UK Fnordcooler 23: Immanentizing The Eschaton - When The Pyramid Meets The Eye!

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mmmm, sin.

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

She later visited my brother and his then girlfriend when THEY were living in sin, but let's not bring up that again.

I also got along better with my in-laws than my parents, but I lost them when Joe dumped me. Oh, I'm supposed to be trying to cheer up, not getting depressed over stupid crap in the past. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

I actually get on great with the in-laws already. And I'm sure my parents and them will be fine together. It's mostly cultural/language differences I'm a little worried about--but that's more concern over potential awkwardness than it is over potential fisticuffs, etc.

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Topics to avoid: Tipping, tumble dryers, washing machines and their location

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's mostly cultural/language differences I'm a little worried about


What, New Jersey vs. Sunderland?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

We are such geeks in this department, we've just had a discussion about the merits of SumIf vs. If Then Else vs. Iif ha ha.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

NJ vs. Montenegro

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

IIf as in VB? It SUXXX bcz it doesnt skip the false part if true and vice versa, ie eg if y = 0, you get ERROR from

quot = IIf(y = 0, 0, x/y)

Argh, that annoys me so much!

anatol_merklich, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Bloody YSI is taking forever. what's yr email addres, Ed?

Pashmina, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch. My head hurts.

emil.y, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Norm> SS is usually better and you don't need to sign up.
emil.y >why does your head hurt?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hangover. Went to The Music Library last night, stayed up until 4. Ow.

emil.y, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Lurkers, WTF? Why the hell would anyone read this?

cos I was on the first watercooler thread and have hardly been able to get a word in edgeways since :)

Matt, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

Is that a huge x-post? because I don't remember anyone saying that!


btw thats now 2 whole weeks on the 'cooler we've had no arguments. So everyone be friends!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

an enormous crosspost, it's from about two weeks ago

Matt, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Cheers norm.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Arrgh, big snowstorm hitting northeast us TUH-day, let's hope not fcking up flights.

As if my mom wasn't nervous enough about flying. Double the Xanax!

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

norm dali (at) zerointegrity dot co dot uk

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Got it, Ed. Email fired your way.

Pashmina, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Eh? I have been at HMV buying GIANT SLABS OF PROG!!!

The salesbloke even laughed at me. I bought 2 Hawkwind albums (I *still* cannot find Warrior at the Edge of Time) and 2 Yes albums (I really wanted Yessongs but it was £23, which was more money than just buying Yes and Fragile together) and that Steve Hilliage album that Norm was raving about the other day.

He was sniggering, indie boy. Asked me "do you want to buy one of these DVDs on special offer?" and I gave him this withering look to say "unless one of them is called something like MASTER BLASTER SPACE VIXENS FROM PLANET PROG I have no interest in your puny earth films!" and he kinda laughed. Argh.

Thanks for the Stonehenge stuff, Norm. I hope this Steve Hilliage album is as good as your description of it.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, also, my sisX0r is on the back cover of the new Stooges album! Heh!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

"Warrior on the Edge of Time" has been oop for a while - the CD I have is a different mix to the album, the guitars are quieter, it sounds pretty lame. "Astounding Sounds/Amazing Music" has been oop for over 10yrs, wtf? Maybe after the VdGG and Hillage remasters, they'll do the Charisma Hawkwind titles, I hope so, they're all pretty great.

I hope you like the Hillage album! Sorry if you don't... I tried to copy it for you to listen to, but the protection on it is pretty effective, it just rips a blank .wav when I try.

Pashmina, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if the Stooges album is good? I've been listening to Fun House a lot over the last week - it really is genius that recd.

I keep thinking about that 3CD Yes retrospective. I think it's £6 in FOPP.


Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ed, where did you get it from, then? Off James? Or should I not ask? MAKE ME A BLOODY COPY.

Not that I am encouraging that sort of behaviour or anything, ha-hem.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Kate, you will have a cookie shortly.

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

I like cookies too.

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Once you have this cookie we can focus on the wizzard blew his horn and opkalopka

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

OOH FOPP

i am in spendy mood, yesterday i bought my new bike a new lock and some new pyjamas (the old ones have holes in)

today i want to buy it a computer

and now you mention FOPP, grr, i am working 90 seconds walk from the massive one on tcr. MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST MUST RESIST CAN NOT RESIST

this is why i never have any money. as soon as i get any i spend it all on biketoys and rekkids.

emsk, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard mixed reviews on the Stooges album, but I will reserve judgement for myself. Nearly bought it, but it seemed ... WRONG to buy a Stooges album with all that prog. Like Ron would have reached off the CD cover and punched me in the nose.

Which retrospective? There was that 35 year thing in HMV, but it was more expensive and plus I refuse to buy anything with Owner of a Lonely Heart on it.

