Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

"why does smokey choose to appear as people everyone knows are dead?"

he can only inhabit dead bodies, right?

he's not in locke's body

he can only inhabit the likeness of a dead body on the island that died off the island

jacob's whole scheme is f'in retarded. let's bring locke back to life after he was pushed out of a window so he can die later, and become the vessel for the smoke monster to kill me?

he can only inhabit the likeness of a dead body on the island that died off the island

― shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, March 4, 2010 6:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

who fuckin devised these rules??!!

not me, but that is apparently the case, no?

plenty of people have died on-island. christian and locke were the only ones who died off-island.

yeah, not disputing it. jackweed writers devised them.

xxxps i just thought kate had that devoted cult-ish look as the rest of them towards the end, figured she had one of those looks into the island ala locke ("and it was beautiful")

jacob's whole scheme is f'in retarded. let's bring locke back to life after he was pushed out of a window so he can die later, and become the vessel for the smoke monster to kill me?

― shite new answers (cutty), den 4 mars 2010 19:25 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

though jacob's plan was to bring in locke cause he was a "candidate". the problem was MiB at the same time figuring out he could use christian to trick locke into thinking he was some kind of great leader before jacob got a chance to... right?

to trick locke into getting killed by ben and brought back?

i think people are assuming jacob can see everything that will happen which may not be true? like maybe he didn't know sayid would be turned?

if he could see everything then he...

idk, it would be pretty lame neway

xp locke getting killed was part of mib's plan yeah but why exactly ben did it i can't recall atm

ben just hates locke, or he used to. i think that's all.

ben definitely was adamant--"he has to come too" regarding the corpse

ben killed locke once he said that faraday's mom knew how to find the island

iirc

correct. maybe that was all part of MIB's plan though. aka the island wanted it to happen.

right. only moments after stopping locke from killing himself.

MIB was disguised as Alex Linus/Rousseau last season so there's no rule about him having to be someone who died off the island.

OTOH, the rule that he needs their corpse on the island does seem to be true (Yemi, Alex, Christian, Locke).

Oh wait, maybe not even that. He was Ben's mom at some point, I think?

MIB was disguised as Alex Linus/Rousseau last season

wait what

He was Ben's mom at some point, I think?

wait what

head hurts

don't remember him as rousseau ever

yeah pretty sure that hasn't happened

Alex Linus/Rousseau

i.e. her name should be Alex Rousseau but Ben Linus raised her..

wait no, he did appear as alex, that's right---ben went to the temple to be judged. smokey filled the room and then appeared as alex

why is jacob just jacob while smokey-man has to hot-body, as it were?

yeah why doesn't he just walk around as deadwood guy

deadwood guy was just another hot-body

no point walking around as someone nobody recognizes, he uses locke for a reason

but jacob pre-stabbing might have also been able to shapeshift had he any use for it. or else it seems MiB got all the useful skills

aha: it's not that smokey is limited ONLY to people that have died off-island, it's that he is limited ONLY to *corpses* that have made it to the island?

I was gonna say that jacob can go off island and mib can't but jack saw his dad off island

I think I've kind of worked out what my problem with this whole series is, it's that if these characters are just pawns of these two dudes and we know they can't be killed, then it sort of kills most of the tension stone dead. If people are just running along their preordained tracks then... who cares?

They need to get some awareness of this and start fighting back against both Jacob and MIB pretty soon, but it looks like Jack's the only one getting anywhere near doing that.

Also you've got to wonder why Jacob's been fannying around for 3+ years to do whatever he needs to do, whereas MIB just gets right in there and does it. Hopefully it'll become apparent sometime soon.

why did that goddamn bird say hurley's name!!!

in addition to the lack of tension brought about by the introduction of the chessmasters this season is really suffering on the frackles front

nary a frackle

xp aha: it's not that smokey is limited ONLY to people that have died off-island, it's that he is limited ONLY to *corpses* that have made it to the island?

― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), den 4 mars 2010 20:16 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is what i've been thinking too. it was pointed out very clearly by richard to locke that locke had to die in order to "save the island", and these orders came indirectly from MiB. there must be some distinction between smokey controling corpses so to speak and him just appearing as people who have died on the island

Daaaamn I really wish I was seeing these episodes as they aired and not three days later cuz I really don't feel like loading 1,900 messages and figuring out where the hell you guys started talking about the newest one.

frackles fyi

sup etc.

sup frackles
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 5:58 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fracklin out
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 7:51 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I didn't hear one fuckin frackles
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:05 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

LOL

xap isn't it more like jacob's been fannying around for 300 years (at least, considering the black rock) and MiB got his work done in 3, starting with the crash of oceanic six?

I really don't feel like loading 1,900 messages and figuring out where the hell you guys started talking about the newest one.

ctrl-f March 1, 2010

if these characters are just pawns of these two dudes and we know they can't be killed, then it sort of kills most of the tension stone dead. If people are just running along their preordained tracks then... who cares?

Yeah, and not the only thing killing tension. Like everyone is just sort of coming and going from the temple and...I dunno, nothing feels as desperate like it did in earlier seasons, which for being the last and final season is sorta sucking.

xpost, oh cool thx

actually, wait now: MiB can probably look like ANY dead person, which is useful for being scary and w/e, but not useful for actual subterfuge because, you know, ppl are inclined to be leery of people they know to be deceased. esp when they can see the dead body, right there or w/e.

his plan to be john locke hinges on one crucial detail: smokey doesn't reanimate the dead, he just assumes their form. so, after ajira crashed, ben et al assume that locke has just been reanimated by the magic of the island, and not a spectre, because they haven't seen his corpse. you'd think ben would be wise to this possibility. but: they trudge off to the temple, ben falls through the floor, locke goes to get rope, and THEN smokey shows up. moreover, as alex, he accuses ben of wanting to kill new locke, and orders him to do w/e he says. this seems to be enough to trick ben into believing that locke is actually a reanimated corpse and not smokey.

and maybe this is just a continuity flaw, but smokey HAS appeared as people that never made it to the island, dead or alive: namely, the dudes from Eko's past.

not "continuity" flaw, but you know