Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

i'm almost certain they had no idea where they were going with smokey at the time of eko's death. it was a serious low point for the show and if i remember correctly that episode was ropey as s**t i think it was new writers.

i think the fence wasn't operable when ben summoned him. how he summoned him though, i don't know

how did ben summon smokey from within the dharma camp again?

ben goes into a secret hole in the wall in one of the dharma buildings and flushes the smoketoilet

rewatching S2 its a real shame they killed off eko character given the direction they're taking the show

The insinuation was that somehow the water was keeping the smoke at bay, and that little smoketoilet alcove looked a lot like the underground area where Ben confronted the ghost version of Alex to be "judged." I kind of assumed they were somehow connected (physically) and smokey literally can't pass through water.

Maybe there's something to that? It can't go through water, or across ash.

ben summoning the smokemonster is definitely one of the things they need to resolve sooner rather than later

Yeah, they had to swim underwater to get to the bomb area too, which looked like smokeytunnels to me

well considering what was said in the preview...

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the whole island is SURROUNDED by water to keep smokey on the ISLAND OMG

Not being able to go across water
would also explain smokeylocke being trapped on the island

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so if jughead sunk the island, what would happen to smokey?

MAKES U THINK

Maybe each of the Others' leaders represents an element that they can block smokey from accessing. Dogen is earth, Ben is water, Locke was air, and...

Oh wait, I'm confusing this with Captain Planet.

loved this episode! mainly because of the last 20 mins (and the fight at the start). huge lol at Ben backing away slowly from Sayid. and woah they've really upped the smokemonster budget this season huh?

killing dogan was for the best - constantly being undermined by noobs. when even claire is retorting "speak english!" at you you know you might as well give up. thought he was cool and yet so useless. gonna watch it again now.

I would love to see Hurley leading the 815 kids in an epic water balloon fight against Locke.

How come Christian was able to appear to Jack off-island?

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uh-huhuhuhuh he said "jack off"

haha yeah, i have to agree about when Claire stared Dogen down, he really had just lost all his juice by then

I heard someone say that there are 108 stitches on a baseball yesterday and I was like ugh come on man.

well i mean

i looked that up

then i looked up the significance of the number 108 in 'lost' because tbh by this point old history mayne's memory is pretty facacta.

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re jack's vision of christian being just a hallucination - i've always believed that scene to be of a piece with hurley's visitations from the dead during his stay at the asylum. and as hurley will passionately attest to, he *isn't* crazy and those really *were* dead people coming to see him.

tbh i think we're inventing these "rules" of the dead more than the writers are

yeah i think ultimately they're going to prove much simpler than people have made them out to be.

Dogen is earth, Ben is water, Locke was air, and...

Hurley is Heart.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/01/AR2010030103497.html?hpid=news-col-blog

i guess you'll never find out why that bird said hurley

"Ultimately, the way we look at it is that if the characters don't care about that question, then we as storytellers don't care about that question."

Well, it's a good thing no-one can accuse the characters of not questioning or caring about major plotpoints OH WAIT

If they stick to that then all we are going to find out is whether Kate wuvs Jack or Sawyer ;_;

O someone did once ask what the smoke monster was but seemed happy enough with "i don't know"

ffs

btw the guy shot on the golf course wasn't the economist

How many unanswered questions are there at this stage anyway? There's The Numebrs, the Black Rock, what Richard's deal is, how the Island has all this time energy/can heal people/kill unborn babies etc, and who Jacob and the other dude are and how he became Smokey, and all that Walt stuff.

Apart from the Walt stuff it seems increasingly obvious that these are all tied up as part of the same thing. There's also the Desmond/Widmore/Ellie/Faraday stuff that I really hope they return to soon.

^^ wish they'd kept it at that level, widmore vs ben for possession of magical island. all of this jacob-vs mib predestination stuff is str8 up shitty.

OTM. Seems like they feel obliged to explain why the Island is magical, when you don't really, it just IS.

Or in other words, Island politics >>>>> Island 'mythology'

Come back Nikki & Paolo, all is forgiven

Erm....what the island is or why it's magical is totally something they need to explain. I would say it's only a tiny minority of viewers who disagree. And there are probably 100 unanswered questions we could come up with in about 10 mins. There are so many little events that they'll never explain, basically cos they got addicted to wowing the audience with weird coincidences or happenings. Most of these prob never had a purpose...

I'm not really expecting any further explanation of the numbers--they were degrees on a wheel Jacob used to spy on candidates--and he'd narrowed it down to 5.

I mean seriously..."nobody wants to know what this time jumping island that the entire show is about actually is, more widmore"

I know what Matt DC means, though, and I think LOTS of people here agree with the sentiment that as the show has gotten really involved in the incredibly complex machinations of the chess match-ery, it's sacrificed most of the tension & stakes (and, yes, character-stuff, for those of us who actually *liked* Desmond longing for Penny and Sawyer flirting with Frackles and all that). I mean, if it would have meant more ambiguity in exchange for not having to wonder if Smokey can only inhabit the bodies of people who have died off the island and been brought back but as long as they're not in water or whatever... then give me more birds saying Hurley's name.

But I was one of those people who didn't feel the least bit cheated at the end of the Sopranos...

Question: how about some Lost scoop in return? —Antonio
Ausiello: Thanks for keeping me plugged-in, Antonio. Here’s your Lost scoop: If you’re expecting the Sawyer/Kate/Jack triangle to move front and center during these final 10 episodes, it may be time to start managing those expectations. “We’re moving into the endgame of the show and the stakes have moved beyond, ‘Who’s Kate going to pick?’ and into, ‘Is anyone going to be left alive?,’ says executive producer Damon Lindelof. “I hope viewers are going to be satisfied with what we’re doing, but we’re not writing a romance novel here. I understand in seasons past how that was much more relevant. We’re not neglecting it, but there’s a lot of fish to fry. The elements of the love triangle — Kate’s relationship with Jack, her relationship with Sawyer, Sawyer’s relationship with Juliet, who’s dead — are a huge part of the season. All that stuff is in play.”

best news ive heard all week

I mean seriously..."nobody wants to know what this time jumping island that the entire show is about actually is, more widmore"

That's not really what I mean, I'd have settled with "the island was sitting on a rare pocket of energy that made insane things happen and here's this big war over who possesses it". I'd rather they were pawns in a political game then pawns in some pre-destined chess game between two immortal spirits who inhabit a magic prison island. I'm still holding out hope that we get a psuedo-scientific explanation rather than a magical explanation but that hope is diminishing. It feels a bit like bringing in aliens at the last minute.

Also surely there's no way they'll go through the final Hurley episode without revisiting the numbers?

totally agree.

stuff like "jacob tells hurley to get jack to go to the tower, to wait for someone who jacob knows is coming" is stuff we could do without. i do want to know, i suppose, why jacob chose these particular people. but i've a slight feeling it's on some "final five" level of randomness.

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So where the hell did Christian's corpse go, anyway?

that's not important right now

polar bear ate it

and yeah I want sci fi not mythology

Oh I sort of want to know who ordered Ben to gas all the Dharma people as well. I'm guessing he's basically been Smokey's bitch the whole time, given that Jacob seemed so unbothered when they came face to face.

it seems like ben may not have been aware that smokey and Jacob were at odds with each other.

could have just thought that smokey was a force that worked for jacob, and not an entity that hated him

hence, in the temple, getting judged, and taking guidance as tho it were from higher up the food chain