Luck: HBO series: David Milch, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Mann

I bet on every race when I go to the track. That's kind of the point, innit?

Jockey underworld will be more interesting than stock degenerate gamblers. Dudes puking and popping laxatives to stay light.

yeah milch and mann are super-notorious control freaks.

watch the bonus features on the deadwood box set. the poor credited directors have to kind of sit back and smile warily at the camera while milch jumps in and gives the actors direction.

that said, i got the feeling that the deadwood features were all about elevating milch to some kind of television godhead, so it may be that they choose to include the footage that made it look as though he was the central or even sole creative force. which is belied by the fact that some episodes of that show were pallid, while others (notably the pilot directed by walter hill) were really great.

i should add: pallid and great in a way that suggested the hands of a director at work.

who's gonna win this rachel alexander v zenyatta race

― johnny crunch, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:02 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

Rachel has a license to improve from age 3 to 4 so if she is better than last year I don't see her losing

― dmr, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:37 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

haha well .... Rachel just lost to a horse not even as good as Zenyatta in what was supposed to be Rachel's easy comeback race so don't listen to me, obv.

Rachel vs. Zen probably won't happen now, at least not on April 9. (Zenyatta won again today and looked good)

sorry to hijack Milch thread with real life horse racing news, back to our regularly scheduled programming ...

David Milch reading with Q&A:

http://media.sas.upenn.edu/writershouse/10A/Milch-David_Fellows-Reading_KWH-UPenn_04-26-2010.mp3

full season done been ordered

watch the bonus features on the deadwood box set. the poor credited directors have to kind of sit back and smile warily at the camera while milch jumps in and gives the actors direction.

ehh tv directors know what the score is

like to see him give directions on michael mann's set

when does the pilot/full season air?

love the scenes of milch on pillows, dictating the script in front of an audience on those bonus features. all that's missing is a grape-feeder.

next year

like, the 'boardwalk empire' pilot was done about this time last year. kind of chill that hbo film a whole season before airing it -- i guess you can keep the whole thing more consistent than on deadline-chasing network tv?

wonder when the bigelow series is coming. hbo must have deep pockets.

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john from Cincinnati kinda soured me

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-1010-michael-mann-20101010,0,6409892,full.story

this gonna be as shitty as boardwalk empire or

hope not ;_;

me too, maybe this is the that'll stick

hbo needs it tbf

what was the last good hbo series? curb?

"The 'Miami Vice' director's return to the small screen is part of a migration of top talent."

You're going to go w/ "Miami Vice" out of Michael Mann's repertoire, LA Times?

well, miami vice was the last time he did tv so.......

what was the last good hbo series? curb?

― caek, Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:55 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

eastbound!

do people still watch treme? i liked it at first but had like a physical aversion to watching it. same with boardwalk empire. it just feels exhausting.

See is it bad that I thought of the move and not the TV show? xp

treme was dreadful. i'm going to give boardwalk maybe a couple more episodes. the most recent one was the least bad so far but still hard work.

when was the last good hbo drama? feel like the answer is oz tbh.

are you joking?

sopranos? wire? 6 ft under?

lol forgot the wire

in my defence, that was nearly 100 blog years ago

oz was before blogs even existed!

slock, check your gmail

treme is great, y'all are high

The 2006 film "Miami Vice," a remake of the television show with very little evidence of that heritage, was seen as a creative misstep, and it grossed a lukewarm $164 million worldwide (its production budget was $135 million).

guess the LA Times doesn't read the blogosphere.

Also ya'll are crazy. Treme was great, Deadwood is the best show ever made, Rome was solid fun, In Treatment has been very good, and Boardwalk Empire is just now finding it's legs.

rome was awesome

what was the last good hbo drama? feels like the answer is arli$$

BTW, in that UPenn link up above, Milch reads the pilot script for Luck (reads all the parts and the directions and everything) and it's good.

They just put up a Q&A with Milch at the LA Times:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/10/david-milch-hopes-for-visceral-experience-with-hbos-luck.html

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f71b5774-dd62-11df-beb7-00144feabdc0.html

next movie projects are battle of agincourt and 50s chicago gangsters

Another Michael Mann interview

Oops, same link as caek.

David Milch and Michael Mann are two of the most imposing intellects and autodidacts in the biz, so the notion of them collaborating is almost mind-boggling.

I would kill a man if it would ensure that Agincourt gets made.

this could be good.

btw walter hill directed by the pilot of deadwood, which had some extraordinary moments. where did that guy's career go, though?

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, March 3, 2010 5:32 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark

For some reason I thought Walter Hill was dead... guess I was thinking of George Roy Hill.

Can you really call Milch an autodidact when he graduated from Yale? Unless you're saying he's like... a student of life or something.

do people still watch treme? i liked it at first but had like a physical aversion to watching it. same with boardwalk empire. it just feels exhausting.

― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:00 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

I felt the exact same way about Treme... I think the scene where Bunk gets his teeth knocked out by a cop really made me realize how enormously unpleasant watching the show made me feel. Boardwalk's airier and more fun to me though, even if it's way more violent and gross.

the 67-year-old filmmaker has shown a profound gift for connecting human emotion, music, color and light on the big screen

lol trying to write abt wtf michael mann is up to

from the article:

Luck is the latest example of talent from the big screen crossing over to TV and boasts a cast that includes Dustin Hoffman, playing a seasoned gambler, Nick Nolte and Dennis Farina, a former cop Mann first worked with 22 years ago on his TV series Crime Story.

didn't they first work together on Thief?

i waited on treme until i could watch the whole season in one week and it felt like a massive perfect movie.

you mean massively boring imperfect boo-vie

sorry, yes, that's clearly what i mean.

np

man I thought this was supposed to start airing in January. now they're saying autumn of 2011.

got to side w/team slocki over team forks when it comes to tremé, sorry john

Sepinwall interviews Milch about the finale.

I didn't realise that Milch new the end of Deadwood was...the end. I thought that scene at the end was too perfect.

Thought Luck really found its way towards the end there. Also thought the last two eps got the Mann-style really well. I will miss it.

That episode was amazing.

Yeah. Bittersweet. I really liked this show a lot.

Up there I meant "knew" and not "new.

god that last episode was great-- so sad its over

"whats the story with us?"
"i suspect in the long run, we all go broke"

i want to see a "making of" that explains how the fuck they shot the racing scenes

HBO's cancellation of the beleagured horseracing drama "Luck" cost the network $35 million, according to an earnings report released by Time Warner Wednesday.

Time Warner, which owns the premium cable provider, said it suffered the "impairment" because of the series' cancellation in its first season following the death of three horses.

The show had already started production on its second season, and most of the costs were attached to shutting down production during that unaired season, resulting in the $35 million writedown, HBO said.

so that's how much a horse costs

they can make it back, go hard on the derby this wkend

Not sure if this is upthread, but a very sobering piece about the horse racing industry:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/30/us/breakdown-horses-series.html

http://www.followhorseracing.com/en/the-latest/blogs/2013/02/17/out-of-luck-episode-1-buy-low-sell-high/

holy cow that horse run very good.

― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, January 9, 2012 6:37 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/david-milch-made-100m-gambled-866184

Damn, he looks pretty good for 70.