Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

Jack had his appendix taken out on the island in season 4. Alt-Jack having it taken out when he was 7 must have been a change that happened pretty soon after the 1977 explosion. How old is Jack anyway?

Jack was born around 65 iirc. It's fuzzy logic, but I read someones observations that at the time of the 1977 bomb, jack's appendix scar was about three years old, which would place the surgery (linearlyish) in 74 which corresponds roughly with his mom saying he was "7 or 8."

lolstpedia says dec 3 1969. so it would be very soon after the bomb.

"Jack's mum didn't seem that bothered that her late husband had included some random woman she'd never heard of in his will."

I forgot about this cause of the commercial break, but I *assumed* when it happened that they were going to follow it up with more drama. Would have liked to have seen Jack's mom do the obvious thing and try to Facebook her.

In 2004?

was facebook already around in 2004 in the alternate timeline?

Yeah the reason the plane didn't crash was because the pilot Tweeted for aid when they hit turbulence.

been on fb since 03 yall

he tells his son he'll be back in an hour. no you won't! you're driving there! why not take your son? it is his access visit.

jack did ask his son if he wanted to come!

kid was too busy being a secretive little prick

Probably trying to free an imprisoned Iraqi or something.

Wouldn't put it past the writers to actually make that happen.

And that Iraqi would be . . . Nadia!

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I'm getting more and more of a sinking feeling with each episode of this show. The mystical Jacob stuff has worn thin quickly, and the wrapup looks like it's just falling into 'search for The One/final battle' territory. There's no more eerie menace, just one weak gotcha after another. I'd be delighted to be wrong, but I don't see being anything but ultimately disappointed.

my guess is that the ending will be vaguely circular, and not tidy: like, even if it all ~ends~ for these characters, there will be the suggestion that the island is FOREVER and that another crew of ppl will wash up on its shores soon or something

another crew of THEM

but hey gbx, it only ends once..

Just watched the end of the final season of the Wire, so now I'm expecting the Lost finale will be similar with suggestion of new people taking over old roles etc
and lots of lingering shots of Baltimore.

Jacob will be sorry he made up all that bullshit!

i just want to know what the island is and why it moves

the only thing we're going to learn by the end of all this is why we hate these characters so much. lindelof and cuse are so delusional that we watch this show for character development. i'm sure they thought we'd get all choked up at the jack and his kid stuff...

I dunno, a lot of the things they introduced as character development turned out to be plot devices.

nah i'm into character development. as long as the character is kate and the development is death

Like:
Jack is a man, but his kid is a white Walt.
Walt. White. Man

Walt Whitman.

I would like to reiterate that Sawyer shooting Kate down on the escape fantasy bs last week (or whenever it was) was awesome.

nah i'm into character development. as long as the character is kate and the development is death

― david cam'ron (tpp), Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:04 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

agree

"Like:
Jack is a man, but his kid is a white Walt.
Walt. White. Man

Walt Whitman."

Had a totally hysterical Black Dynamite LOL moment with this.

Did anyone else feel like the pacing was really ... weird with this ep? Felt really rushed, like they were trying to sell too many things and not developing any one of them satisfyingly.

Jacob is beginning to really, really annoy me. It seems like he's training Jack to want to kill him, again. At this point I can totally see how MIB would want to take out anybody associated with him.

nah i'm into character development. as long as the character is kate and the development is death

I laughed long and hard at this

this son of jack's is the same one he accused his dad of conceiving with his ex-wife from happy gilmore right? i'm a bit confused cos they way he said "i'd be a terrible dad" to hurley in the jungle didnt seem wryly regretful or secretive or anything.

don't really get what the deal is with jack's dad either since youre getting both apparitions of the dead and corporeal bodysnatching on the island. if he's a ghost why bother with his corpse being missing? if his body was taken over, by jacob presumably, then why wasn't jacob still in it? guhh.

Jack is his own grandpa.

also the specificity of jacob asking them to dial 108 would suggest that yeah someone new is coming to the island rather than it just being a longwinded ruse? but then lostpedia says that 108.WALLACE was already crossed out so fuck knows.

please let it be billy dee

the funny thing about lost is how it's all about mystery and revelations or the anticipation of them and how slow and painful and obvious 99% of it is. not obvious like predictable necessarily but obvious like "yeah the wee dad at the recital is the samurai... ...yes we know... ...look it's obvious it's him the kid's japanese and the guy with his back to us is short and has the samurai hairdo... ...come on... ...yes it's the samurai we know... ...still got his back to us... ...still got the hairdo... ...yes... ...oh jack's walked past him and the samurai's said something to him and yes it's the samurai". so many rubbish and meaningless reveals have panned out like that and you spot it immediately and get bored almost even more immediately. actually that's not the funny thing it's one of the crap things.

jack's dad has been taken over by smokey, obviously, not jacob. claire mentioned her father, pretty obv not jacob.

i agree with cutty above, the idea it's primarily a character based drama (which just happens to be set on a mysterious island with a gigantic monster made of black smoke and endless mysteries) is fucking moronic and smacks of writer arrogance.

"oh why do you plebs care about the island, it's about the characters!"

conrad otm sadly, i think they've gotten worse for doing this. we see flocke's feet as he approaches jin and claire in the tent. it's obviously him. but then when we see his face there's the 'surpriiiise/dramatic revealing moment' music. same when ben turned to locke in last week's in the staff common room.

jack's dad has been taken over by smokey, obviously, not jacob.

well Ilana said he is now stuck in Locke's body, apart from when he is smoke. so if he was using Christian before Locke, why switch? and why did Christian's body disappear when Locke's didn't. Something to do with being on Jacob's list maybe?

same when ben turned to locke in last week's in the staff common room.

yeah but who expected ben to strangle locke last season!

Jack was born around 65 iirc. It's fuzzy logic, but I read someones observations that at the time of the 1977 bomb, jack's appendix scar was about three years old, which would place the surgery (linearlyish) in 74 which corresponds roughly with his mom saying he was "7 or 8."

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:57 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this really interests me, the idea that things that happened differently in the flash-sideways timeline could correspond in some weird ways to things that happened to them after the time jumps

I'm with conrad on all these other-timeline "connections." They surely won't be important at the end; it seems they're only there to throw the Losties more bones to play with. But I did lol at Ben being fussy about the coffee maker in the teacher's room, even though the long reveal was stupid.

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the island wanted him to wear a bra

I wanted more ANSWERS this season, not more questions about Jack's undergarments

It totally was a character-based drama once upon a time - I'm thinking the first season when every flashback was a massive revelation. They've got stupider and more impulsive and more unrealistic since the writers decided they wanted to start massively advancing the plot.

I mean, 99% of the problem with the characterisation in Lost is the reasoning behind their stupid impulses - Jack smashing up the lighthouse, Juliet at the end of last season, everything Kate has done in about three years etc.

It totally was a character-based drama once upon a time - I'm thinking the first season when every flashback was a massive revelation.

this isnt really 'character-based' in the way i assume ppl are talking about--yes characters are involved but theyre just plot vehicles; the revelations are interesting not because we care about the characters but because they advance the plot or our understanding of it

Yeah I mean it's not Mad Men put it that way.

feels like the Temple is the last place for everyone on the island to go and where everyone will end up e.g. surely Jack will ignore Jacob and go back to the temple to wescue Kate and co zzz. i would still like Widmore to return to the island for a real showdown with Ben, parallel to some kind of battle between Jacob and Smokey.

Yeah I mean it's not Mad Men put it that way.

if only when they'd gone back to the 50s we'd had christina hendricks riding around the island on kate's horse, smoking.