Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

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― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 5:58 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 7:51 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I didn't hear one fuckin frackles
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:05 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

LOL

xap isn't it more like jacob's been fannying around for 300 years (at least, considering the black rock) and MiB got his work done in 3, starting with the crash of oceanic six?

I really don't feel like loading 1,900 messages and figuring out where the hell you guys started talking about the newest one.

ctrl-f March 1, 2010

if these characters are just pawns of these two dudes and we know they can't be killed, then it sort of kills most of the tension stone dead. If people are just running along their preordained tracks then... who cares?

Yeah, and not the only thing killing tension. Like everyone is just sort of coming and going from the temple and...I dunno, nothing feels as desperate like it did in earlier seasons, which for being the last and final season is sorta sucking.

xpost, oh cool thx

actually, wait now: MiB can probably look like ANY dead person, which is useful for being scary and w/e, but not useful for actual subterfuge because, you know, ppl are inclined to be leery of people they know to be deceased. esp when they can see the dead body, right there or w/e.

his plan to be john locke hinges on one crucial detail: smokey doesn't reanimate the dead, he just assumes their form. so, after ajira crashed, ben et al assume that locke has just been reanimated by the magic of the island, and not a spectre, because they haven't seen his corpse. you'd think ben would be wise to this possibility. but: they trudge off to the temple, ben falls through the floor, locke goes to get rope, and THEN smokey shows up. moreover, as alex, he accuses ben of wanting to kill new locke, and orders him to do w/e he says. this seems to be enough to trick ben into believing that locke is actually a reanimated corpse and not smokey.

and maybe this is just a continuity flaw, but smokey HAS appeared as people that never made it to the island, dead or alive: namely, the dudes from Eko's past.

not "continuity" flaw, but you know

thought the dude's from Eko's past were in the beechcraft?

Oh yeah, I was always thinking smokey appeared as the dead dudes on the little plane, but he showed up as Eko's brother, right?

Eko staggers through the jungle and collapses. The black smoke Monster is seen and heard darting through the background. A Nigerian man (Emeka) appears, and throws a machete at Eko. The machete lands in a tree next to Eko's head. Eko pulls the machete from the tree and turns to face three men: one with his throat cut, one with a severed arm and one (Emeka) who is cowering before Eko and begging for his life. Eko is about to plunge the machete into Emeka, but Emeka changes into Altar Boy (Daniel) who puts a finger to his lips ("Shhh", just like Walt to Shannon) and says, "Confess." Eko drops the machete and runs. He arrives at a river and drinks from it

How come Christian was able to appear to Jack off-island?

maybe it was jacob!

How many 'gamesmen' are there?

There's at least 3 by my count:

Jacob
MIB/Esau
Referee (kid in forest)

Possible others:
Smokey (as possibly distinct from MIB, like a helper dog)
Walt(!!!)

I thought off-island Christian appearing to Jack (was it in the hospital?) was due to Jack going kerrazy. I think there's been a deliberate blurring of the line between "hallucinations" and Smokey dressing up - initially we thought most sightings were the characters' hallucinations (particularly Hurley with Dave, I guess, and also with Locke's special LSD Hallucination Paste) but now we know what Smokey can do we are assuming he was all of them. I think it's probably a mix of the two.

there might have been a bit of hallucination involved with Eko seeing nigerians guys also

Hurley's Perfect English Jin hallucination looking more like time travelling ghost, though. Means he dies soon?

The Eko v Smokey thing seems more important in light of what we now know - presumably Smokey killed Eko for not being evil enough, and spared Ben for being an evil little shit he could rely on.

how did ben summon smokey from within the dharma camp again?

and doesn't that conflict with the system in place of keeping smokey out? i wish there was a marvin candle video on smokey.

Multiple smokeys.

oh god

i'm almost certain they had no idea where they were going with smokey at the time of eko's death. it was a serious low point for the show and if i remember correctly that episode was ropey as s**t i think it was new writers.

i think the fence wasn't operable when ben summoned him. how he summoned him though, i don't know

how did ben summon smokey from within the dharma camp again?

ben goes into a secret hole in the wall in one of the dharma buildings and flushes the smoketoilet

rewatching S2 its a real shame they killed off eko character given the direction they're taking the show

The insinuation was that somehow the water was keeping the smoke at bay, and that little smoketoilet alcove looked a lot like the underground area where Ben confronted the ghost version of Alex to be "judged." I kind of assumed they were somehow connected (physically) and smokey literally can't pass through water.

Maybe there's something to that? It can't go through water, or across ash.

ben summoning the smokemonster is definitely one of the things they need to resolve sooner rather than later

Yeah, they had to swim underwater to get to the bomb area too, which looked like smokeytunnels to me

well considering what was said in the preview...

xp

the whole island is SURROUNDED by water to keep smokey on the ISLAND OMG

Not being able to go across water
would also explain smokeylocke being trapped on the island

Ha xpost

so if jughead sunk the island, what would happen to smokey?

MAKES U THINK

Maybe each of the Others' leaders represents an element that they can block smokey from accessing. Dogen is earth, Ben is water, Locke was air, and...

Oh wait, I'm confusing this with Captain Planet.

loved this episode! mainly because of the last 20 mins (and the fight at the start). huge lol at Ben backing away slowly from Sayid. and woah they've really upped the smokemonster budget this season huh?

killing dogan was for the best - constantly being undermined by noobs. when even claire is retorting "speak english!" at you you know you might as well give up. thought he was cool and yet so useless. gonna watch it again now.

I would love to see Hurley leading the 815 kids in an epic water balloon fight against Locke.

How come Christian was able to appear to Jack off-island?

― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, March 4, 2010 7:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

uh-huhuhuhuh he said "jack off"

haha yeah, i have to agree about when Claire stared Dogen down, he really had just lost all his juice by then

I heard someone say that there are 108 stitches on a baseball yesterday and I was like ugh come on man.

well i mean

i looked that up

then i looked up the significance of the number 108 in 'lost' because tbh by this point old history mayne's memory is pretty facacta.

xpost:

re jack's vision of christian being just a hallucination - i've always believed that scene to be of a piece with hurley's visitations from the dead during his stay at the asylum. and as hurley will passionately attest to, he *isn't* crazy and those really *were* dead people coming to see him.

tbh i think we're inventing these "rules" of the dead more than the writers are

yeah i think ultimately they're going to prove much simpler than people have made them out to be.

Dogen is earth, Ben is water, Locke was air, and...

Hurley is Heart.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/01/AR2010030103497.html?hpid=news-col-blog