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what the fuck am i trying to do there? yeesh

― latebloomer, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I watched Raiders endlessly in 1985; it was the first videotape my parents owned, bought at the ridiculously low price of $49.95 at the local Specs Records & Tapes.

Funny -- Temple of Doom is way more thrills-a-second than Raiders, but these days I think it's the better film. The intimations of sexuality in the early film (Karen Allen's girlhood affair with Indie) are gone, and it's an improvement: unprepared to deal with Allen's brains and physicality, Raiders relegated her to a helpless yeller in the last two-thirds. At least Kate Capshaw never transcends cartoon status, and -- unlike a lot of people here -- I grew to like her.

Essentially, despite lacking a set piece as spectacular as the Ark blasting Sith lightning at Nazi forces, Temple of Doom honors its Saturday-afternoon-matinee source material to greater effect and more lasting enjoyment.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

At least Kate Capshaw never transcends cartoon status, and -- unlike a lot of people here -- I grew to like her.

Yeesh. You stand alone indeed!

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Mola Ram's a great villain who isn't on the screen often enough, in fact I think he's almost too good for the famous heart-removing scene -- that famous pose of him holding the flaming heart which was in the movie poster is iconography let down by the surrounding scene.

A legitimate criticism, yeah. He disappears for like 40 minutes! Once again, his character has shadings -- is he a "true believer" in Kali or a con man? -- that Spielberg has no time to explore.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

jesus christ alfred

― s1ocki, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

As for Short Round...well, couldn't Spielberg have used the monkey from Raiders instead?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

unprepared to deal with Allen's brains and physicality, Raiders relegated her to a helpless yeller in the last two-thirds

Raiders scene that completely undercuts this argument: the sequence on the boat in the bedroom. "Where *doesn't* it hurt?" "HERE!" Etc.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

karen allen is a total badass in raiders

― s1ocki, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Raiders scene that completely undercuts this argument: the sequence on the boat in the bedroom. "Where *doesn't* it hurt?" "HERE!" Etc

Not completely; it's a valedictory (although I like her "well, GODDAMN IT, Indy, where DOESN'T it hurt?")

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 15 April 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

jesus christ alfred

-- s1ocki, Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:47 PM (45 minutes ago)

― ghost rider, Sunday, 15 April 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

I will always have massive love for Temple of Doom - first film I can remember seeing in the cinema (I would have been six), and as an immaculately crafted, unusually atmospheric live action cartoon it's just about perfect.

― chap, Sunday, 15 April 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Temple of Doom is one of the few films in which the hoary conviction of bargaining with the villain utterly fails.

JONES: You want the stones? Let her go!

MOLO RAM: Drop them, Dr. Jones. They will be found. YOU won't! (evil cackle)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 15 April 2007 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

mmm chilled monkey branez

― latebloomer, Monday, 16 April 2007 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

Mola Ram... Prepare to meet Kali... IN HELL!

― chap, Monday, 16 April 2007 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

I also like Kate Capshaw, as Ned well knows. Karen Allen didn't sing no fuckin Cole Porter tune in Mandarin.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

opening credit sequence does not a film make.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 16 April 2007 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

ugh once the opening sequence ends Capshaw becomes totally unbearable

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

jesus christ alfred

-- s1ocki

-- ghost rider

― rps, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Her screams are nuanced.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

The female characters in Spielberg's films are often emotionally retarded imbeciles - see Catch Me If You Can for a film which has a very low opinion of women indeed.

― chap, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

The ~~female~~ characters in Spielberg's films are often emotionally retarded imbeciles

fixed

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

someday he will be as deep and loving a portrayer of da gals as Grindhouse Spazzantino

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Uma Thurman vs. Kate Capshaw

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Lucas, who also is in pre-production on a "bare-bones, action-heavy" Star Wars live-action TV series

NO

― nickalicious, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

He's just jealous he didn't think of Firefly first.

― nickalicious, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I also like Kate Capshaw, as Ned well knows. Karen Allen didn't sing no fuckin Cole Porter tune in Mandarin.

to her enormous credit

― gabbneb, Monday, 16 April 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

jesus, morbius, you really gotta drop the tarantino bugaboo, i mean seriously do you honestly think there are that many enamored quentin fans out there or something??

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 16 April 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

no, they are just overrepresented here, along with S_____n S______g loathers.

Anyway, how do they make a '30s serial parody set in the postwar era? Oh riiiight, Rear Window for Teens was just #1 at the box office, so it don't matter.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 April 2007 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't care what you say, Steven Soderberg sucks.

― The Yellow Kid, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

jesus christ alfred

-- s1ocki

-- ghost rider

-- rps, Monday, April 16, 2007 2:16 PM (1 hour ago)

― deeznuts, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Consensus is a marvelous thing.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

morbius, the point that i'm making is that i don't think one of those groups is overrepresented here so it just gets to be more and more comedy the more you bring that dude up out of the blue in unrelated arguments. you're right, spielberg dissidents are more prevalent here than in general society, though.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 16 April 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

I loooooooooooooooooove the White Sox.

-- David R

more than you loooooooooove Grindhouse? (prepare for 9 innings of grief)

-- Dr Morbius,

― rps, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

People who hate The Shawshank Redemption are more prevalent here than in general society, too. How's Morbs feel about that?

― milo z, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

apparently people who rate the blob above all over steve mcqueen movies are more prevalent here! it's a mysterious world.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 16 April 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Alfred, do you intend to sound like a parody of Jonathan Rosenbaum writing a Leonard Maltin-esque 'guide to film'?

― milo z, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

well, i do comedy! just not ZINGS.

who's this rps TROLL?

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

apparently someone who doesn't enjoy your posts about the white sox.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 16 April 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

rps = Ozzie Guillen

― milo z, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

I wish my mom hated The Shawshank Redemption!

Alfred, do you intend to sound like a parody of Jonathan Rosenbaum writing a Leonard Maltin-esque 'guide to film'?

Intention has nothing to do with it. I kinda wish my remarks were more like "a parody of Pauline Kael writing a Merv Griffin-esque `guide to film' though.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Pauline Kael otm re Indy

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

i kind of wish your remarks were more like that too!

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 16 April 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

i am dusty baker

― rps, Monday, 16 April 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

hell, i wish MY remarks were more like that!

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 16 April 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Connery's out, of his own volition. Ray Winstone and John Hurt are in.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2007 07:57 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Indiana Jones & The Nice Sit Down

― blueski, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

Odds on Indiana Jones searching for something in Argentina and running into Nazi escapees?

― milo z, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

this one allegedly has an aliens/ancient astronauts angle. up my alley!

― latebloomer, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

Pred ship.

― Oilyrags, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

apparently they're filming in new haven

http://www.indianajones.com/community/news/news20070621.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367882/locations
http://www.infonewhaven.com/72848

― gabbneb, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

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