Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

it seemed pretty clear to me that Kate is going to be the 'eyes' of the audience going into this crazy Smokey gang, at least at first.

i think the show has a lot of little moments and scenes and lines of dialogue that are well written and character-driven, but a lot of the connective tissue bridging those moments is full of crazy inconsistent drunk logic and transparent plotting.

was pretty great to FEAR smokey again during his loud chirp scene

at the end of this episode we really have no idea where they are going next with the on-island stuff (i have not seen the preview) which is pretty great.

i wonder why dogen was the only thing keeping smokey from the temple. not that it really matters anymore.

btw where's jin?

if he's met with any foul play then it will all be worth it to see sun go Herbal Dark Phoenix on a smokey

smokey wld crush her huge face

http://i48.tinypic.com/rjpi4o.jpg

xpost you forget she wields Nature's Toothbrush

I was wondering why I loved Keamy so much, then I realized: Christopher Walken.

― Brakhage, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 04:35 (10 hours ago) Bookmark

worrd the eggs scene was uncanny. weird facial resemblance too, albeit fatter.

dinner is over
THIS IS BUSINESS

ha the brother was horrible. he borrowed eyeliner from bat manuel.

This is season 3 all the fuck over again, yo.

Pool needs a lifeguard. Inspectors be all over that shit.

All the folks who post here after every episode that they don't care about the characters--we get it.

see but i do care about the characters and thats what is pissing me off - the flash sideways removes all our context and background for the characters, because obviously their backstory is now totally different. which would be ok if the majority of time in the FS wasnt spent slowly rolling out really vague background details instead of advancing any real progression. i mean am i supposed to have some emoto connection to FS Sayid just because he looks like the same guy, despite having them wait half the episode to clarify that he has spent the last 12 years nebulously doing "good things" to make up for all the bad stuff? in which case, he's a totally different character than OG Sayid, and why bother to care about him and his deal?

for dissatisfied folks here is some deep analysis, this guy was recommended back in maybe the S5 thread and he catches lots of shit I miss, here is one example:

We're seeing a very distinct pattern in the LAX timeline, and here it is in a nutshell: the circle can be broken. People can change. Mistakes don't need to be repeated, over and over again. Some examples so far:

* Kate Austin is a fugitive on the run, only looking out for herself. She glances into a garage mirror and... BANG! Kate heads back to bring pregnant Claire her stuff, help her through false labor, and befriend her during a major crisis... all at great risk to her personal safety. Cue Claire's credit cards and a makeover shopping spree.

* John Locke is the same angry and defiant cripple he's always been. Still struggling against his paralysis he calls Jack's number, looks into a mirror and... BANG! Locke suddenly hangs up the phone and embraces his condition. Helen loves and accepts him for who he is, there's a nice tearful hug, and everything is unicorns and rainbows.

* Jack Shephard is a workaholic surgeon neglecting a son he only sees once a month. He looks in the mirror and... well, you get the picture. With some help from his mother Jack realizes the error of his ways, eases up on young David, and opens his loving arms to his son. Time for ice cream and some hair-rumpling.

This is some exciting news, actually. It may be proof that Jacob is right. People don't always have to fight, corrupt, and destroy.

― sleeve, Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:43 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't think Sayid ever looked in a mirror btw.

also he reverted to his "character" (i.e. using violence to solve his problems), maybe this is why he is evil and failed the test?

Why is Sayid being written as Wolverine, now?

he was always Wolverine!

i mean in a show with like a billion loose ends already, they really decided it would be a good idea to create ANOTHER alternate timeline which not only seems to have a rudderless future, but also has no established backstory for any of the characters? in the last season? thats just straight up stupid

xpostss

Maybe I should say "more obviously as Wolverine," then I realized Lindelof wrote a Wolverine series.

Lost is pretty much a comic book for people who like television.

is dogen gonna come back to life since he was drowned in majik water?

I don't think Sayid ever looked in a mirror btw.

When he first showed up at his brother's house he was mirrored in the door, but I don't know if that counts.

http://cdn.videogum.com/files/2010/03/baseball_1.jpg
http://cdn.videogum.com/files/2010/03/baseball_talk.jpg

totally not into baseball story. a little late for me to start feeling bad for people i just met yesterday! tell me something about the island, loser!

why did that giant bird say hurley's name

he was always Wolverine!