So far the Hilliage album has been quite enjoyable, but it's gone a bit jazzwank now. Argh, stop doing that stupid jazz thing with the cymbals and the bass, and get back to the bits where the synth went wibblewibble and the guitar went WHOOOOOOSHYWHOOOSHYWHOOSH all phasey like. I liked that bit better - oh yes, here we go again.

Mmmm, cookies, my colleague bought me a curly wurly to make up for my not being in the department I sit with any more.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

A guy brought in a pair of fancy Trek mountainbikes yesterday - both front changers seized solid, he's used bucketloads of wd40 on them etc etc. I just fixed both of the fuckers in <10minutes, har. Took me longer to get them off the bikes than it took to fix them. I'm good, me! Unfortunately I'm good at something that has almost 0 market value.

Pashmina, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Culinary advice needed :

What pudding will go well with either seafood bouillabaisse (if I can get monkfish) or salmon and asparagus lasagne (fallback, since I will be able to get good salmon).

Is CJ around? She'll know!

I can easily pack the kids off to some other part of the house, so that nice-dinner can be extra nice-nice. But how do I accomodate Tara in Fame Academy?

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

x-post. Yes, the 35 year thing. I LOVE 'Owner of A Lonely Heart'!

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

The later Hillage albums are very fuzak-ish, "Fish Rising" is more yer archetypal Canterbury Prog album, it even has Dave Stewart on it - probably best avoid the other titles, I like them, but I'm waiting till they turn up at a fiver a go. The way Hillage builds up his rhythm guitar parts using an echo machine is always pleasing to my ears.

Pashmina, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I might be able to get a warrior on the edge of time cookie. Who would want one?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Just promise me that you won't send any Yes cookies.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

I know nothing about pudding or fish. :-(

I hated that whole Yes 90215 album - but it has been 20 years since I've heard it. Mainly I hated it because it kept coming out on the album rock radio station charts and pushing Duran Duran's Seven and the Ragged Tiger off.

The echo on this album is fantastic, yes, it's just so lush-sounding. There's a lot of stereo fuckery going on, though I haven't got to that song you say goes "through the music"- I bet it's some kind of crazy stereo thing. That's totally what he's doing on Meditation of the Snake which is on now, slow stereo pan which is just astonishing. I have a pedal that does that, which I use on Hung With Joy, yeah.

Mmmm, cookies have downloaded, yum. That will be next. So much prog to listen to!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Seven And The Ragged Tiger


I got that and The Police Greatest Hits on lp for my xmas the year they were out.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

OK. Calling CJ for emergency pudding advice!!

I'm thinking citrus-y, but what? Also, that could be wrong.

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I had stopped liking the Police by then, but I will still fairly in the grip of my Duran obsession.

Sorry, that Meditation of the Snake thing may just be the best thing I've heard in ages. It's just blown every wibbling spacerock album of the past five years away. Wow. It sounds like... a snake. A slippery snake. Emsk, you might like this maybe.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

NJ vs. Montenegro


Minor details.

New computers are always good things.

I found it easy to resist Fopp this time because of the exchange rate. Aside from getting the Relaxed Muscle album of course.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

OK, he just sang about salmon swimming up the stream of time from Atlantis - this is the best concept album about fish ever. OK, only, but still.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

i think i might! what album is it? i got trapped in the yes field at glastonbury for about an hour a couple of years ago when they were playing some ridiculous like 4 and a half hour set.

emsk, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

For those with infants and toddlers or mums/dads to be (or Mark Grout because he will want to look anyway)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot dispense emergency pudding advice without knowing the rest of the menu!

C J, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Either seafood bouillabaisse (if I can get monkfish) or salmon and asparagus lasagne (fallback, since I will be able to get good salmon).

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

It is called Fish Rising. It is a prog concept album about... fish. Salmon to be specific, I think. It's NUTS. In the best possible way, with this crazy phasy guitar going everywhere, all over your headphones. Ooh, there's the coolest picture ever on the inside liner notes of a chick (?) playing keyboards with these massive earphones on and the keyboard reflected in her goggles so that the keys look like her eyelashes. Awesome!

I think he was in Gong, not Yes, though. Pash would know? If Gong sound anything like them, maybe it's time to get over my "bleurgh, this is music for hippies!" prejudice.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

He was

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

kate admit it. you are a hippie

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm presuming you don't have much time to cook ....... how about a home-made rice pudding made with a good dollop of thick cream stirred through it and a little freshly grated nutmeg (or buy a good quality ready-made one, and tart it up a bit), and serve it chilled and topped with chunks of kiwi fruit, peach, mango, pineapple etc which have been threaded onto small skewers and marinaded for an hour or so in Malibu.

C J, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

(ed are you checking your email? did you get that one from j just now?)

emsk, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)


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