Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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No Jar Jar Binks? RIPOFF.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

Such a horrible idea. Altering lame sets and cheesy spaceship models - how does that IMPROVE the series? 75% of the Star Trek charm is kitsch. Lose that and you've got The Next Generation plus Shatner overacting.

(though Uhura >>>>> anyone on TNG)

― milo z (mlp), Sunday, 10 September 2006 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

fucking stupid idea

― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 10 September 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it pretty much defeats the whole purpose of TOS, just like those SW Special Editions. /bitter geek

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 10 September 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

in principle i'm not against redoing things or "refurbishing" them, but only if it was ever done consistently and evenly. i hate it when all they do is add a bunch of tacky cgi critters then leave all the horrible matte shots intact.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

so yeah, this is gonna suck. and they better not pulla lucas and take the originals out of circulation.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

At least they're not gonna try to CGI all the Klingons to make them look like Worf (I hope).

Oh, and the originals aren't going anywhere, thankfully:

The original versions of the episodes will continue to be available on TV Land and G4, and the previously-released DVDs will continue to be available. The new versions will be seen only in broadcast syndication for at least the next year or so, and will air as they're completed. The new versions can't be shown on cable until all the episodes are done, as cable syndication deals are made in "strip" packages (meaning entire runs of episodes - complete seasons or entire series). The original film masters of all the episodes will be preserved.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, revisionist Worf-like Klingons would be the FIRST FUCKING THING Lucas would do to it.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

actually i wouldn't care if they did that (it doesn't affect anything either way), but if they replaced the actors, or added a spock shoots-first sort of revision that would suck. or if they gave the tribbles little beaks or tentacles

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

Kirk: Matt Damon
Spock: Ben Affleck
Bones: Philip Seymour Hoffman
Uhura: Rosario Dawson
Chekov: Borat
Sulu: Sonny Chiba
Scotty: Ewan Macgregor (drunk)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

(Dir. and writer Kevin Smith.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

Chekov: Borat

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh you KNOW I'm right.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

"Captain, this planet amazing!"

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/borat/sacha_baron_cohen/boratcannes2.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

No, that's one revision I would wholeheartedly support.

ON MY PLANET THERE IS PROBLEM

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

"Dude, fire the fucking photons, c'mon."

"CAPTAIN I HURT HERE."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

Special guest star Jason Bateman as Jason Bateman in wacky Arrested Development crossover episode about the intergalactic search for David Cross's sense of humor.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

"so...the Kilngon is like Jew?"

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

harry mudd: owen wilson
the tribble salesman guy: luke wilson
squire of gothos: ben stiller
khan: bill murray

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 10 September 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

Sci-Fi Channel has been showing what they claim to be digitally remastered eps for the last few weeks and they haven't been fucked with as far as I can tell. It just looks like the picture quality's been cleaned up.

― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Sunday, 10 September 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

I've been watching TNG a lot lately on DVD, having acquired the third and fourth series on DVD. It's deadly stuff.

I am loving how sleazy Ryker is. He manages to make the most everyday lines drip with sordid innuendo.

― The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

bet you'd never guess that I was a stone(d)trekkie in the 70s.

― lovebug 2.0 (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 January 2007 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

"Make it Saab"

Here, was any of Enterprise any good? I watched the first one and was turned off by dreadful cheesy theme tune.

― stet (stet), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

The one episode I watched wasn't as good as Quantum Leap.

― chap (chap), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Is it universally accepted that TNG is the pinnacle of Trek achievement?

― The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

The theme tune to Enterprise is brilliant!!!

It's the best next thing to the original!

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer original Trek, but I'm hardly a hardcore fan so my opinion probablydoesn't count for much (I've seen maybe 20 eps of TNG).

xpost

― chap (chap), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

The best thing about Enterprise is that they explained why the Klingons looked liked humans in the original series! I had often wondered.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

> Is it universally accepted that TNG is the pinnacle of Trek achievement?

Oh, hell no.

> The theme tune to Enterprise is brilliant!!!

ibid.

― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

The best thing about Enterprise is that they explained why the Klingons looked liked humans in the original series! I had often wondered.

please explain?

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the Klingons came up with some disease by accident, and the only cure (created by Dr Phlox) was some sort of genetic enginneering that'd make look more human as a result. It was these kinda human Klingons that Kirk et al. came into contact with in their adventures.

Oh, Wiki explains it better than me!

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 21 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Link!

― The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

original series > wrath of khan >>>>>> the other movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TNG (and everything else even lower)

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

no way are *all* the movies > tng, you r moron!!!

― UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

tng headfuck episodes (beverley all alone on enterprise, riker all alone in some crazy delusional state of mind) are best trek ever.

― ledge (ledge), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

Deep Space 9 underrated.

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

Best Trek Ever = Sisko complicitously and Garak actively (and both fraudulently) recruiting Romulans to fight the Dominion.

xp with fandango, who knows whereof he speaks

― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

beverley all alone on enterprise

possibly my favorite tng episode!!! best part is when its just her and jean luc!

― UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

Deep Space 9 underrated.

I think you need to watch it in order from the beginning. About the only thing that could get me to do this is a roomie with a box set

― UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

tng headfuck episodes (beverley all alone on enterprise, riker all alone in some crazy delusional state of mind) are best trek ever.

-- ledge (tomdotledge...), January 21st, 2007. (ledge)

also see TIME LOOP episode, EYES IN THE DARK episode, RECREATE FREAKY CHAIR episode

― 69 (plsmith), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

Set phasers to DIE DIE DIE!! on Star Trek: Voyager (and everything after)

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to write a Trek = Marvel post (Classic has Lee/Kirby charm, early TNG veers between the worst Gary Friedrich and the best Roy Thomas), but bailed out because I never watched after TNG.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

There must have been about a million tng time loop episodes!

Just came across this in a, ahem, beverly crusher article on wikipedia:

Sub Rosa - Attends her grandmother's funeral and spends time in her haunted house, falling in love with a ghost.

Ok clearly there was good headfuck and bad headfuck.

― ledge (ledge), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

True Q - Befriends and mentors a young girl who is developing omnipotent powers. She is turned into a dog in this episode.

The banality of episode summaries

― ledge (ledge), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

If Trek = Marvel does that make Star Wars DC?

Anyway, that means ENTERPRISE = ULTIMATES?

― UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

yes and yes

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

i kind of love star trek but only through TNG and I didn't bother with the last two movies. what I saw of enterprise was so bad, so was voyager. ds9 seemed alright but i don't want to ahve to watch something all the time and keep track of a story arc and a plot and be all serious when it's STAR TREK, you know.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

DS9 was consistently good, never really liked the others (but the occasional mindfuck episode was worth watching). Voyager and Enterprise didn't even look good enough to try.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

There aren't even enough nerds out there seeding for me to get to 100% on these Enterprise episodes that are trickling my way. It must be shit.

― stet (stet), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

"Shit" is pretty kind, when talking about Enterprise. The Vulcan and the Doctor were ok, the rest of the cast was terrible. The premise was stupid and the scripts were worse.

― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

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