― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:05 (nineteen years ago) link
(Goodfellas, come on, it doesn't say "fuck you" to the old guard, it is itself the last of the truly clichéd self-satirizing stupid old mob movies unless you count Casino except Casino is great. Fuck it, I just hate most trad-mob movies I guess).
on review: Nick OTM esp. re: Pesci.
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:14 (nineteen years ago) link
(I love heat too)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:20 (nineteen years ago) link
I would really like someone to point me towards any of these films where that ISN'T the case. I mean any story about mobsters spanning multiple decades is going to be shit at the end, there is nothing climactic about watching some wiseguy get old, lose his edge and get thrown in the clink / murdered by his own stooges / enter the witness protection program. This is why Scarface is the best one, it goes out on a high note, you don't have to sit through a bunch of Tony and Manolo's midlife anecdotes or a succession of pointless relationships with mousy gold-digging bitches.
I think I see what Nick is saying about Goodfellas, and that goes for a lot of other similar movies with me as well. At the end of the day it's still a story about an asshole and his asshole friends, I mean Ray Liotta as Henry Hill has to be one of the least compelling characters I've ever seen, the fucking rat should get beaten to death.
DeNiro and Pacino are great because they can play these asshole characters and make them incredibly compelling, Pesci less so but still about a thousand times better than Ray fucking Liotta. I guess since Henry Hill is himself a pathetic excuse for a human being it's appropriate to cast the most uncharismatic man this side of the Baldwin brothers to play him but that does not make it any more enjoyable. Then again if you are watching Goodfellas for Ray Liotta you need your head examined.
What I've learned from this thread: Gangster movies need more 80s music. Did you know Brian DePalma directed the video for "Dancing In The Dark?"
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link
That's all you took from the film? You're a bozo.
"Goodfellas" is a great film, as I've said, but it's just yet another mob movie. Do we really need more of those?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Also Heat is a Michael Mann film, why are we talking about Heat at all, briefly?
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost or lots of blood and drugs, see also Scarface!
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
uh goodfellas?
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link
goodfellas was made 15 years ago!
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Really though what does everybody think of The Untouchables?
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Untouchables, like Scarface, is good when I'm getting DePalma-ized rather than Mamet-ized or Stone-ized. There's a LOT more Stone in Scarface than there is Mamet in Untouchables, so I prefer Untouchables.
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link