an hour and a half and it was surprisingly easy! I hope the other one goes just as well.

― Madchen, Saturday, 7 April 2007 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Second sock done! And it is about a centimetre longer than the other one, whoops. I think I must have missed out a couple of rows somewhere in the first sock. Oh well, I'm sure little Esther upstairs will accept them graciously.

― Madchen, Monday, 9 April 2007 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

Am I the only moron who can't seem to measure properly? Should I just pin the garment and then measure it? But what about measuring something that's on the needles?!? I really am at a loss. Maybe Is houldn't worry so much as I think I only did 1 cm wrong (as far as I can tell) for something that measures about 27 cm. Harumph! But I'm advancing on the marine sweater: I am currently doing the sleeves. Then I only (hah! only!) need to do the collar which seems to be the hardest part of the whole thing and seam it together.

I still haven't gotten word from my Debbie Bliss yarn. :-(

― nathalie, Monday, 9 April 2007 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

maybe I should do a baby sock just to get the technique down right.

nath, pinning sounds good, to stretch it out a bit.

― Ms Misery, Monday, 9 April 2007 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

did I miss the matchups for the mad gifting?

― patita, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think they have happened unless I have also missed them. were they being emailed? (I'm pretty clueless these days)

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't receive anything. Mebbe we're not part of the clique. ;-)

― nathalie, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think we are the clique :)

― patita, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Urgh, count me out. I almost finished seaming the marine sweater. I was right: the front is longer than the back. How stupid of me. I also feel completely bummed out and if I really did what I wanted: chuck everything out. I feel as though I'm not advancing at all and I will never be able to knit properly. :-((((((((

― nathalie, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Try keeping a row count next time, it's more accurate than measuring, I find.

― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

So you would count from the cast-on row? That'd make more sense (for me) as I'm sh#t at measuring. :-(

― nathalie, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah get one of those little clickers and click every new row. Nath, you have been amazing at learning to knit.

― Ms Misery, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, my fault, I haven't matched people yet, blame the holidays and subsequent back to work rush... THIS WEEK, I'll send them out, honestly!

My own knitting news = turned heel of second sock yesterday, am up the ankle ("up the ankle"!! sounds horrible!!) - this sock has been SO unpainful! I can't believe how awesome toe up socks are. I want to weep for my previous cuff down struggles!

― Sarah, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Nath you could try one of those row pendant things, you stick it round your neck and click it at the end of each row (if you remember - I suspect personally I would feel a) silly and b) forget to click it ANYWAY) grr.

― Sarah, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

xpost :-( I really don't think so. Maybe I set my expectations way too high. I always feel abit of a post-knitting depression when I finish something.

Sarah, I'm very good at keeping row counts: I scribble more than I knit. heh

― nathalie, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Nath here is my question. I went to Brussels. There was stuff in French. There was stuff in ANOTHER LANGUAGE. Was that Dutch or Flemish? A 'friend' thinks the opposite to I. Can you confirm?

Also I found no yarn shops in Bruxelles. Plenty of lace (PROPER lace) shops. However I don't give a fig for lace. I was disappointed, I wanted to come back and get you to translate incomprehensible instructions for me.

HOLIDAY YARN SHOPPING I HAVE DONE = a bunch of random market stall acrylic to make katamari prince with, erm... well I looked in ONE yarn shop in erm, Limoges?? maybe, it wasn't very good, and, er... hmm! I should try harder...

― Sarah, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Nath, I think the post-project letdown is understandable. Sometimes it's hard to get started on something new. but this hardly means you're not a comptent knitter.

I've been having general project let-down all around not just with yarn. General malaise and ickiness. might be chemical/medicine related. *sigh* Whatever it is my sewing room is a mess of unfinished crap and balls of yarn languish throughout the house.

― Ms Misery, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.pacificwoolandfiber.com/images/Knitting%20Needles/rotally.jpg

I must have about ten of these.

I scribble more than I knit

Haha, me too!. My knitting notebooks is 95% lists of numbers.

― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

this is the one I use, mostly b/c the click is rewarding:

http://www.angelyarns.com/images/access/clover-counter.jpg

― Ms Misery, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, Flemish is a dialect, very similar to Dutch. Dutch is our official language. So if it's something you saw printed then it most probably was Dutch. (Only very few texts are in Flemish.)

I showed the marine sweater to my teacher. Everyone admired it... Except her. She said the finish was crap (not in so many words, actually in more words:"This shouldn't be done by someone who's taking a knitting course). I then asked her if the problem could be that the front was longer than the back and she said yes. Ah well. A pro will be able to tell the mistake but I doubt anyone else could (even if you're a bit more advanced).

I just need to persevere and get a row counter. :-)

― stevienixed, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, that row counter for the needle is crap, btw. I have one but it's neglected. :-) I need a bigger one. Or just scribble like I'm used to. :-)

― stevienixed, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

:-( I did very well on a Lana Grossa cardigan until I had to knit the front and back together. :-((( I used a needle which was much too thin. I dropped one of the double stitches (it's made with a double thread) but I fixed that more or less. But it looks a bit off, I think. Also I think I did wrong when I cast off the back part of the collar. *sigh* Please tell me that you girls also had such setbacks. I really feel like giving up even though I realize I'm probably setting my standards way too high. It's just... When I listened to the teacher I felt as though I was a complete klutz and I am very ~~scared~~ nervous about showing it to her. She's really a great teacher but seems a bit strict. :-( LE FRIGGING SIGH.

That said, I ~~can't~~ give up since I received a massive amount of Debbie Bliss yarn. I think I'll need a talk with my teacher about how crap I am and if she's willing to guide me. :-) Then again the course is almost finished! Two months and it's finito (until september.... if I enroll in the second year, but I think I will). :-)

SEND ME SOME GOOD VIBES and tell me I'm being silly. :-(

― nathalie, Thursday, 19 April 2007 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

(man)It's probably your hormones luv(/man) :)

Nath, you are way more advanced than the rest of us and all your photos have seemed great! And you're ALWAYS going to pick your projects apart way more than anyone else does. I've made a cardigan where the left front and right from turned out to have about two inches difference, and the back was longer than the front, and the sleeves got twisted somehow... it's all part of the process innit.

― Sarah, Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

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