c/d: paris hilton

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(From that site that Dan linked to comes the following comment: Get real. The chicks got mucho dinero but I wouldn't screw her with John Kerry's dick tied to a telephone pole. WTF?)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

cuz john kerry's got a big ol' dick, y'see, only he has a problem of showing it, apparently

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

the whole "curves are in" thing isn't really valid. it's a slogan thrown around when someone is slender yet not flat-chested (gisele, elizabeth hurley, etc).

I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure how that contradicts my main point. I think people are slightly more cautious about saying a woman has no boobs (vs. "no ass"), but it's still a fuller figure means more "real" equation.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I just want some MOTHAFUCKIN FAT FUCKIN TITTIES O_O

that's hot, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

People are more cautious about saying "no boobs" because there hasn't been a widely-publicized, well-documented rash of fatalities/horrifying health complications linked to butt implants.

Also, people do still criticize women for not having boobs!

Finally, your main point is invalid because when they pick "full-figured" sex symbols, they pick people like J.Lo and Beyonce, neither of which could possibly be bigger than an 8. (Kate Winslet and Drew Barrymore are other good examples of this phenomenon of "sexy women in Hollywood who are full-figured are at least four sizes smaller than the national average".)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Look everyone, my main point is that it's not ok to redress the tyranny of thin by putting people down for having "no ass"! It's not that complicated. I wrote "FULLER" in both posts, ok?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer has no ass.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Do too!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The first time I met Nabisco he recommended a book to me, too! What's with that guy?!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That's hot.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess he thinks he's all cool, because he can like *READ* and stuff.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we put people down for having no ass in the interest of being catty about famous people? The tyranny of thin is a snoozer :(

adez, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

whatta guy, nabisco.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

(Kate Winslet and Drew Barrymore are other good examples of this phenomenon of "sexy women in Hollywood who are full-figured are at least four sizes smaller than the national average".)

Yeah, I love how when Britney Spears was getting raked over in the press for letting herself go by being chubby and full-figured, my ex (who is pretty skinny herself) had backstage passes and took her little sister to the show. After the show my ex was standing next to Britney pretty close up and said she was absolutely tiny.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think most of the media were picking on Britney for gaining weight per se but because she just let herself go in general. Walking around gas station bathrooms barefoot and marrying unemployed LFO dancers, and whatnot.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

There were quite a few unpleasant comments right here on this board.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I would never be one to confuse ILM with the press, but the tabloids were certainly making an issue of her "weight-problem".

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

The tabloids are a bit different. They walk this weird line where every female celebrity is judged to be grossly overweight or a sickly anorexic -- there is no medium.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Paris Hilton! I think she's absolutely gorgeous, and I am fascinated by the whole famous-for-being-famous thing. I also think she's secretly very intelligent in her own way. I would like to chat with her, though not regularly. I would definitely like to see more young women treat her as a role model.

Slagging women off for being too skinny when they're clearly fine is as ridiculous as slagging women off for being too fat when they're nothing of the sort. And I find it disturbing that anyone could actually loathe her, wtf? And that she's labelled as this super-dirrty slut (which by the people doing the labelling tends to be a negative) because of the sex video.

in other words, Spencer otm.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

*steps into thread, looks around, leaves*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

and jesus this 'she has no ass' thing is stupid. So? So what if she has no ass?

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, let's gloss over the racism accuasation because she's a party icon. Nice one.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Basically (and I recognize that this is irrational) my opinion of anyone who knows about the "stupid niggers" comment and still likes Paris Hilton is pretty much bottom of the barrell. Have fun with your vacuous princess and don't talk to me ever again.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I would definitely like to see more young women treat her as a role model.

?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, I've only heard that as a rumor, and when it's reported no one actually says that they themselves heard it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, I couldn't open your link above. Can you paste any of it here?

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never heard about the 'stupid niggers' comment. would anyone like to elaborate? I'm on dial-up and glossed over most of the thread.

role model, as in hanging around all day doing nothing but getting mad money = the way forward!

(I am aware that one has to be an heiress to do this, yes. it was kind of tongue-in-cheek.)

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, I've only heard that as a rumor, and when it's reported no one actually says that they themselves heard it.

Hence my comment about my feelings being irrational; if it was well-documented there wouldn't be any caveats on my part.

Dan, I couldn't open your link above. Can you paste any of it here?

In response to I believe the second sex tape:

Today in the "news" it was said that in the video two black guys approach her and ask her to model their clothes , she was nice to them and said no thanks ,,when they left she turned around and said to her friend "stupid niggers" she was not going to model for them lol

Completely unsubstantiated but with an alleged source (a 12-hour long sex and drug bonanza). My big issue is that I can very easily see her saying this and I don't really like her anyway. (Please let's not use the stupid "but she's friends with Nicole Ritchie" argument because I can tell you from personal experience that it is not only possible but probable for black people to discover their white friends are racists who don't see why that should impinge upon the friendship with said black person who isn't like those niggers.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm half on-board with this 'secret genius' meme. I only saw the first season of the simple life, but c'mon. She's not audacious, just entitled. She's entertaining in the way that all famous spazzed-out wrecks are, but she's not half the screwball that Nicole Richie is. She has a face like a jarful of smashed asses. Yet it all never stops being zlol.

adez, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Nicole Ritchie was very likeable on Stern last week.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(I can picture her saying it pretty easily too, if it weren't so passe I would invoke 'VICE' right here.)

langsty, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Nicole is hilarious!