SRSLY. And Sawyer was always Gambit, Jack was always Scott Summers, Kate was always Jean Grey and John Locke was always a bald dude in a wheelchair who just knew stuff.

Shannon obv. Silver Fox btw.

wait, wasn't sawyer wolverine? sawyer is way more wolverine.

Maybe '70s Wolvie but if we're talking Ninja assassin, looking-for-redemption, love interests-always-tragically-killed Wolvie it's leaning towards Sayid.

Kearny vs. Wolverine
http://www.fancast.com/blogs/wp-content/post_images/blob-durand-wolverine.jpg

I think that baseball story he told was another misdirection. It's not when Dogen dies that the smokey protection is lifted but when the baseball bobs out of his grasp.

Magic baseball.

it's the baseball from the world series jack watched in the others' prison

guys I have a home gym it can tell if u are good or eeevil

Gambit is a much better match for Sawyer than Wolverine aside from the Logan/Scott/Jean love triangle

I am surprised by the lack of enthusiasm for this episode, I thought it was really fucking good. Just v exciting and of course the plot was moved forward, this ep clearly set the tone for the rest of the series, a war is about to happen.

I thought they really introduced the idea of Smokey being utterly evil quite well, just the whole tone of the episode seemed to lurch into something more sinister than usual. There's something really unsettling about seeing Sayid sort of in thrall to Smokey in the jungle that time. Sure it's all a bit overblown (hi dere catch a falling star) but after 5 seasons I feel I bought into this show ages ago.

Anyone else think Smokey is maent to be more powerful here? There were some louder sounding roars than usual.

Also I can't help but feel Jack is going to replace Jacob in the next few eps.

But yeah overall thought this episode was great.

I don't think Sayid ever looked in a mirror btw.

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:15 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also he reverted to his "character" (i.e. using violence to solve his problems), maybe this is why he is evil and failed the test?

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:16 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I like the idea of the sideflashes as counterfactual morality tests! Like, "if life had really given you the opportunity to be a good and fulfilled person, would you have taken it?"

^ditto

is dogen gonna come back to life since he was drowned in majik water?

― scott seward, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 12:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's what i thought too

maybe that's what Secret Redemption Sayid IS COUNTING ON...

i loved this ep and have high hopes for the rest of the season

in order to really get into this 'epic war' storyline it'd be nice to know a bit more about
the two sides fighting each other + what they are fighting about:

in particular would love to know:
- who/what is jacob and what does it actually mean for jack to replace jacob?
- who/what is smokey and how does he plan to get off the island
- how can "jacob's team" possibly compete with smokey + his goons?

obvs we don't need all these answers right now but i think they need to give us a bit more in the next ep or so

he was always Wolverine!

SRSLY. And Sawyer was always Gambit, Jack was always Scott Summers, Kate was always Jean Grey and John Locke was always a bald dude in a wheelchair who just knew stuff.

Shannon obv. Silver Fox btw.

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, March 3, 2010 1:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dying @ this. IT ALL FITS.

iirc Josh Holloway was offered the role of Gambit a couple times but couldn't do it cause of the Lost schedule

all of the answers you seek are in this book:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/9/96/20080710174735!The_Stand_cover.jpg

more questions

-dogen said smokey would kill every living thing on the island. why/how/to what end? also, i was under the impression before that the events on the island threatened the entire world. is smokey going to try and get to the mainland (like jurassic park) or is it back to just being an island problem?
-to what extent can smokey control kate/sayid etc? is he controlling them or have they just become evil and thus more likely to make the choices that benefit him?

season finale: smokey loose in L.A.

xp: is the stand not about a plague or something?

The Stand is about a plague that kills 99.44% of humanity.
The Survivors is a UK miniseries about a plague that kills 99.44% of humanity.
Survivor is a game show set on an island.
Lost is set on an island.

The Stand = Lost.

season finale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0O9NVCVMwo

The Jack/Kate dynamic is like bad Claremont writing, Sayid right now is like Mark Millar/Frank Miller Wolverine with a touch of the "every woman I love dies" thing.

xp ahahaha wtf!

Claire's acting as evil again was truly dire. It seems they couldn't make Claire evil without also making her EVEN STUPIDER. And Sayid's face for his version of evil is as if they'd asked him to play a sex offender.

that'd be pretty awesome if the season finale was actually just good vibes and a huge party

i shamefully admit i was amused by that video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDgbKJWDxcE