Ha, really? I grew up in another community on FI but have been to The Grove/Pines many times. I guess it is a little full on esp mid-season. Overall I got the feeling that P-town is quieter but like I said it was def a slow weekend.
― ENBB, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link
his dad passed away
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/obituaries/bal-md.ob.waters12jun12,0,1592699.story
― am0n, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Very sad but a long and successful life. The bits with him in Divine Trash are great -- you can tell he's bemused by it all but also proud; I think it's telling that he remembers both John's persistence and the fact that he paid back the loan used to make Pink Flamingos within about a year.
And this does say it all:
"He made us always feel safe," said another son, filmmaker John S. Waters Jr. "Is that not the most important thing a parent could do for their children?"
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
He's actually in the Baltimore Sun again today!
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bal-te.to.hon13jun13,0,3043558.story
Honfest, this weekend's kitschy celebration of beehive hairdos, cat's-eye glasses and pearls, may be the city's biggest neighborhood festival.But as Honfest grows, so does the backlash against it. Some Hampden dwellers, local fashionistas and even John Waters - who helped perpetuate the image of the Hon as a Baltimore icon - are fed up with the 50,000-strong festival that began as a simple beauty pageant.Waters frowns on all the Hon hype. He said he won't use the word or the image in any of his scripts these days, and he doesn't think the city should get behind it either."To me, it's used up," Waters said of the Hon. "It's condescending now. The people that celebrate it are not from it. I feel that in some weird way they're looking slightly down on it. I only celebrate something I can look up to."
But as Honfest grows, so does the backlash against it. Some Hampden dwellers, local fashionistas and even John Waters - who helped perpetuate the image of the Hon as a Baltimore icon - are fed up with the 50,000-strong festival that began as a simple beauty pageant.
Waters frowns on all the Hon hype. He said he won't use the word or the image in any of his scripts these days, and he doesn't think the city should get behind it either.
"To me, it's used up," Waters said of the Hon. "It's condescending now. The people that celebrate it are not from it. I feel that in some weird way they're looking slightly down on it. I only celebrate something I can look up to."
Apparently this ruffled some feathers because there's a bit in the comments:
I just heard John Waters called the owner of Cafe Hon/HonFest creater to apologize for the quote. He was interviewed 5 weeks ago and not about HonFest. He has proven himself to be a truly nice gentleman.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm watching pecker right now and everytime that old lady says "full of grace!" i laughed out loud! it's so hilaaarious, kinda reminds me of david lynch brand of humor.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 07:15 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_KyuUtbKQQ
John Water's Curated Collection at the Strand
He picked a book by my grandma's friend/former neighbor!
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 29 April 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd6EO6SGGU8
― PTSD clarinet kid (am0n), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://dcist.com/2012/05/hitchhiking_director_john_waters_pi.php
Earlier this afternoon, somewhere "in the middle of Ohio," groundbreaking indie director John Waters was found hitchhiking on the side of a road. We're trying to find out just what the Baltimore-based director of Pink Flamingos was doing begging for a lift in the middle of the Buckeye State—indie rock band Here We Go Magic says they picked him up! And he's currently riding around in their van.
http://dcist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/051612waters.jpg
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://distilleryimage5.instagram.com/bb4547969f9411e1abb01231382049c1_7.jpg
http://instagr.am/p/Ks2P0mHCIh/
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
dcist commenter beat me to NOTHING BUT THESE FUCKING JERKOFF HIPPIES ON THE ROAD
― yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
Hahah
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
is the band any good? nothing on ilm that i can see!
― goole, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
Well, uh...
http://www.allmusic.com/album/a-different-ship-r2433665/review
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
They're a motorik version of Tom Petty. I like them fine
― poxen, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
I have never been to P'town either, but as I've read that he's a(n) habitue that would be a primary reason for ever going.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, June 2, 2008 2:42 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm reading his book Role Models, in which he writes: "Since I love minorities and Provincetown is a gay fishing village, I hang out in the two straight bars."
― cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
Aw man. Jean E. Hill -- aka Grizelda from Desperate Living -- RIP
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/john_waters_star_and_plus-size_greeting_card_model_jean_e._hill_rip
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 August 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfqFdE-bXMg
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 August 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
Honestly amazed that she made it that long after seeing how she looked in A Dirty Shame.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 23 August 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
so he's written this book after hitchhiking across America.
“There is no such thing as a $5 million independent movie. They want me to go make it like I used to, but I have no desire to do that. I did that. I have 17 movies, they’re all playing everywhere in the world, more than ever. I’ve spoken.”
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-05-30/entertainment/bs-sc-john-waters-carsick-20140531_1_john-waters-carsick-east-baltimore
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link
"The main thing is, when DVDs overnight died, that ended the safety net. That was profit. All foreign deals fell through. Nobody wants any movie that can't play in China. Nobody wants any movie that has to have any subtitles. They just want explosions. They want $100 million movies that are tentpole movies.
The worst thing they want … is a comedy based on wit. And if I was doing something, that's what I'd try to do.
Thank God I have five other careers."
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link
Complete NYC retro in Sept, featuring several Waters intros/Q&As, plus 8 films programmed by JW (four of which I haven't seen):
The MotherRoger Michell, USA, 2003, 35mm, 112mA recently widowed grandmother turns horny and has a secret affair with her daughter’s much younger, loutish boyfriend (played by pre-Bond Daniel Craig). Gerontophilia never seemed so exciting.
Of Unknown OriginGeorge P. Cosmatos, Canada/USA, 1983, 35mm, 88mThe best rat movie ever. Period. End of discussion.
There's also a Mondo Trasho/Multiple Maniacs/The Diane Linkletter Story on 9/11 for holiday fun.
http://www.filmlinc.com/daily/entry/john-waters-retrospective-film-society-of-lincoln-center-2014
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
Did we ever have a thread on the I Am Divine documentary? It's on Netflix, enjoyed it very much.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 July 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
S&M is dying too. There are very few leather bars left in the country. Gay bars are disappearing. It's getting uncomfortable. It's like having "black bars." They just hang out with everybody. Which I'm for. My message is that I've always been very against separatism. To me, I still like the biker culture, but all bikers are old now. And many of them are fat....
And if they are young, and dressing in leather, you'd think they're gay. They look sort of like the Eagles. But I guess that people tell me that the new, young S&M boys dress like fake skinheads. Non-racist skin heads. That's the look. I guess, I don't see it that much. But I don't go to the bars that much. I live at the beach, and S&M really looks stupid at the beach.
http://gothamist.com/2014/09/02/john_waters_justin_bieber.php
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 September 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
Great new interview:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/aug/03/john-waters-multiple-maniacs-baltimore-criterion
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
Even with A Dirty Shame my father said after, “It was funny but I hope as hell I never see it again!” That’s a pretty good quote!
watched this at bma, didn't disappointhttp://www.nytimes.com/video/t-magazine/100000003435098/teaser-john-waters-kiddie-flamingos.html
― am0n, Monday, 31 October 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
Found a complete version of Desperate Living on YouTube last night and it fucking killed me again. So many totally insane characters and scenes. I never really noticed it b4 but its definitely his lesbian/dyke film. Of course, there are other um "avenues" explored but that one is most prominent. The low budget sets are fantastic! The buildings in Mortville are near psychedelic in their coloring. Just beautiful. And also of note, was the absence of Divine, fortunately the other Dreamlanders rise to the occasion. Definitely his darkest film by a considerable margin. I fucking love it!
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Saturday, 29 July 2017 05:14 (six years ago) link
"SEIZE her and FUCK her!"