Paris did look outstanding in that Guess? ad she did and in "Zoolander". (but yeah, I get gigantic Gavin VICE vibes from her, only with buckets of money attached)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Nicole Richie, she's a bit more sympathetic, and she's actually chatty and has some personality whereas PH can't seem to muster more than a monosyllabic grunt half the time?

AIDSrian, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

so she didn't definitely say it!

Whether or not her saying it is plausible, I'd say that people making up this story is equally plausible given that she is the object of so much irrational hatred.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(nb I would still sleep with Paris Hilton for tons of money; I would just hate myself afterwards)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: paris hilton or ann coulter

:'(, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Paris, duh!

i think Paris would be a superb fag hag.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I WOULD NEVER EVER EVER IN A MILLION YEARS SLEEP WITH ANN COULTER.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Paris has a wonky eye but Coulter has dead zombie eyes.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude seriously I had never heard about the "stupid niggers" comment until today, if it's true then that's a pretty shitty thing to say, I agree. So that qualifies my statement of "Paris Hilton is ok by me".

Allyzay, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, wait, I found the story friend Stripey told me a couple of years ago about Hilton. And it's a doozy:

http://www.anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=6487

In August 2002, Paris Hilton crashed Siouxsie Sioux's private after-party in Los Angeles. "Paris sauntered straight over to Siouxsie's table, plopped herself down and proceeded to make a call on her cellphone. Siouxsie's guests held their tongues but the guest of honor wasn't about to be dissed by a 20-year-old socialite, so she told Paris, 'You are being rude and ruining my party. Take that incessant vapid conversation away from here.'"

Beautiful. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

oh i'd be self-loathing alright! self-loathing all the way to the bank!

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

PARIS HITLER

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I love her! You guys are too hard on the stars.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Who cares who Siouxsie Sioux is or what she looks like?

Who did release magic family out from the base of $499 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

From New York Daily News
Originally published on September 30, 2004

A sorry tale of
Hilton's latest tape

'DUMB' AND DUMBER? A newly surfaced Paris Hilton video reportedly includes an ugly racial remark.

Paris Hilton has two faces - and one of them is very, very ugly.

In a recently surfaced 12-hour videotape, Hilton is shown in a rather disturbing scene with two African-American men who ask her if she would model their fashion line.


Hilton, standing with pal Brandon Davis, is polite to the men, but calls them "dumb n--s" after they leave, according to British reporter Carole Aye Maung, who reviewed the tape.


"Two ... guys begin talking to her," Maung told us. "She's being very, very sweet to them. [But] she definitely uses the N-word. It's so cruel, because they were so lovely, and she was being so lovely to them."


Hilton's reps refused to comment when asked about this specific incident on the tape, first uncovered by Star magazine.


According to Maung, the marathon recording includes footage of Hilton "making love" with Nick Carter in the back of a car, greeting one-time boyfriend Jason Shaw in the nude and rolling a "cigarette."


She jokes: "It'll be Paris Hilton Two: How to roll a joint."


It's doubtful she's laughing today.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't found much else to substantiate it, as the comment and the tape dropped off the rumor mill so quickly. I read about Hilton's responding to the allegation at the time too but can't find it now(she said something along the lines of "I'm not racist, everyone knows that", but didn't confirm or deny she said it)

tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Former friend brands Paris Hilton a 'racist'
October 15, 2004, 10:02:16

Paris Hilton has been branded a racist by her former friend. Brandon Davis, who fell out with Paris earlier this year, claims the hotel heiress regularly refers to black people as "ni****s" and is forever using racial slurs against other ethnic minorities.

Davis, who dates 'The O.C.' star Mischa Barton, is quoted by America's National Enquirer magazine as saying: "She was forever using the 'N-word.'

I told her not to use it. It was offensive. But she just laughed. She is a racist, plus an idiot. Every black person she referred to was a 'ni****'. " Davis said he ended his friendship with the reality TV star because of her attitude.

He added: "She uses the word all the time, and I've known her all of her life. It's 'ni**** this' and 'ni**** that.' She's a disgrace. She is a racist!

"She puts down Jews and other minorities, too. And I'm Jewish. I found it depressing. I finally had enough of her attitude six months ago, and I finished with her.

I don't want anything to do with her. I don't need anything from her. She is no longer my friend. She's just not a nice person."

It was recently reported that Paris used racial slurs in a new 12-hour videotape, in which she stars, by allegedly calling two black men "dumb ni****s".

However, although she has not denied using the word, she did issue a statement saying: "Anyone who knows me knows that this is not me.

I love everybody and am not a person who discriminates against anyone - ever."

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Who cares who Siouxsie Sioux is or what she looks like?

I do!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I do too! Siouxsie rulz!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)


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