Deadwood

Last of the Ninth is Dead (not the capital d). This new one, "Luck," seems like it has a good chance, with Michael Mann on it. Dennis Farina and John Ortiz were just cast (neither is the lead, though, supporting roles).

I loved John from Cincinnati a lot.

horse racing show gonna star... dustin hoffman!?

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118015910.html?categoryId=14&cs=1

i must have prosopagnosia or something cuz i didn't realize until tonight that the guy who played jack mccall (punk who shoots hickok) in season one is the same guy who played francis walcott (hearst geologist/whore killer) in season two.

They look fairly different.

they're very different characters also (although both are cowards and cocksuckers), but now that i know it just seems so apparent. the type of thing that makes me think superman's clark kent gambit could totally work.

Francis Walcott was one of my five favorite characters on the show, I think.

I would make a point to watch anything with Garrett Dillahunt (until that Raising Hope show) because of Walcott.

The confrontation between Wolcott and Ellsworth outside the mines is among my faves.

and he is the only watchable thing in that raising hope show imo xp

so many amazing characters on this show - Joanie, Silas Adams, Ellsworth, Charlie Utter, Ricky Jay's character

seven episodes in, the joys. mcshane doing magnificent work with swearengen.

I want to start it over again. I love Wild Bill so much

gf and I rewatched the whole thing this summer. Still my favorite show ever.

I crank out my blu-rays every summer. Gorgeous stuff.

Wish I could forget it just to rewatch w/ fresh eyes. So fucking great.

Otm

so much 2 love

WHY DID IT HAVE TO END?!?!? etc etc

Timothy Olyphant was on Nerdist podcast this week, told some A+++ stories about Deadwood including

- Season 2 story arc with the little kid getting shot apparently came about because the child actor's mom pissed off Milch - Milch came to Olyphant's trailer one morning and said something like 'We're gonna kill the kid. It'll be good for you though. Don't worry."

- Olyphant and McShane spent a good portion of Season 3 re-negotiating their contracts. After about 8 episodes had aired they finally received their checks for that work. Olyphant bought a house with the money. 3 weeks later the show was cancelled. DOH. To keep the house he 'shaved his head and went to Bulgaria' (ie filmed the movie 'Hitman' lol) He said if HBO had planned to can the show all along, they would never have paid out those checks. So it was definitely a very last minute, spur of the moment thing. He thinks that HBO pushed Milch too hard and Milch went 'oh yeah well fuck you'. he didn't give specifics though. He did say he thinks it's funny when people ask him if he's going to make a sequel to Hitman. He's kinda like, 'Well I still have the house, so..."

Some good stuff relating to that in Sepinwall's book. Interestingly nobody involved can get the story exactly straight. The way Milch tells it, the execs were iffy on a fourth season due to costs and falling ratings, and floated the idea of a shortened one, to which Milch balked. They hadn't really come to any decisions but Milch knew that Olyphant was buying a house, so he supposedly called him up and told him that there might not be a season 4, which supposedly led to Olyphant's agent floating it in the trade press that Tim was suddenly available because there wouldn't be a fourth season, and everything went to hell.

Also some good stuff with the writers, who said that only the first four episodes were ever written in advance. From then on scripts were were written the day before or the day of (Milch would convene the writers in the morning and they would bounce off ideas). They had general historical events to hit, but things like Hickock's letter to his wife were put in because everyone knew about it, but they had no idea what they were going to do with it until they wanted EB to interact with Walcott, and then further they didn't know what to do with it until Utter needed to confront Walcott and they saw a resolution.

Also ex-HBO, now Starz, exec said that John from Cincinnati didn't work because Milch's style was suited for Deadwood as they had these permanent sets and backlot they were working on, whereas in JFC they did a lot of location work and you had to plan in advance. Apparently some of the tension on Luck had to do with Mann taking control and refusing to Milch work like that as well, forcing him to have completed scripts.

http://vimeo.com/88681835

Shame it ended. WAtched the 2nd 2 series a couple of weeks ago cos I didn't think I'd gone right through them when I dl/ded them a few years ago.
Probably should watch the 1st series again. Moved onto Justified cos Deadwood ended way too soon.

