Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I definitely heard "carrots"

that dude never ate a carrot in his life,yo

xp Me too.

WTF ARE CHEESE CARROTS?

THIS IS MAKING ME SO MAD RIGHT NOW

THIS SHOULD SETTLE THE DEBATE:

CHEESE CURDS ARE AN ACTUAL THING
CHEESE CARROTS ARE NOT

pasteles are tamales sorta. NOT CARROT guyz

I just listened to it again and it is definitely not "cheese curls".

http://hostedmedia.reimanpub.com/TOH/Images/Photos/37/exps16108_CW10200C36A.jpg

they exist!

hahaha ok curds is fine, I even asked my wife "did he just say "cheese carrots?"

PS I am willing to forgive Brits for thinking he said "cheese carrots" because "cheese carrots" are probably an actual food item in the "UK" (like some kind of disgusting candy I'm guessing)

When I listened to it just now I will admit that it sounded like "carrots" initially, but "curds" was also plausible.

I didn't even hear that line last night.

Use your IMAGINATION, Nick.

It's like icing carrots:
http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2007/02/16/ry0401_carrotcake_lg.jpg

I am not a Brit and thus unforgivable xxp

Don't remember the line from last night, but maybe it was "cheese, carrots,..."

I just assumed is was like diced carrots covered in cheddar like some dr. strongo's neuvo cuisine shit

I just listened to it again (11min,52sec) and he's doing some weird Tuvan throat thing where there's definitely a "smokey" presence saying carrots in addition to the regularly voiced curds.

Jacob is a curd man, apparently.

Thought this was the best sideways flash yet, mostly because Dr Linus was lol and him and Arszt buddying up was totally lol.

Not much actually happened in this one but it was still enjoyable if only because Michael Emerson is so great. Still, for the last few minutes I was totally expecting him to get shot because he'd just gone through his whole redemption - either by Ilana or the sub crosshair. Still, good to see the sub CGI is still reliably shit.

Liked existential crisis Richard as well. I hope we do get an episode that explains the Black Rock at the very least (ie what it's doing in the middle of the island).

The Sawyer episode should give us the biggest clue as to when the timelines divided - it sort of hinges over whether Locke's dad is an arsehole conman or not, because Sawyer's parents were already dead by the time the bomb went off. Or at least I think they were, if someone could clear that up it'd be good.

I hope this series ends with Miles sitting on a big pile of diamonds being sarcastic all day.

Also I hope the Widmore ending paves the way for DESMOND to return to the island. There's been nowhere near enough Desmond in this series.

Desmond is in the cast for the season, so it's fair to say that we'll see more of him.

I think Desmond and Jin have been the only characters on this show that while waiting to reunite with a loved one weren't totally annoying about it.

Also Sawyers parents def died before the incident. He talked about it during his "What's Done is Done" speech in seas 5 finale.

I hope we do get an episode that explains the Black Rock at the very least (ie what it's doing in the middle of the island).

I'd guess the island got moved via donkey wheel once and wound up right under a ship.

but we saw the ship sailing towards the island

i'd give alex a recommendation

heyo

did anyone else find the sub scene to be reminiscent of desmond's drunken return to the island at the end of season two? it's probably just my imagination, but i'm still holding out hope for the return of des...

I'd guess the island got moved via donkey wheel once and wound up right under a ship.

― Hervé Grillechaise (WmC), Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:03 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is what i was thinking, too

also i only heard cheese curds

Recorded this on VHS, last night. Just checked. Closed captioning says it's "cheese curds." There you go.

THANK YOU

yeah like i'm going to listen to someone who has a VHS

you're all wrong

Clearly it's Chez Kurtz, his favorite Cambodian restaurant.

kurtz=locke, baout to take ppl up the river, buncha skulls on sticks

AFTER ALL THIS TIME ALL I KNOW IS THIS: in my ideal flash sideways world, Ana Lucia and Ilana become very VERY good friends.

lol...you are v right.

amazed at people thinking the sideways is actually like a great fucking life or some shit. didn't anyone else reckon locke in the sideways was v v similar to evil smokey locke in the normal timeline in tonight's ep? eg you should be principal, go for it dude, you can be the boss. was on the exact same satan tempting people tip as flocke....

i don't believe for a second jacob is going to be the bad guy either, smokey has just murdered a load of people ffs.

it's all set up now for jack as jacob....he believes.

no idea how widmore is going to fit in mind you.

Didn't anyone else reckon locke in the sideways was v v similar to evil smokey locke in the normal timeline in tonight's ep? eg you should be principal, go for it dude, you can be the boss. was on the exact same satan tempting people tip as flocke....

― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:32 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

Interesting to have Substitute teacher Locke acting like Smokey--tempting Ben into ambition.

― President Keyes, Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:36 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark

ahhh nice point - and that temptation's denied twice.

The idea isn't they all live these idyllic fantasy lives - the characters at their core are still essentially the same, Locke will still be the "Don't tell me what I can't do!" guy, just in the new timeline they're all seem at least a little more evolved or fortunate in their life choices. Didn't see that bit as out of character for him at all - seems clear without the influence of Helen he would be doing more stuff like that. He's been leading people by the nose since Season 1.

Great episode. I actually didn't know whether Dr Linus was going to sell out Alex again in the alt. Good to see Nikki & Paolo get a mention too.
My only complaint was that Ben is such a great liar - there's no way he would have fumbled that bit about "oh of course yes the Smoke monster killed Jacob, yes, just like i said". I guess it could indicate how screwed up he is by the whole thing.

How come Miles asked what the smoke monster was after the Smokey temple bust? Didn't he encounter it at the barracks when Ben summoned him to get Keamy et al? I honestly can't remember.

no idea. you figure everyone has encountered most of the island's quirks by now but then again it takes a temple full of people getting slaughtered for them to really care enough to ask any questions... and not that it's that important i guess but just how did miles know about the buried diamonds?

the bodies told him

thought so. did he do psych moves with all the bodies in the graveyard for some reason?

Good to see Nikki & Paolo get a mention too

lol not it's not. why is that good

Nikki and Paolo were paralyzed so their last thoughts were probably "WTF we are being buried alive and covered in diamonds" & Miles can read the last thoughts of the deceased..

Doh. Too slow. I figure if I were Miles I would read the dead minds of all available to me!

xp because I have to believe that the Nikki & Paolo "storyline" was FOR A REASON! And will be key to everything!

Sometime in season four the writers figured out how to end the show, but needed a way to get $8 million onto the island, so they wrote in Nikki & Paolo.
LOST

not sure where this is from but

Facts:

Ethan Goodspeed is an OBGYN in LA, having not grown up on the Island.
Ben Linus lives with his old, sick father, Roger. Roger mentions DHARMA and the fact that they went to the Island and subsequently left.
Alex and Danielle live in LA, not on the Island.
In 2004 the Island is underwater and has vestiges of DHARMA on it, indicating a DHARMA presence before the sinking.
Speculation:

I propose that the first five seasons of LOST are in fact the “Alt” as in an altered timeline. The Flashsideways that we have been seeing depict the original, unaltered timeline.

How would that work?

Ben didn’t grow up on the Island, he and Roger left for some reason. What if they were evacuated? But not due to Jack and company trying to blow up Jughead, but because of the drilling at the Orchid setting off the Swan. The difference is because Ben was evacuated, he doesn’t grow up to turn the donkey wheel. Without the donkey wheel turning there were no time travelers. No time travelers means no Jughead.

Ergo, the Flashsideways depict the original, unaltered timeline and what we have been watching for five years has been the result of the time traveling in Season 5.

Back to Ben being evacuated. If he was evacuated then it stands to reason that Chang and Co. figured out Radzinski’s drilling was mucking everything up on their own. Why not? It’s not as if they had Sayid the Hostile and LaFleur and Juliet the Traitors-in-Their-Midst to worry about. So if they figured it out on their own they probably ordered the evacuation, but couldn’t stop the Swan from exploding because they didn’t have Jughead.

Maybe that’s why the Island sunk, because of the chain reaction set off by drilling at the Orchid.

So since the Island sank in 1977, then it wasn’t there for Danielle and her crew to wash up on, thus they made it back to civilization and Alex lives a normal life.

Conclusion:

The Flashsideways are not depicting an alternate timeline where Jughead was detonated, it is in fact depicting the original timeline where none of the time traveling and Incident stuff in Season 5 took place and the Island sank as a result of the DHARMA Initiative drilling at the Orchid.

For some as-yet-unknown reason, Jacob and/or the Man in Black decide on a do over, (perhaps Jacob in his capacity as the Guardian of the Island) and cause the time traveling, which in a chicken-or-the-egg scenario cause the real Alternate time line, ours, to come about.

We’re the Alt.

alt bros

xp

interesting, but the leaky Jughead would have been on the island before 1977, with no Daniel to tell them how to make it safe.

AAAAAAALT!

that doesn't explain how they started the flight crash timeline from the sideways world.