Defend the Indefensible - Concrete Architecture

absolutely brilliant. the documentary on kahn was damn good too

1) There was a long stretch in the post-war era where everyone was building these horrible boxy concrete public buildings that look terrible. Just look at the South Bank in London. Yuck.

2) Concrete only looks good when dry. Notice how all these cool pictures are taken on nice days. As soon as concrete gets wet or dirty they look like hell. Very depressing - like they are leaking.

Scarborough Civic Centre (This is a very cool building)
Outside:
http://www.mtarch.com/scc.GIF
Inside:
http://www.mtarch.com/sccint.GIF

Bata Shoe Museum:
http://www.mtarch.com/bsmh.GIF

City Hall:
http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/ourcity/images/cityhall.jpg

http://www.univercity.ca/aboutus/side_about_05.jpg

http://rdanderson.com/stargate/location/tollan1.jpg

http://www.sfss.ca/aq.gif

personally, I love the buildings. It's Arthur Erickson, who also did the Law Courts and the Museum of Anthropology, which are both wonders of concrete and glass.

oh, and the current head of Bata is on the board of the Fraser Institute... oooweee.

classic or dud? anybody pick it up? i'm considering it, i grew up near salk institute and turns out the college library i spent most of my time studying at was designed by salk (posthumously realized).

Dry Falls State Park Visitor Center in Central Washington

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/563675_10151348728846596_304721891_n.jpg

1965

'Concrete architecture inhabits an interzone between the best kind of idealism and the worst kind of pragmatism'?

http://cdn0.lostateminor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/wotruba-church.jpg

i sometimes think that brutalist concrete architecture is my favorite kind. i'm not speaking primarily of knockout projects that bend concrete to someone's imaginative fancy. my favorites are hivelike, utilitarian buildings that exploit the material's industrial essence.

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/58/190916931_c0990f8806_z.jpg?zz=1

http://ronenews92fm.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/fbi_headquarters.jpeg?w=640&h=458

http://media.lunch.com/d/d7/168197.jpg?2

i like this style, i suppose, because it recalls a particular sort of nerdy, rationalist 70s sci-fi idealism. in the here and now, these building seem seem like remnants of a charmingly crude technological utopia that never happened, antlike worker-citizens ruled over by benevolent univacs the size of city blocks. i find that comforting somehow (no banaka).

contenderizer, I recognize FBI and Boston City Hall, but what's the first of those three images?

I am a huuuuuge fan of everything in this thread that's not a broken link. Holding back the urge to just spam the thread with favorite shots and buildings, there are millions. The recent Brutalism issue of CLOG (http://www.clog-online.com/issues/clog-brutalism/) has a nice smattering of thinkpieces and check-out-this-project essays. Disclosure, I have 500 words in there about Charles Correa and the capacity of Brutalism to, contrary to its reputation, operate linguistically in a sophisticated and complex way. See also fuckyeahbrutalism.tumblr.com (run by an old school friend and doing gangbusters it seems).

Agreed re: the clumsy retro-utopianness, though it always struggles against the just-as-present dystopian qualities of the command-control society, armories and defense posts against insurrection, all of that stuff. But from the perspectives of the architects, they really were following through on the Modernist dream of a saner, rational world ruled by science. It's just that "ruled by science," if it ever sounded good, was certainly starting to sound bad right around the same time.

it's the sheffield town hall extension

In 1977, a new council building in a modern style was added to the east of the Peace Gardens, and was connected to the old Town Hall by way of a glazed flyover. The building was immediately unpopular and was nicknamed The Egg-Box after its appearance. The new building, complete with roof-garden, cost in the region of £9 million and was built with a life-span of about 500 years following concerns about the tenacity of the concrete structures built in the previous decade. It was demolished in 2002 after just 25 years to make way for the Sheffield Winter Gardens, St Paul's Hotel and an office block...

The extension is the setting for much of the 1984 BBC docufiction Threads.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/SheffieldTownHallExt.jpg

Uch! Thanks. Sad but not surprised to learn of its fate.

west coast is especially nice for this. concrete harmonizes surprisingly well w/ wild greenery (actual and simulated):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Seattle_Freeway_Park_24.jpg

http://www.greatbuildings.com/gbc/images/cid_1112082104_DSCN1047.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3623/3638416379_6fe00af1a8.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3570/3639225984_b14fcf0050.jpg

http://media.thenewstribune.com/smedia/2013/06/17/14/11/1gQ9qo.St.5.JPG

Brutalist fountain! Incredible.