JUst about to watch the beginning of Hell On Wheels after watching the first series of Copper yesterday.
Keep getting hit with the thought that Copper is like an American Ripper Street or vice versa. Like similarly set with similarly historically tied storylines that are almost like how you'd tell an equivalent story on either side of the Atlantic at about the same time, Ripper St is about 20 years later though. Well have enjoyed both.

Wish there was more Deadwood. I've been salivating over some of the clothing and thinking that's what I want to get into making. WAnt to get the patterns for western shirts like that Cavalry/bib thing the guy Dave wears and the stripey collarless one the other Swearingen minion wears as well as some of the more complex stuff others are wearing . I just think the pattern for the 2 shirts is available in the same set from Folkwear.

resurrection?

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/12/hbo-deadwood-movie

nice

what a weird sentence

Like many HBO dramas back then, it quickly became sick with Emmy noms in categories like best drama, best writing and best acting.

Emmy noms are poisonous

"Emmy noms" what a ridiculous thing to type out

nom vom

that piece makes a lot out of two tweets from Garret Dillahunt

still seems very unlikely given that McShane is always in high demand and several of the others are regulars on other series right now (Paula Malcolmson, Kim Dickens, is Molly Parker still doing House of Cards?) but this is the era of the reboot so who knows

Yeah, but this isn't like Twin Peaks, where the vast majority of its cast have had very low-key careers since its cancellation. That was a one-time hat trick that certainly won't work (or won't work without a lot of logistical scrambling) with Deadwood's cast.

I'm in. Shit was just about to get super-exciting when they shut the show down.

I wanna know what became of George Hearst!

well, HBO at least officially commented on it:

In reference to Garret Dillahunt’s tweet regarding the rumored Deadwood movie, there have only been very preliminary conversations.

pleeeeeeeeeeaze

Is it that difficuky

Oops

...difficult/impossible to get some people together for a movie

Deadwood, which focused on life in the South Dakota town in the late 1800s, boasted an all-star cast of character actors who went on to headline more critically-acclaimed cable shows. Among them: Timothy Olyphant, Ian McShane, Molly Parker, John Hawkes, Paula Malcomson, Dayton Callie, Robin Weigart, Kim Dickens, Powers Boothe, Titus Welliver, Anna Gunn, Sarah Paulson, and of course, Dillahunt.

i know dick all about hollywood pay scales but half of these people are like 4x the household names they were when they were on DW

i love this show so much but eh

I did not know ian mcshane had been in stuff since btw

I'd think one of the stumbling blocks for a potential movie, in terms of coordinating scheduling, is that a lot of the people whose careers have taken off post-Deadwood are still working in television. P.S. I coordinate scheduling for the Hollywood movies, if it isn't clear that I know exactly what I'm talking about.

yeah well my uncle works for nintendo!!!

j/k

i'm super happy all of these people got big after that show. as a lover of actors it's almost consolation if a finale can't get made

I did not know ian mcshane had been in stuff since btw

but has he been in anything worthy of his talent?

i'm still holding out hope he'll pop up in the new Tarantino

mcshane did Pinter on Broadway

you know, next to which tarantino is horseshit on boots

also he's joining that elves n' fairies HBO show that i will never see

hearing stories from the actors about what a nightmare it was just in terms of actually working, i dunno if this will get off the ground. to be clear: they all seem to love the show & milch, but practically he is nuts.

idk how on earth a movie wouldnt turn into heaven's gate crazytown

I think the big roadblock to this is that they struck and sold-off their enormous and incredibly expensive sets back in 06, not sure hbo would really want to recreate them for some two hour decade-late wrap-up

Maybe for the movie the whole Deadwood gang could move into an apartment building in NYC, have a hot-headed landlord and wacky neighbors, the whole nine. Much lower production costs, for sure.