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 July 2017 06:40 (six years ago) link
LOL! Yeah, there are so many great lines in DL."look at that pelt", "every word I utter is to be taken as a direct, royal proclamation", the aforementioned white man/tampax line. It just goes on and on. The scene wherein Mo emasculates herself, tosses it and some random dog grabs it up. It's truly remarkable how successful it is even without The Divine Miss Divine. And its definitely a film whose appeal to me would never be explainable to my parents ala Warhols Trash and many other favorites.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
For some reason, I can't get my library to stock the Criterion of Multiple Maniacs.
― the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link
TELL HER this isn't some communist daycare center!!!
can't tell you how many times i've thought about the title of this thread re: current administration and basically every single news day about it
― comey did deflategate (daria-g), Sunday, 30 July 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9P_sxaaMJE
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 27 November 2017 05:50 (six years ago) link
this is pretty priceless btw; the two tone collar is dope and waters is sharp as a tack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEzk1DqTaaQ
amazed no one goes to waters these days with an open checkbook, seems like it would be printing money... has he said he's just not making anything anymore?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 27 November 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link
I remembered a funny John Waters anecdote yesterday that I told to friends
I saw him speak on my college campus, probably fifteen years ago, and he was joking about how after he'd mentioned poppers a number of times, one of the manufacturers had gifted him a "lifetime supply"
I saw him again a couple years ago, and the topic came up. He said he'd nearly run out! Either they underestimated him or he's lived longer than expected
― mh, Monday, 27 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
It’s a good thing I’m not relying on making movies. That’s the only one of the careers I have today that isn’t going so great. In the independent film world now, they want you to make it for $2 million and I don’t want to go backwards. I don’t want to be a faux anarchist underground filmmaker at 71 years old. People say, ‘Well, why don’t you raise money on Kickstarter?’ I own three homes. I’m not panhandling. So that’s fine because I have different ways to tell stories.
Do you miss filmmaking?
No. I mean, I do. I miss it, but not completely. I would make another movie in a minute, but I don’t know when I would make it. I am scheduled for the next year already! I made a lot of movies. It’s not like they’re hard to see. I know I would miss it if I didn’t write. I would miss it if I didn’t do spoken word. I would miss it if I didn’t have a photography career. I’d be happy to make one, but if I don’t make another one, I’m fine with that too.
https://www.fastcompany.com/40480667/john-waters-is-done-being-a-faux-anarchist-underground-filmmaker
― curmudgeon, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
I own three homes. I’m not panhandling.
God bless him.
― piscesx, Monday, 27 November 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
Odorama cards this Fri night in NYC
https://www.moma.org/calendar/events/6341
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link
I still have my card from when I saw it in the 80s. Haven't sniffed it recently, wonder if it's still got the aromas.
― nickn, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link
A hero has passed.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/obituaries/bs-md-ob-david-gluck-20200619-tgunh2dcazbl5pvymnvho2ecvy-story.html
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 June 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link
Also rewatched Female Trouble the other day having finally gotten the Criterion Blu-ray and man, that thing's more crazily prescient than ever.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 June 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link
But of course
John Waters bequeaths his art collection to Baltimore Museum of Art, whose bathrooms will be named in his honor https://t.co/BqVZPKx74z— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) November 12, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link
perfect
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link
my house appeared in pecker for two seconds and i am trying to remember if the house at the end of my street was pecker's house or if i made that up, either way i feel part of this
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
Lovely new featurehttps://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a37460247/john-waters-cover-story-interview-2021/
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 September 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link
Just saw the first date of this year’s Christmas tour here in SF, great as ever. Some news:*4K of Cry-baby on Kino Lorber next year* Possible Criterion of Pink Flamingos in the works.* First novel next year! Liarmouth — about a woman who steals luggage from airports.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 05:51 (two years ago) link
Seeing the Xmas show tonight
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
And it's happening
https://www.criterion.com/films/31320-pink-flamingos
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 March 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link
Pink Flamingos is one of the films, like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, that I saw numerous times when I was younger, and agree is culturally or historically significant (!) yet have no desire to watch again.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link
I have Pink Flamingos on a VHS videotape somewhere and honestly watching it on a 4K Blu-Ray seems like an example of comically missing the point.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link