Saw a good talk on Denys Lasdun and the National Theatre last year, and how he turned one of the cheapest forms of construction (using wooden forms for pouring the concrete) into one of the most expensive by only using each plank twice (once for each side, after they'd been cut using a special roughened saw blade to emphasise the grain).

national theatre near and far:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01428/national-theatre_1428543c.jpg

http://blog.lisacoxdesigns.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/National-Theatre-concrete-Lisa-Cox-Garden-Designs.jpg

The Phaidon book on concrete is gorgeous. It's kind of amazing that the Pantheon is a concrete building but people pretty much stopped using it for over a thousand years.

there's a great Facebook group on this that keeps yielding brutalist porn:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2256189436/?hc_location=stream

More great pics, contenderizer! I have long dreamed of frolicking in those Lawrence Halprin landscapes. What are those last three from? Looks like a campus... Vancouver?

penultimate 2 are from the evergreen state college's campus in olympia, wa. i went to school there, probably where my love of this stuff really crystallized (concretized, w/e). last building is the weyerhaeuser headquarters in federal way, wa. looks like some ancient site and houses a nice free bonsai garden. getting all nostalgic for seattle...

http://ryanjhollander.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/terraces-and-pond2.jpg?w=785

http://james.architectureburger.com/roadtrip/roadtrip33.jpg

bonsai garden such a blithely ominous metaphor...

Totally great, thanks for sharing.

np, i love this stuff! it's like architectural meditation. also, this is otm:

...the clumsy retro-utopianness...always struggles against the just-as-present dystopian qualities of the command-control society, armories and defense posts against insurrection, all of that stuff. But from the perspectives of the architects, they really were following through on the Modernist dream of a saner, rational world ruled by science. It's just that "ruled by science," if it ever sounded good, was certainly starting to sound bad right around the same time.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:38 PM (Yesterday)

Downtown Cleveland has a few great Brutalist concrete buildings.

Ameritrust Tower:

http://s3.hubimg.com/u/2476670_f520.jpg

Rhodes Tower (which houses the Cleveland State University library):

http://library.csuohio.edu/graphics/libguides/rhodes-tower.jpg

The student center that used to sit next to that is now gone:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2205/2349942885_4e57b6b69c.jpg?v=0

MetroHealth Medical Center:

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/08/large_MetroHealth-Medical-Center.jpg

Same here. In the UK most new housing developments attempt to look homely and cottagey and fail at this - due to not having the same disciplines and materials that were used in the early 1900s-thru-1930s housing they're trying to emulate. It all looks ersatz. Whereas concrete brutalism is just clear about what it is.

Somewhat relevant Tumblr: http://activator-inhibitor.tumblr.com

Park Hill is up for the RIBA Stirling Prize this year, although possibly becaause they've made it less brutalist

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2013/jul/18/stirling-prize-2013-shortlist

I remain so totally disappointed in the happiness panels applied to the building, although the other changes do sound reasonable. My pick from that list would probably be the Giant's Causeway center, that looks great.

i like the park hill building. the neighborhood of copenhagen i lived in had a bunch of apartment complexes that looked like that and i thought they were magnificent.

boston city hall is also awesome.

idk, i saw the le corbusier exhibit at MOMA recently and since then view concrete architecture as being very optimistic, and unabashed, about modernity, which i like.

i can't stand boston city hall. it screams inaccessible government bureaucracy to me, like it's on stilts that you can't climb up. like it's not meant for the public. all those offices look unreachable, the way it's narrower on the ground floors and gets wider towards the top, it just tells me that i shouldn't waste me time trying to approach it because i can't. i tried to register my car there once and it took like 15 minutes trying to find the appropriate entrance.

*my time

here's another view

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Boston_City_Hall.JPG

it seems so weird and ugly and unsure of itself, though, especially compared to the more conservative-looking architecture that surrounds it. it's almost the opposite of intimidating to me.

7/8 of the problem with Boston City Hall is the brick hellscape around it, IMO.

Lawrence Halprin - that is how Brutalist landscape is done. Such a fascinating figure, total ILM-bait - him and his wife Ann were tight with Berio, Terry Riley, LaMonte Young, the Fluxus types (and their daughter starred in Zabriskie Point!). But he's somehow also a bridge to Project for Public Spaces colored-pencil-rendering banalitude - one of a few translating Happenings into team-building wilderness exercises.

If his "concrete harmonizes surprisingly well w/ wild greenery" to Contendo, it's not from happy juxtaposition - it's that he was that he figured out how to make those forms (horrors!) mimetic, credibly transporting swimming holes into the urban public realm. Very kitschy guy but somehow a total hero.

http://www.altaplana.be/_media/dossiers/darius/pyramiddatepalms.jpg

If his "concrete harmonizes surprisingly well w/ wild greenery" to Contendo, it's not from happy juxtaposition - it's that he was that he figured out how to make those forms (horrors!) mimetic, credibly transporting swimming holes into the urban public realm.

that's true in the case of halprin, but i was talking about this sort of concrete architecture in general. tbh, i frequently dislike it in an urban environment devoid of greenspace. in that context, as its critics say, it often does seem oppressive, inhumane, and just plain ugly. a green & growing environment gives the forms & material chance to exert contrast and texture, enhancing the style's most idealistic qualities. imo.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7094/7165659014_9bfd890950.jpg

The Clancy Real Estate Group office in Phoenix.

http://joeorman.shutterace.com/Bizarre/bizarre_pyramidoncentral1.jpg

Awesome.