― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
What do people think? Am I being callous and cold-hearted?
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
Meanwhile, the people who are the victims of such choices (and who, particularly in NO, had little role in putting BushCo in office) could certainly use your help. It seems to me pointless to punish THEM for the crimes of those in power.
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)
But there's a huge lack of tin-rattling here compared to any other recent disaster I can remember (& compared to 9/11 too) so I guess that on some level a lot of non-US people have the same view as Lovelace.
― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 4 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
your reasoning is something you have to work out for yourself. you either give or you don't give. your reasoning is your business. it's true that the united states is rich and powerful.
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)
― aimurchie (aimurchie), Sunday, 4 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Sunday, 4 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Sunday, 4 September 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Sunday, 4 September 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)
He said he had no other details.
― gear (gear), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
BREAKING NEWS AP: Army Corps of Engineers says police killed some of its workers as they crossed a bridge on the way to repair a canal. More soon
― gear (gear), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)
Larry Johnson: "I believe there are grounds charges of criminal negligence being brought against US Government officials. This is not partisan bashing. There are people who are dead who could have and should have been saved. The responsibility for not responding quick enough clearly lies with the Feds. Those ain't my words, it is their own damn plan..."
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)
― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
BREAKING NEWS AP: Army Corps of Engineers says its contractors were not killed by police, but gunmen who fired at them were killed. More soon.
― gear (gear), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)
"This is the largest disaster in Red Cross history. We already have more than 300 shelters set up, in six states already," she said.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 September 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 4 September 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 4 September 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)
oh jesus christ:
Programming note: Dr. Phil McGraw and Deepak Chopra discuss healing after Katrina, "Larry King Live," 9 p.m. ET.
still, if it helps anybody...
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 4 September 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)
CNN appears to say that the crew is OK:
Underscoring the dangerous nature of the operation, a rescue helicopter crashed northwest of downtown New Orleans Sunday evening. The pilot and crew were rescued, said those aboard another helicopter hovering above just after the crash.
The mangled Eurocopter AS 332 Super Puma was lying on its side about four miles from downtown. The Coast Guard carried the crew from the scene on another helicopter.http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/04/katrina.impact/index.html
Who flies Eurocopters? It's hard to tell from the photo on the front of cnn.com if that's a USCG helicopter-- it's pretty bright colored, like some of theirs are.
― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 4 September 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)
― badgerminor (badgerminor), Monday, 5 September 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)
My boyfriend and I were traveling from Memphis, TN to St. Louis, MO on I-55 this afternoon (5:00p to 9:00p). As we drove north between 5 and 7 p.m., we saw at least 200 vehicles of various types moving south including tankers with fuel and water, medical, humvees, personnel transports, trucks with building supplies, generators, construction equipment, and tow trucks. There were also two trucks with wedge shaped cabs that looked familiar, but I'm not sure what they were exactly. They made me think of bridge builder type vehicles. We also saw a group of Arkansas State Patrol vehicles caravaning south with boats in tow, several groups of ambulances, a caravan of buses and a group from Ameren UE the electric company in St. Louis.I can't be sure, but I think some of the military vehicles were Army Corp of Engineers from Fort Leonard Wood, MO. They were traveling at a good clip, and hopefully have already arrived in the area. Several of the military vehicles had slogans like "New Orleans or Bust" and "New Orleans We're Coming".I hope this news helps.
I can't be sure, but I think some of the military vehicles were Army Corp of Engineers from Fort Leonard Wood, MO. They were traveling at a good clip, and hopefully have already arrived in the area. Several of the military vehicles had slogans like "New Orleans or Bust" and "New Orleans We're Coming".
I hope this news helps.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 September 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 September 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 September 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)
THIS STUFF FRIGGING WELL SHOULD HAVE BEEN BARRELING INTO NEW ORLEANS AS OR JUST AFTER THE DAMN STORM HIT.
OK, the flooding. But come on. Portaloos finally arriving AFTER they move everyone out of the superdome? If I was in NO I'd probably be shooting people out of insane wild anger mself.
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 5 September 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 5 September 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)
This is how i feel about it, I mean Bush was quoted saying “we can afford both the events in Iraq and this”.
― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 5 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 5 September 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_090105/content/truth_detector.guest.html
― Rush, Monday, 5 September 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)
― Ned elsewhere (rogermexico), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
Yeh, so I start setting it up even before the hurricane hits, you know, when the state of emergency is declared, not when the inner-beltway starts grumbling.
― stet (stet), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 5 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)
If Entergy could foresee the damage, why not FEMA?
― badgerminor (badgerminor), Monday, 5 September 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
"Before joining the Bush administration in 2001, Brown spent 11 years as the commissioner of judges and stewards for the International Arabian Horse Association..."This was his full-time job...for 11 years," [a spokeswoman] added.
Brown was forced out of the position after a spate of lawsuits over alleged supervision failures. "He was asked to resign," Bill Pennington, president of the IAHA at the time, confirmed last night.
Soon after, Brown was invited to join the administration by his old Oklahoma college roommate Joseph Allbaugh, the previous head of FEMA until he quit in 2003 to work for the president's re-election campaign."
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 September 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
It's okay. Pointing out that the head of FEMA is an Arabian Horse specialist who obviously doesn't know how to keep an entire city from drowing does bear repeating.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 5 September 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)