High Fidelity: Classic Or Dud?

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fun fact: one of the proclaimers is married to a dwarf.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i apologise for all derogatory mentions of scots culture (apart from the music-related ones as scotland has a higher ratio of shit music/good music ratio than anywhere else in the world, imho)

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

N is indeed wise..

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

A certain ratio of ratio?

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Knocking the poor and homeless is the 'new' thing, don't you know? Classism's all the rage nowadays.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I was more bothered/surprised by the 'knock the poor and homeless' connotations of the heroin and Tennents Super thing, but hey, I'm English.

i mentioned golf, too. i knocked the middle classes.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Eventually.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, so golf is only for the middle classes then hmmmmmm?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway - I'm sorry. It was meant for the female ferret thread.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

and i think everyone is forgetting that scotland also gave us calum, so i think i'm entitled to say whatever the hell i like.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

When you go, will you send back, a midget from America.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

THIS IS WHY NICK HORNBY SHOULD BE DESTROYED! HE'S LIKE THE SERPENT IN OUR GARDEN OF EDEN AND WE ARE ALL ASHAMED OF OUR NAKEDNESS!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Lauren, I kiss you for that information!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Mikey I am posting that on the laugh out loud thread!

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Being overdramatic? I have put up and shut up with too much (anti-scottish rascism, anti-black rascism) and have only recently began standing up for myself. I've had my say now, the hackles are going down, and I'm going home to put my rangers top on and open another twenty deck.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

(I actually like High Fidelity, I recognised a lot of myself in it though it pains me to says so, and the film worked as well in Chicago as it would have in London, or Edinburgh, which is why this is all very silly)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I quite liked it too, though I don't know what I'd think if I read it now, with all the Hornby-hating that has been fed to me by this evil board.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes rumpy, you are on an internet forum where ppl will take the piss and wind you up. They may have those opinions, but i seriously doubt it. All i meant is that by responding the way you have you have made them worse. I am not suggesting you put up & shut up about racism, all i'm saying is look at where it is coming from, i.e. ilx, home of piss taking & wind ups.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Nooooo Rumpy, not the Rangers top, anything but that!

Actually, going by Dave's earlier comments on football, shouldn't we hate each other?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Is High Fidelity the first (only?) rom-com aimed at blokes?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

jesus christ get over it rumpy - you experience more "racism" (and this is a stupid word to use in this context - go for regional bigotry, instead) as an english person in scotland than you'll ever get as a scottish person anywhere else in the world.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently.... two words - Rosary Beads. And on that note...

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Ew ew ew! You are so not haveing that as the last word. You know you should tell that story on here one time, I bet it'll be up there with the Cheese Fry story....

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

These bleads?
x-post

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't say I've experienced any anti-English bigotry from being an English person in Scotland, but maybe I move in Anglophile circles. Oh, there was one bloke in a pub who laughed about hating me for being English, but I don't think he was serious. It's all talk.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

as was that... i just love the double standard scots have about this stuff.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Scottish music is all shit. I mean what have we ever achieved apart from the Incredible String Band, Alex Harvey, John Martyn, Gerry Rafferty, the Average White Band, the Poets, the Buzz, Frankie Miller, early Simple Minds, Ivor Cutler, the Fire Engines, Orange Juice, Josef K, early Aztec Camera, the Cocteau Twins, the Associates, Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Jesus and Mary Chain, Primal Scream, the Scars, Positive Noise, Leisure Process, Win, Nectarine No 9, the Commotions element of Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, the Delgados, Brian Connolly, Teenage Fanclub, the Pastels, the Vaselines, Future Pilot AKA, Bobby Wellins, Bill Wells, Marmalade, Lulu and Franz Ferdinand? Eh?

OK, admittedly you might have a problem with Middle Of The Road or the Bay City Rollers...

― Jesus H. Clapton, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

See what you've done now Rumpy?! Forgive her ILX, she's new...

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

uh, Capercailie.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

wet wet wet

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

RUNRIG

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

and apologies for being rude - i'm in a bad mood this morning. you can do what a friend of mine did when he took me into his local in govan last year, took me round and introduced me to people saying: "this is dave, he's english but he's alright!" so as i didn't get chinned.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

British people are funny.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Racist.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(cries)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Scotland's still largely run by a government and fed by a media that's 500 miles away. I think that's the difference. It's usual for people in such a position will have some mild resentment. Making remarks the other way around 'to get your own back' just sounds crass. Basically, I think you misunderstand the 'too English' thing - I usually understand it as "Ach, I get enough of this culture as it is", not a "The English culture sucks per se."

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Celtic baby.

(xpost, although I kind of wish it wasn't)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I reckon the SPL will be a two horse race next year.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, N. is displaying Confucius like wisdom today…

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

are those the only two possible readings of "it's too english"? couldn't it mean "i don't particularly care for products of enlish culture/it's not my thing/i'm not a fan" (which is far from equaling "english culture sucks")

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Scotland's still largely run by a government and fed by a media that's 500 miles away

we can also easily substitute "run" for "subsidised". rough with the smooth's what i say.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow -- this thread is not really about crap Hornby!

This debate seems to have happened before. More than once maybe.

N. is right about the quality of Romy & Michelle.

― the bluefox, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Well OK, any of those things too - none are offensive in the way what Dave said back was.

Dave - can Scotland have the North Sea oil revenues, then?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave, enough is enough, she's gone now, give it up.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I reckon the SPL will be a two horse race next year

Yeah, Celtic and Dundee United (or Hearts).

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

nick is soooo right about romy & michelle vs. grosse point blank.

xpost

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

(Actually, it's worth pointing out that tuition fees and Section 28 were abolished in Scotland years ago and one of those looks set to never happen in England so you're not suffering under the jackboot of central government that much)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I am now going to count to ten then leave this thread and never come back.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

as far as i'm concerned north sea oil is british.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

like we all should be rather than concentrating on stupid english v shcots battles that don't bloody exist any more

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

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